Mega Thread Port Forum General AFL Thread Part 21

[chiwigi]

With the current focus on concussions and the long term effects of multiple concussions surely the AFL should ban this type of event.

AFL should ban pro boxing?

What? How?

 

[simba_]

the AFL CEO stands behind a fake bar on a shit TV show to address this serious issue

 

[TeeKray]

Near capacity crowd said Smirking Smitho.

There's a lot of issues at play with crowds and it's a league wide thing not club specific.

Obviously there's covid and the flow on effect of covid with people realising how easy and accessible watching games on TV can be.

But another important factor that none of the media elite would ever mention or understand is cost of living pressures. Rent, fuel, groceries and the cost of many other things are rising rapidly. Mortgage repayments will soon. There's a lot of uncertainty and people are being careful about spending money. This issue won't resolve any time soon.

 

[Steve Dore]

AFL should ban pro boxing?

What? How?

Checks thread topic which while somewhat bizarre translates to General AFL Discussion

 

[chiwigi]

Checks thread topic which while somewhat bizarre translates to General AFL Discussion

Surely that's covered by the ex AFL player and pundit being involved....too general?

 

[HugeJohnson]

The AFL should just force players to wear helmets. I know they can't prevent every injury but surely every little bit of protection helps right?

Look to cricket as an example of how far protection has come for players

 

[Ford Fairlane]

As big and mean as Barry Hall is, 46 is absolutely ancient in combat sports.

He’d still crush 99% of the population who might be foolish enough to run afoul of him in a toxic masculinity-themed tavern, but if he values his noggin he should give the squared circle away.

I know this is the most unique of stories, but I present George Foreman who at 45 won the world heavyweight title for a second time. And introduced the George Foreman grill to the world.

Foreman was the most glowering sullen formidable heavyweight wrecking machine the world had seen since Rocky Marciano as he demolished Joe Frazier and Ken Norton inside two rounds and it took a young Mike Tyson to present the same aura of destruction. And then he lost the Rumble in the Jungle in 1974 to the incomparable Ali and seemed to be assigned a footnote in boxing history.

Twenty years later he returns as a rather solidly built 45 year old happy smiling cheerful born again ordained Christian minister and wins the world title knocking out 26 year old Michael Moorer.

 

[chiwigi]

I know this is the most unique of stories, but I present George Foreman who at 45 won the world heavyweight title for a second time. And introduced the George Foreman grill to the world.

Foreman was the most glowering formidable heavyweight wrecking machine the world had seen since Rocky Marciano as he demolished Joe Frazier and Ken Norton inside two rounds and it took a young Mike Tyson to present the same aura of destruction. And then he lost the Rumble in the Jungle in 1974 to the incomparable Ali and seemed to be assigned a footnote in boxing history.

Twenty years later he returns as a rather solidly built 45 year old happy smiling cheerful born again ordained Christian minister and wins the world title knocking out 26 year old Michael Moorer.

And age isn't really an issue in the first round!!

 

[Ford Fairlane]

And age isn't really and issue in the first round!!

I've seen only a few seconds of snippets of the fight, but it seemed like Barry decided very early on that this wasn't the best idea he had ever had.

Imagine paying to see it either live or on Stan.

 

[TeeKray]

I know this is the most unique of stories, but I present George Foreman who at 45 won the world heavyweight title for a second time. And introduced the George Foreman grill to the world.

Foreman was the most glowering sullen formidable heavyweight wrecking machine the world had seen since Rocky Marciano as he demolished Joe Frazier and Ken Norton inside two rounds and it took a young Mike Tyson to present the same aura of destruction. And then he lost the Rumble in the Jungle in 1974 to the incomparable Ali and seemed to be assigned a footnote in boxing history.

Twenty years later he returns as a rather solidly built 45 year old happy smiling cheerful born again ordained Christian minister and wins the world title knocking out 26 year old Michael Moorer.

Take this to the boxing forum.

 

[Steve Dore]

Surely that's covered by the ex AFL player and pundit being involved....too general?

I've posted before that we should have a separate thread for what former AFL players are up to that is not related to the AFL. I find "general" too broad at times but that's probably just because I'm a pedant.

 

[chiwigi]

I've posted before that we should have a separate thread for what former AFL players are up to that is not related to the AFL. I find "general" too broad at times but that's probably just because I'm a pedant.

I agree actually, there's only one thing more boring than footballers lives and that's ex footballers lives.

 

[malcheski]

There's a lot of issues at play with crowds and it's a league wide thing not club specific.

Obviously there's covid and the flow on effect of covid with people realising how easy and accessible watching games on TV can be.

But another important factor that none of the media elite would ever mention or understand is cost of living pressures. Rent, fuel, groceries and the cost of many other things are rising rapidly. Mortgage repayments will soon. There's a lot of uncertainty and people are being careful about spending money. This issue won't resolve any time soon.

^ There's that. Plus the product is shit.

Fancy gaming the schedule to "maximise" crowd numbers and gifting prime time slots to Vic teams only for it to bite you in the keister. The AFL conveniently forgetting half the crowds per round come from games outside of Victoria and shoehorning them into Sunday arvo/twilight slots against travelling sides isn't conducive to large crowds and it blows up in their face. Glorious.

 

[tribey]

The AFL should just force players to wear helmets. I know they can't prevent every injury but surely every little bit of protection helps right?

Look to cricket as an example of how far protection has come for players

NHL are finding that similar to Aussie Rules, it’s less head contact and more the sudden stop and resultant whiplash of the brain inside the skull that occurs with impacts.

Mandated helmets would offer superficial protection, but the concussions themselves wouldn’t really reduce at all.

There’s also evidence from the NFL that suggests helmets give players a false sense of safety and makes them more reckless, so it’s a tough one.

 

[HugeJohnson]

NHL are finding that similar to Aussie Rules, it’s less head contact and more the sudden stop and resultant whiplash of the brain inside the skull that occurs with impacts.

Mandated helmets would offer superficial protection, but the concussions themselves wouldn’t really reduce at all.

There’s also evidence from the NFL that suggests helmets give players a false sense of safety and makes them more reckless, so it’s a tough one.

Well how about helmets with airbags installed?

 

[HugeJohnson]

Or how about instead of tackling, the player has to tag the opponent or rip off a ribbon or something attached to him, then they stop and have an arm wrestle to decide who keeps the ball?

 

[HugeJohnson]

How about players carry trolley poles and just whack someone in the shins until they give up the ball?

 

[edgie]

Baz looked like he had never boxed before. Spose he is 44 years old.

Seems to be struggling for a gig once he got fired, doing reality tv and getting his brains turned to scrambled egg. He won't get any more fights you'd think on that display.

He's in to Holden cars he should team up with Dixon.

Then maybe he can teach Dixon some stuff about footy as well.

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[Waspy79]

It's been a long time since you've been able to contest a football (on the ground or in the air) without any repercussions if you get it wrong and make illegal contact with an opponent. The false argument that all is forgiven because he was competing for the ball (which he actually wasn't, but let's just accept that lie) is absurd and it's outrageous that the tribunal bought it.

I'm pretty sure that is incorrect because the tribunal rightly determined that Rioli had no reasonable alternative but to take the action he did. Whilst a free kick was justified due to Rioli making an error in judgement, not every instance of illegal contact on the football field is reportable/suspendable - that is a false argument.

 

[Steve Dore]

Helmets are compulsory in professional cycling.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Well that's the thing, he actually didn't. He's extremely lucky he didn't, if he'd been a couple of inches higher he'd have half-killed Rowell and he'd probably be looking at 8 weeks, but he hit him in the body, not the head.

No Rioli made contact with Rowell's head. And the Tribunal found that he did, it just didn't matter because they ruled he made high contact while legitimately attempting a mark, not through an action considered rough conduct.

 

[Tibbs]

the AFL CEO stands behind a fake bar on a shit TV show to address this serious issue

I think it is a good TV show.

 

[Buget]

Helmets are compulsory in professional cycling.

Yes they are…. Having come off a bike (a couple of times)…

The helmet saved significant injuries, but didn’t stop the concussion.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Or how about instead of tackling, the player has to tag the opponent or rip off a ribbon or something attached to him, then they stop and have an arm wrestle to decide who keeps the ball?

Would open the door for Nathan Lonie making a comeback that would put George Foreman's to shame.

Except for the arm wrestling part.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

The Daniher contract thread on the main board is worth a read just for the pisstaking of the offended Crows fans.