Mega Thread Port Forum General AFL Thread Part 27

[gbear]

Am I the only one uncomfortable taking the P155 out of the crows the night before we play Collingwood in Melbourne???

Nah because it inevitable that we will lose to Collingwood cause they are scary.

 

[Pt Augusta Power]

Collin wood at the mcg is scary. Not much scarier than that. Only thing scarier would be a final in Brisbane against Brisbane. That’s scariest. But then again, all finals are technically scary.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

My preferred ending would have been : htb paid and the kick just sneaks in but is paid a point.

I enjoyed that movie so much last time.

This would have been great but I think I marginally prefer...

1 second to go

Umpire whistle...

"Free kick...

Essendon! In the back"

 

[TazD]

How petulant are the Adelaide lol. Essendon belted them off the park and yet due to Essendons inaccuracy Adelaide somehow feel cheated. Make it make sense.

 

[Sewer de Lance]

My reaction towards the umpire moments after the Draper call..

 

[240volt]

It’s not unusual in a derby though, cousins on the front bar spoke about how freo always got themselves up for the derby and beat them twice in their premiership year. So they were worried about coming up against them in finals. We should’ve beaten the crows twice in 1997, a last quarter fade out and Peter *ing Vardy meant we turned a 4 goal lead at 3/4 time into a 7 point loss.

Plenty of times the underdog gets up for a derby. And their game style does seem to worry us. But then it can’t beat Essendon. They have lost their last 7 against Essendon and we’ve won our last 8. Different teams match up better against different teams.


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It’s a fact there are teams that play well against one other side no matter how both sides stand on the ladder.
It’s a strange Phenomena you will find worldwide in all sports.
Crows had a good year last year with us but I don’t go along with the thought it will continue this year.
The over rating of them on our board is massively more than on the crows board.

 

[Festerz]

Premiership Pie on GF glory, overcoming adversity, his best role

Billy Frampton's trade to Collingwood went all but unnoticed at the time, but he has now become an important part of the puzzle

t.co

BILLY Frampton is a premiership player now, but he hasn't forgotten what life was like on the fringe.

He spent more time playing at Alberton, Glenelg Oval and The Parade than at the Adelaide Oval during his time at Adelaide and Port Adelaide. It was the making of him.

'Frampton is ranked No.2 in the AFL behind Darcy Moore

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Darcy Moore

Age

29

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

for average spoils (nine) in 2024, No.5 for intercept marks (four), No.6 for intercept possessions (nine) and No.7 for key defenders, according to Champion Data's player ratings points. '

 

[StrappingTape]

But if we beat Collingwood, we still haven’t beaten a good team! Have I got it right?

But it is a new season and they are shit this year so far. Struggling to get past the world beaters in Hawthorn last round and abysmal most weeks before that showing no reason to think this week will be different yet.

Premiership Pie on GF glory, overcoming adversity, his best role

Billy Frampton's trade to Collingwood went all but unnoticed at the time, but he has now become an important part of the puzzle

t.co

BILLY Frampton is a premiership player now, but he hasn't forgotten what life was like on the fringe.

He spent more time playing at Alberton, Glenelg Oval and The Parade than at the Adelaide Oval during his time at Adelaide and Port Adelaide. It was the making of him.

'Frampton is ranked No.2 in the AFL behind Darcy Moore for average spoils (nine) in 2024, No.5 for intercept marks (four), No.6 for intercept possessions (nine) and No.7 for key defenders, according to Champion Data's player ratings points. '

He has played 3 games.. they do look better with him in though but not hard to move the stat mountain on that small subset.

 

[HinkleysHeroes]

Just watch the highlights from the Crows game.

100% that was a flop by Draper. How that wasn’t paid, with the umpire right there is a mystery.

Is this their “goal line review” moment for 2024?

To be fair, Walker should have been called HTB when he flopped to the ground going for a high free kick.

 

[Poo Eckert]

Always a fan of Billy and it’s a real shame we didn’t have the foresight to persist with him as a tall defender, which we needed.

It shows how easy it is for players to lose confidence in themselves when left to languish in the 2nd’s.

 

[Buget]

Yes it was a free - and at another point in the game would have been paid.

But my take is that there was so much flopping by players around the ball in that final 20 seconds of play to milk a free - including by Walker and Fogarty - that the umpires thought f- u guys you have to earn the ball there's no way I'm paying a free.

And yes the crow media are already calling it as 'the decision that cost us the season'.

But rest assured Chairman John Olsen has placed his usual call to AFL House demanding action like he did last year. Although his mate McLachlan is no longer there to act as his agent and publicly name and shame the umpire involved. The whole AFL world is paying the price for that public whine this season - with goal umpires now refusing to take a chance and sending every second decision up for video review.

But hey, lets just forget that there were bad calls that went the crows way and gifted them kicks at goal. Or that what actually 'cost them the season' was the fact that they were totally dominated in every aspect of the game at their home ground for most of the game last night by Essendon who would have won by 10 goals had they kicked straight.

But yeah - that one decision 'cost Adelaide its season'. Happens every year apparently. FMD.

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I thought the same when watching the “final two minutes”.

Every contest there was arm waving for frees. Heads were dropped and thrown back, but none of them were paid. We have kind of come to expect that from Rachelle and Rankine, but the were some others like Josh Worrell doing as well.

May be just play the ball? Win the footy…

 

[OneGreatClub]

Just watch the highlights from the Crows game.

100% that was a flop by Draper. How that wasn’t paid, with the umpire right there is a mystery.

Is this their “goal line review” moment for 2024?

“They were robbed” yet again but there are multiple times in a game where a side is robbed. It is more dramatic in the dying seconds and gets so much extra attention but really a bad ump decision or two earlier in a game can really turn a game on its head.

 

[Buget]

How petulant are the Adelaide lol. Essendon belted them off the park and yet due to Essendons inaccuracy Adelaide somehow feel cheated. Make it make sense.

The stats are actually pretty even. The crows at one stage kicked 7 goals to none…

Petulant yes… Belted off the park… That’s a little harsh.

 

[Del165198]

I thought the same when watching the “final two minutes”.

Every contest there was arm waving for frees. Heads were dropped and thrown back, but none of them were paid. We have kind of come to expect that from Rachelle and Rankine, but the were some others like Josh Worrell doing as well.

May be just play the ball? Win the footy…

Every player in the history of the game does that. Good umpiring if it's really tight ignores it but can still pick out the frees that are there. Any that are 50/50 in the last couple of minutes just let them play

 

[Palpatine_Power]

Wasn’t Izak Wankin’ Rankine crapping on about being the best player in the world? He’s not even the best player at the Camries

 

[Buget]

Every player in the history of the game does that. Good umpiring if it's really tight ignores it but can still pick out the frees that are there. Any that are 50/50 in the last couple of minutes just let them play

Whilst that is how they umpire. There is nothing in the rule book that states the umpiring is to change in the final minutes of the game.

Do they actively put away the whistle? Or are the 50/50 non-calls just noticed more when the game is on the line?

Walker should have gone for HTB, Draper should have gone for dragging it in. Would these have been paid at the 10min mark of the first quarter?

 

[gbear]

The game last night was against two teams who will be challenging for nothing come seasons end. Essendon likely snuffed out the franchise’s last hope of improving in 2024.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

This would have been great but I think I marginally prefer...

1 second to go

Umpire whistle...

"Free kick...

Essendon! In the back"

That was my thought at the time too. And a bit of theatre from the ump - blows the whistle, waits a beat while crows' players and supporters start celebrating, then does an overstated push in the back gesture and Free kick Draper.

As Tex cries the ump tells him he looked like Bronson Reed delivering a tsunami, and reports him for dissent.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

At his presser Scott was asked about the free kick and said Everyone remembers the one at the end, do you want me to list the ones during the game that went against us?

And I believe he would have.

 

[Buget]

That was my thought at the time too. And a bit of theatre from the ump - blows the whistle, waits a beat while crows' players and supporters start celebrating, then does an overstated push in the back gesture and Free kick Draper.

As Tex cries the ump tells him he looked like Bronson Reed delivering a tsunami, and reports him for dissent.

And then a 50 for dissent.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Walker should have been penalised for throwing his head back to a tackle that was always at chest height. And doing it after the tackle had finished, like his brain couldn't send the signal to his head in time. It's not that far.

 

[philreich]

Draper was asked about that final non decision - he boldly said that it made up for the one the Crows got just before half time. As usual, the media and Crows fans are bemoaning the closing moments of the game, but the fact is that they were lucky to get as close as they did, and there were questionable decisions both ways.

 

[VineValerian]

Whilst that is how they umpire. There is nothing in the rule book that states the umpiring is to change in the final minutes of the game.

Do they actively put away the whistle? Or are the 50/50 non-calls just noticed more when the game is on the line?

Walker should have gone for HTB, Draper should have gone for dragging it in. Would these have been paid at the 10min mark of the first quarter?

Probably, but we've literally seen hundreds of "last few seconds" decisions not paid
No ump wants to be the one who decides the game with a line ball call a couple of seconds from full time.
It's human nature.
Better to call play on than give a free.
May not be strictly correct, but that's how it nearly always goes.

Haven't seen the replay in super slow mo yet.
Does Draper pull it in?
Or does another player knock it under him as he's falling face first to the ground?
Do 4 players immediately jump on his back so it can't be knocked out?
Does anyone actually tackle him, or do they just sit on him?
Does Draper intentionally make sure he smothers the ball so it can't be knocked out?
Was it in the back?
Was Tex htb just before?

All I know is.....................................

Brave Crows!
We wuz robbed!
Roight in fronna me
1-5

 

[VineValerian]

The stats are actually pretty even. The crows at one stage kicked 7 goals to none…

Petulant yes… Belted off the park… That’s a little harsh.

Yes
Dons should only have won by 8 goals.

 

[gbear]

The funniest thing about crows supporters last night is that they think Nicks will be sacked after only just extending him and the fact they don5 recognise how their list is