Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 16

[Steve Dore]

Just going back to this, in my experience it's almost impossible for professional sportspeople to get income insurance and they would have to rely on these Group type policies to obtain cover. You'd also think that these Group policies would either have exclusions for these types of concussion related injuries or massive premium increases.

More broadly, Disability insurance premiums are exploding mainly based on the enormous increase on people claiming for mental health reasons.

The policy exclusions would make it impossible for the person to actually play their sport. It's like AFL footballers expected to be able to make claims against Workcover. Their total disregard for basic OH&S excludes them from any claim.

Rule 1 - There should be no running in the workplace
Rule 2 - An employee should always have at least one foot in contact with the ground unless wearing an approved safety harness
Rule 3 - Any employee who is required to be more than 1 metre above the ground must have a current Working At Heights certification

 

[SilenceOz]

I'm sad about Pittard, can we take him back please?

 

[JimmyBC]

I'm sad about Pittard, can we take him back please?

No

 

[jac147]

A bit of trade talk. Geelong after a Dangerflag and Ollie will stay at Port ( as he should, he’s contracted)

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[gbear]

Happy Wooden spoon day all. In less than 9 hours the crows will be receiving their first spoon

 

[Butters and Pepper]

The Pride of South Australia
The Admiration of the Nation

Respected by their foes.

 

[Smithy7]

Respected by their foes.

crap ...

 

[John the Butcher]

Hope Taylah has a spud of a game and doesn't overtake Modra

 

[drcollossimo]

Is there any potential opponent we can have in the finals that doesn't worry you?

He’s not alone we’ve never finished in the top ever in the Hinkley era

our losses to the Dank cats and Brions worries me

 

[Grave Danger]

The St Kilda fairytale worries me a bit.

Knock knock

Who's there?

Owen

Owen who?

Oh when the Saints, Go marching in...

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

the crows song really does say a lot about their mentality - its all about being worried about what other people think and say about them

Caring about the opinions outside of the club:
- Pride of south australia
- respected by our foes
- our determination shows
- admiration of the nation

Defining themselves by others:
- Stronger
- Faster

Things they can control:
- Mighty
- Courageous
- Give our best from coast to coast
- The flag will be our goal
- Skill and nerve
- Commitment

Meanwhile, Power To Win...

Caring about the opinions outside of the club:
- None

Defining ourselves by others:
- None

Things we can control:
- power to win
- power to rule
- Port Adelaide aggression
- true Port Adelaide tradition
- Never stop stop stop
- never give in

 

[Interstater]

There's only one team I'm worried about and that's Port, and in particular our stubbornness with respect to matching up on the oppositions talls.

When that gets rolled out as the Lesson we learnt from the finals I'll be furious.

Been asking all year for Ladhams to spend some time down back to be ready to play against them, and in particular against Geelong, Brisbane and West Coast.
Too late to learn that role now.

As spectators I think its now time to roll the dice, enjoy the show and actually be grateful that we have at least two more games after this one.

 

[70sDinosaur]

the crows song really does say a lot about their mentality - its all about being worried about what other people think and say about them

Caring about the opinions outside of the club:
- Pride of south australia
- respected by our foes
- our determination shows
- admiration of the nation

Defining themselves by others:
- Stronger
- Faster

Things they can control:
- Mighty
- Courageous
- Give our best from coast to coast
- The flag will be our goal
- Skill and nerve
- Commitment

Meanwhile, Power To Win...

Caring about the opinions outside of the club:
- None

Defining ourselves by others:
- None

Things we can control:
- power to win
- power to rule
- Port Adelaide aggression
- true Port Adelaide tradition
- Never stop stop stop
- never give in

I guess you can't expect much from something penned by a Woodville man, whose previous musical experience was with the woody woodpecker song.

 

[TeeKray]

Happy Wooden spoon day all. In less than 9 hours the crows will be receiving their first spoon

And we'll officially be the only club without a VFL/AFL wooden spoon.

 

[Interstater]

And we'll officially be the only club without a VFL/AFL wooden spoon.

As good as that sounds the term VFL/AFL still makes me want to ventilate some gyprock.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I'm sad about Pittard

I agree.

can we take him back please?

No.

Love him as a bloke but don't miss him as an AFL footballer. At the end of the day we're a professional football club, not a social club.

 

[Contested Marx]

If he wins us a flag give him ten years for all I care.

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I'm ok with this if you mean ten years total

 

[OneGreatClub]

Respected by their foes.

That line irks me big time. What a load of cosdwallop.

 

[240volt]

I'm ok with this if you mean ten years total

Might be a bit longer than that, dogs still have Luke Beerfridge four years on from there flag and I would rather Ken than him.

 

[Interstater]

I'm sad about Pittard, can we take him back please?

Would happily have him back in the maggies next year.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Weather forecast downgraded from storms and torrential rain to a shower or two. Not our home game then.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

GWS should have let Choco take over from Sheedy.

I'm glad they didn't though, otherwise we would have ended up with Cameron.

Choco earlier this year talked on Dwayne's show about GWS not being prepared to pay him properly, as he was basically coaching the team and Sheedy doing the PR, so he walked out as they kept delaying giving him the job and paying him full amount for all the work he was doing.

 

[240volt]

Choco earlier this year talked on Dwayne's show about GWS not being prepared to pay him properly, as he was basically coaching the team and Sheedy doing the PR, so he walked out as they kept delaying giving him the job and paying him full amount for all the work he was doing.

So there cheap bastards that explains why they still have Cameron.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Interviewing an umpire that's retiring... who gives a flying rats ass honestly? jeezus maybe Rhonda in the snack bar is retiring as well.

Carn this is a totally unfair comparison...


Rhonda is competent.

 

[MrMeaner]

At the pub now after 4 weeks sobriety but will try to address this tomorrow. Insurance companies, the AFL will quaking in their boots by this decision.

I often act for life insurers in litigated TPD claims and I don't know they will.

I just saw your comment about the definitions. I agree that it will depend on that. I wrote the following part before seeing you had said essentially the same thing. Without looking at the terms in the policy covering Smith, it is possible that he purchased cover under an 'own occupation' rather than an 'any occupation' TPD definition. If that's the case, it is easier to prove. In his case, he would only have had to prove that his disability meant he couldn't work as a plumber. Under an 'any occupation' definition, he would have had to prove that his disability made him unlikely to be employed in any occupation for which he was suited by education, training or experience.

As for the AFL, it is going to be more difficult for players as they will have to prove, not only the disability but also that it was caused by the concussions. Smith didn't have to do that in his TPD claim as the cause of the disability is not usually relevant (it gets mentioned in reports but it is only necessary to prove the disability not its cause). Obviously, it's probable that someone at some time will bring a claim against the AFL for concussion-related injuries but Smith's payout here hasn't changed that risk.

The other thing to remember, is that this was not litigated. MLC approved the claim after reviewing the evidence of Smith's disability. I don't know that there has been any studies into similar disablement amongst past AFL players but I don't expect there would be too many completely rendered unable to work after their careers.