Players To Trade For

[Slattery_20]

? That would be longer than War and Peace with this bloke!

Can play but has lost all pace, be interesting to see how a decent pre season changes his body shape.

I don't get this? He's played (comfortably) the best footy of his career, this year. His kicking's improved, he's taking marks in more dangerous areas, and his hands are (still) very good.
He moves fine, for a 197-198cm bloke.
Might've lost a bit compared to his U18 days, but he's now got the size to hold position now - not sure whether he's feeling any ill effects of his injuries or actually just filling out his frame as you'd expect any 20-22yo tall to do.
You wouldn't recruit a bloke that big as a runner.

 

[Mr Magic]

Mentioned this on another thread, anyone think Ben Warren is worth a look for a rookie spot next year if delisted by Kangaroos?

How old is he ? might be not against the concept

 

[Tigers_1980]

How old is he ? might be not against the concept

23.
Seen him VFL games, looks a class above. Knows where the big sticks, kicked multiple bags this year at Werribee, reasonable user of the footy and strong overhead for his size.
Just gives us another medium forward option to call upon and could potentially make the most of Nahas' current trade value.

On another point I know Browne has been mentioned as getting a rookie spot, but would it also be worth looking at Majak Daw?

 

[Waltz17]

Knights is 100% ours knocked back more money from Melbourne to come and play with Maric again, he can't sign until October 1 at the earliest, Chaplin was about 80-90% done last I heard. Russell was a rumour started by posters on another board and it took off.

Looks like you don't know as much as you claim.

I'm not buying into his claims that "we have a big trade coming up" coz literally anyone could say that, and no matter what trade ends up happening could say "I told you so"

BUT what you said pretty much agrees with what he said? So 90-100% and 80% doesn't look promising to you? And you both suggest nothing is happening with Russell...

 

[Tigers_1980]

So you'd take Warren but not Armitage?
Brilliant.

I'm talking about rookie spot, not primary list.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Can we please get back to talking about trades that will not require us to relocate to Narnia to happen?


Any updates on the chatter re:

- Nahas
- Post
- McGuane (long hope)
- Graham (even longer hope)

 

[Tigers_1980]

Well I raised this scenario...
23.
Seen him VFL games, looks a class above. Knows where the big sticks, kicked multiple bags this year at Werribee, reasonable user of the footy and strong overhead for his size.
Just gives us another medium forward option to call upon and could potentially make the most of Nahas' current trade value.

On another point I know Browne has been mentioned as getting a rookie spot, but would it also be worth looking at Majak Daw?

Thoughts?

 

[Mr Magic]

Well I raised this scenario...
23.
Seen him VFL games, looks a class above. Knows where the big sticks, kicked multiple bags this year at Werribee, reasonable user of the footy and strong overhead for his size.
Just gives us another medium forward option to call upon and could potentially make the most of Nahas' current trade value.

On another point I know Browne has been mentioned as getting a rookie spot, but would it also be worth looking at Majak Daw?

Thoughts?

i think I seen a little of Warren shown a bit , not an expert but at value you may be on to something.

Daws, don't know has been a bit of controversy but what do i know-nothing, not against it, potential upside possible value pickup as well. like it in theory

 

[Varicho]

I reckon Armitage would be a great edition to our midfield... He's got great skills and is a goal kicker. However, I believe this is all academic - because there is NO way the Saints will let him go...

They'll ditch high paid list cloggers like Gram before letting him go.

 

[FootyIcon4]

With Giles we would have to give up too much for a backup ruckman unless he is a good CHF, has anyone seen him play this role?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

You're not the only one... He's either a visionary, or a complete loony. But essentially what he's talking about (I think) is a loan/transfer system like used in soccer. I.e. Richmond aren't ready to challenge for a few years, and the Blues may be if they could bolster their defence. So, we "loan" Rance to the Blues for a year or two for them to have a crack at a flag, after which he returns to the Tigers. It's crazy in terms of the AFL just not working like that - it's run completely differently to say the EPL, but the theory behind it does make some sense (assuming we'd be happy to help Carlton win a flag... we wouldn't!)

It also ignores the issue that transfer contracts actually mandate the player be returned. We cannot do that in our contracts, so we would be relying on the integrity and honesty of Carlton to reverse the trade. Anyone see something wrong with this concept?

 

[TigerTime88]

Lol this thread is way off topic...

 

[NZ_Tiger]

I don't get this? He's played (comfortably) the best footy of his career, this year. His kicking's improved, he's taking marks in more dangerous areas, and his hands are (still) very good.
He moves fine, for a 197-198cm bloke.
Might've lost a bit compared to his U18 days, but he's now got the size to hold position now - not sure whether he's feeling any ill effects of his injuries or actually just filling out his frame as you'd expect any 20-22yo tall to do.
You wouldn't recruit a bloke that big as a runner.

You got all that from a two line post? Think I underestimated Essendon supporters.

I was referring to a post regarding his medical report, which we can all agree would make for a long evenings reading. I also never stated I wouldn't trade for him, if the price was right you'd be mad not to, but most of the reason would be his former draft position. "While comfortably his best year of footy" it was still mediocre by league standards, and I think even the Bombers would have a hard time asking for anything meaningful with a straight face, especially in light of the mighty ONE year deal you've offered.

The only reason you wouldn't chance your arm is the cost of medical insurance on the guy, could outweigh his salary.

 

[_RT_]

Ok I've gone through an cleaned up a good 40 posts worth of crap. Anymore crap and next step is infractions.

 

[Slattery_20]

You got all that from a two line post? Think I underestimated Essendon supporters.

You said he was moving slower than he prviously had.
I don't really know what point of comparison you drew that from, since his form's been OK this year and he's had no form to speak of, in previous years
As you say - massive risk, but a fairly big reward. This is nothing new.


Very, very, very much doubt we're only offering one year. Big grain of salt, there; wouldn't assume everything we read this time of year is correct.

 

[Kyusss]

I really hope we have asked Andy Otten what he wants to do

 

[GarnerSmash]

Mentioned this on another thread, anyone think Ben Warren is worth a look for a rookie spot next year if delisted by Kangaroos?

The fella works his ring off as a leading third tall type. Strong but a touch short tbh and loses his feet a bit too much. Not much flexibility to his game either. Would be great to see him get a crack on another list as he is good at what he does well.

 

[northeast tiger]

You said he was moving slower than he prviously had.
I don't really know what point of comparison you drew that from, since his form's been OK this year and he's had no form to speak of, in previous years
As you say - massive risk, but a fairly big reward. This is nothing new.


Very, very, very much doubt we're only offering one year. Big grain of salt, there; wouldn't assume everything we read this time of year is correct.

Please read the following:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/147474/default.aspx

I personally would be disappointed if we traded for Gumbleton, unless it was a straight swap for either Post or McGuane, although there is zero chance of Essendon agreeing to that. Gumby has had major injury concerns and has shown little in the games I have seen him play. He would however, be an upgrade on Post or McGuane IMO.

 

[Tigerbob]

We should be obtaining Chaplin and Knights. Almost there with both. I think Knights is done.

We have been linked to Russell, who I would be keen for. In my opinion he would be a guy that could be that run with player or do jobs on guys. He is that type that needs a specific role and job to do. I think he is high quality and can still get to that level.

What else is needed?

 

[SumTingWong]

Please read the following:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/147474/default.aspx

I personally would be disappointed if we traded for Gumbleton, unless it was a straight swap for either Post or McGuane, although there is zero chance of Essendon agreeing to that. Gumby has had major injury concerns and has shown little in the games I have seen him play. He would however, be an upgrade on Post or McGuane IMO.

Doesn't mention us at all so why the concern?

 

[JR82]

i'd do whatever it takes to get Giles from GWS! he could play back up ruck/fwd role and would be in his prime when Mullet end up hanging up the boots, he's a star of the future IMO so we should at least have a decent shot at getting him, that way Vickery can play 2nd fwd role similar to Roughead of hawthorn.
Plus if (i hope like helll it don't happen) Mullet gets injured or chops off the hair (which is rumoured) then Giles is a ready to go replacement, as it stands if we lose Maric we are royally screwed IMHO

 

[nikolasmia]

We should be obtaining Chaplin and Knights. Almost there with both. I think Knights is done.

We have been linked to Russell, who I would be keen for. In my opinion he would be a guy that could be that run with player or do jobs on guys. He is that type that needs a specific role and job to do. I think he is high quality and can still get to that level.

What else is needed?

two genuine midfielders 22-29 yr old big strong mature bodied midfielders, state league players or moloney types to play a role and keep duds like white and jackson out of the team

 

[SnowRoo]

Here's one - detailed statistical analysis went into its production! Had to blow the dust off my uni maths books...

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Looked for the chances of Rance being traded, legend said it was in black. I see 100% written in black, wow

 

[Tigerbob]

two genuine midfielders 22-29 yr old big strong mature bodied midfielders, state league players or moloney types to play a role and keep duds like white and jackson out of the team

I think we need extra midfield depth also. Inside ball winners to take the pressure off Cotchin and Tuck and your right, need much better quality than Jackson in there just cause he is a big body. The talk of Mitch Banner is good, so too is the talk of Vlastuin although I do not believe he is the best player at Pick 9, he may be just what we need.

I think the bigger need is pace and outside class. I look through our team and I see very little pace there. Deledio and White. We need someone of class who will come in and make an impact. You only get them early in the draft.

The noise though is Vlastuin. That is who we want from a lot of sources. Whilst it wouldnt be my choice, it certainly isn't a bad choice and as you have said, we need more inside ball winners, and he is that.

 

[Damo80]

I think the bigger need is pace and outside class. I look through our team and I see very little pace there. Deledio and White. We need someone of class who will come in and make an impact. You only get them early in the draft.

I'd imagine if we go a guy like Vlastuin with pick 9, we will pick up one or two of those pacy, but perhaps less highly credentialed mids with later picks. Guys like Macrae (arguably no less highly credentialled than Vlastuin, but maybe an outside chance of being there at pick 29 all the same), Nathan Wright, Matthew Haynes, Coleman-Broome and Shane Nelson, not that I'm an expert!

We need Foley on the park for the bulk of the season too! Haven't seen a lot of him, but Nelson seems to be very much in the Foley mould... maybe why I'm so keen for us to pick him up with a later pick.