USA Policy positions of Donald Trump; let's see how many he achieves

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BigTacoBandit said:
Is he effectively president now???

An unelected immigrant is now dictating
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It seems that way, i just want Elon to take credit for something that happens with in government that is considered a positive, then we will see real fireworks, Trump does not like anyone else taking credit for things that go well.
 
Saint said:
Biden has no reason not to hold-out on anything other than something pro-Democrat, or at least pro-people.

If he forces a shut-down after weeks of Republican in-fighting, it won't be him who looks like he can't run anything.

If Musk doesn't want any bills passed, can't see why Biden wouldn't indulge GOP stupidity.

It's always funny that when the side-shows are swept aside, when it comes to governing, these idiots have no idea what they're doing.
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start amassing the vid clips of Reps stating clearly "shut it down".
 
DickieKnee said:
Reckon Musk will want a different title than president. Supreme Leader or something like that.
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Needs at least a few X’s in there as well as something else ridiculous, maybe a dog whistle as well.

Xxx S3xy Supreme Leader 88 xxx

Would be right up his alley.
 

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Jbudds04v2 said:
um. US government pays US weapons manufacturer a lot of money, lots of jobs, lots of IP. Those weapons are provided to Ukraine. Lots of money stays in US, no money goes to Ukraine.
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In most cases, the weapons are obsolete, mothballed, or replaced. The money spent replacing them is money that was going to be spent regardless of whether there was a war or not. Arms manufacturers get a relative pittance refurnishing Sep 1 M1A1 tanks, but the US is not buying more tanks because some old refurbished junk went to Ukraine. I mean look at Australia, we sent M1A1s to Ukraine, and replaced them with M1A2s, but we already committed to the M1A2s, they were being bought regardless, and decades old used M1A1s just arent worth that much. Arms manufacturers made didly squat.

People are vastly overestimating how much money arms manufacturers are making from this war, relative to how much this war is costing the global economy.

All the bombs and missiles and shells the West sends Ukraine comes from the back of the shelf, the old stuff, and this stuff has a use by date. Send it to Ukraine, and buy a replacement, or throw it out and buy a replacement. The arms manufacturer doesn't really care either way. Old F16s, and the US isnt buying more fighters because of it. Old Javelins, which have an expiry date, and get used in training, or sent back for disassembly. Old howitzers.

One of the problems the West had, was arms manufacturers were unwilling to spend money on new factories and new production lines to rapidly ramp up production, because they saw higher demand due to the Ukraine war as a small blip in demand, which wasn't enough to justify spending money to increase production capacity. However, if this was was the manna from heaven golden ticket for arms manufacturers people seem to assume, they would have been falling over themselves to ramp up production to grab a bigger share of that enormous lucrative pie.
 
Aussie in exile said:
And his base will believe him. They are that dumb.
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It's not even stupidity in some cases. Its cult behavior.

If he says it's true it's true. If he says the opposite then that becomes true.
Any historical context or evidence is discarded to accommodate the new truth.

Hasn't there already been one Senator who said something along the lines of- if Trump says tariffs work then they work because everything he says is true?
 
jatz14 said:
In most cases, the weapons are obsolete, mothballed, or replaced. The money spent replacing them is money that was going to be spent regardless of whether there was a war or not. Arms manufacturers get a relative pittance refurnishing Sep 1 M1A1 tanks, but the US is not buying more tanks because some old refurbished junk went to Ukraine. I mean look at Australia, we sent M1A1s to Ukraine, and replaced them with M1A2s, but we already committed to the M1A2s, they were being bought regardless, and decades old used M1A1s just arent worth that much. Arms manufacturers made didly squat.

People are vastly overestimating how much money arms manufacturers are making from this war, relative to how much this war is costing the global economy.

All the bombs and missiles and shells the West sends Ukraine comes from the back of the shelf, the old stuff, and this stuff has a use by date. Send it to Ukraine, and buy a replacement, or throw it out and buy a replacement. The arms manufacturer doesn't really care either way. Old F16s, and the US isnt buying more fighters because of it. Old Javelins, which have an expiry date, and get used in training, or sent back for disassembly. Old howitzers.

One of the problems the West had, was arms manufacturers were unwilling to spend money on new factories and new production lines to rapidly ramp up production, because they saw higher demand due to the Ukraine war as a small blip in demand, which wasn't enough to justify spending money to increase production capacity. However, if this was was the manna from heaven golden ticket for arms manufacturers people seem to assume, they would have been falling over themselves to ramp up production to grab a bigger share of that enormous lucrative pie.
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The US isn't running down its capabilities. The old weapons stock gets replenished with new weapons.

US weapons production is going gangbusters.

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jatz14 said:
In most cases, the weapons are obsolete, mothballed, or replaced. The money spent replacing them is money that was going to be spent regardless of whether there was a war or not. Arms manufacturers get a relative pittance refurnishing Sep 1 M1A1 tanks, but the US is not buying more tanks because some old refurbished junk went to Ukraine. I mean look at Australia, we sent M1A1s to Ukraine, and replaced them with M1A2s, but we already committed to the M1A2s, they were being bought regardless, and decades old used M1A1s just arent worth that much. Arms manufacturers made didly squat.

People are vastly overestimating how much money arms manufacturers are making from this war, relative to how much this war is costing the global economy.

All the bombs and missiles and shells the West sends Ukraine comes from the back of the shelf, the old stuff, and this stuff has a use by date. Send it to Ukraine, and buy a replacement, or throw it out and buy a replacement. The arms manufacturer doesn't really care either way. Old F16s, and the US isnt buying more fighters because of it. Old Javelins, which have an expiry date, and get used in training, or sent back for disassembly. Old howitzers.

One of the problems the West had, was arms manufacturers were unwilling to spend money on new factories and new production lines to rapidly ramp up production, because they saw higher demand due to the Ukraine war as a small blip in demand, which wasn't enough to justify spending money to increase production capacity. However, if this was was the manna from heaven golden ticket for arms manufacturers people seem to assume, they would have been falling over themselves to ramp up production to grab a bigger share of that enormous lucrative pie.
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With all due respect m8 this post is basically what I'd get I asked chatgpt to write me 4 paragraphs of largely false MIC taking points.

I'm not against supporting Ukraine btw, but let's not kid ourselves. The propaganda being distributed about this conflict somehow not being of huge financial benefit to arms manufacturers and other interests is laughable.


www.theguardian.com

Arms maker BAE Systems makes record profit amid Ukraine and Israel-Gaza wars

FTSE 100 company says global instability is making government focus on defence spending
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
FireKrakouer said:
With all due respect m8 this post is basically what I'd get I asked chatgpt to write me 4 paragraphs of largely false MIC taking points.

I'm not against supporting Ukraine btw, but let's not kid ourselves. The propaganda being distributed about this conflict somehow not being of huge financial benefit to arms manufacturers and other interests is laughable.


www.theguardian.com

Arms maker BAE Systems makes record profit amid Ukraine and Israel-Gaza wars

FTSE 100 company says global instability is making government focus on defence spending
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Dude, I'm not saying they aren't making money, even record money, but to get from there.

But the global defence industry market value is about 800 billion dollars, value, not profitability.
The car industry is about 3.5 trillion.

The year started, the combined loss of economic output from Russia and Ukraine is estimated to be more than the total value of the global defence market. Not rise in the defence industry because of the war, but the TOTAL value.

I mean its nice you talk about propaganda, because large sections of alt media sources love the narrative that fat pig multi trillionaire arms dealers buy and sell politicians to create wars that drive their immense profits. You seem to buy into this hook line and sinker.

But a quick reality check, the defence industry, despite what you seem to believe, isnt a big industry compared to others.
The war, while profitable, isn't driving profits that even go close to comparing to the economic damage and costs in other areas.

If corporations can buy and sell politicians to affect wars to address their bottom line, then bigger and far more profitable industries than arms manufacturers would have had this whole thing shut down ages ago.
 

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