Mega Thread Port Forum General AFL Thread Part 29

[RussellEbertHandball]

McGuire basically did the AFL's dirty work and told the Tassie government what they had to put in their bid on national TV on Footy Classified on 7 April 2021 .

McGuire was on the AFL's "Coronavirus cabinet" so he was saying that the AFL weren't going to fund much if Tassie wanted a team, as the AFL still hadn't recovered from Covid fall out, which wasn't as bad as first thought, but still produced a lot of red ink.

“You can have a stand-alone team in the AFL competition in 2028."

“But from this year you need to contribute not $10m but $20m per season indexed forever."

“You also need to hit the Federal Government up for a further $20m, forever."

“The AFL will be in for a similar amount and you will need to find $10m-15m in commercial profit to make this work."

“In the next six years you, Tasmania, need to declare you are all in for AFL men’s and women’s football.”

"You need to build pathway programs, scholarships and talent identification programs to contribute at least six players per year into the AFL Draft by 2028."

“You are averaging two at the moment. Sandringham Dragons average six from their catchment area. So its not too much to ask."
......

“Premier, you need to decide where your ground will be. That's your call. But it needs a stadium with a roof. Simple as that.”

Papa G, McGuire mentions " the joint will go nuclear," at 1.30 in the video.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Whilst digging up the McGuire video clip from 7 April 2021, I found a post I did 2 weeks later when Andy Demetriou was on the show for a long interview and he was asked about the next CEO even though McLachlan hadn't talked about leaving and he didn't made his announcement until November 2022 and left in October 2023.


Talks about the next CEO, praises Gil, discusses Brendon Gale a bit, and talks about next CEO has to understand footy, said that he has changed his view, used to think could be a corporate person. Says legal GM at AFL, Andrew Dillon, is a dark horse (would be a David) mentions Travis Auld as other major internal candidate. From club land he mentioned to Dave Matthews at GWS who used to work at AFL, Xavier Campbell Brian Cook as well. McGuire wants Gale to work on Tassie or northern clubs first before he would get the CEO jobs. Andy D said Gill would get a say in who is his replacement especially if he anoints and mentors someone.

 

[El Zorro]

This type of stadia are money-generating entertainment venues. Whether it is football, cricket, soccer or music concerts, they all are for-profit activities these days. The general public have to pay to enter these venues to watch an event. There is absolutely no public benefit that can justify spending taxpayers money building venues to support these very profitable industries. It's like asking government to foot the bill to build a casino or a cinema complex. We are not talking about suburban ovals that can be accessed by the general public and have a clear social benefit, as it might have been the case 50-100 years ago.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

This type of stadia are money-generating entertainment venues. Whether it is football, cricket, soccer or music concerts, they all are for-profit activities these days. The general public have to pay to enter these venues to watch an event. There is absolutely no public benefit that can justify spending taxpayers money building venues to support these very profitable industries. It's like asking government to foot the bill to build a casino or a cinema complex. We are not talking about suburban ovals that can be accessed by the general public and have a clear social benefit, as it might have been the case 50-100 years ago.

Profits are made and taxes collected. No different to government subsidising other industries and certain types of infrastructure (not all) that requires the public to pay to access it.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Adelaide Crows considering 'Midas touch' administrator for board

A Crows legend could step away from the AFL club's board in March – and his most likely replacement is a long-awaited arrival at the Adelaide Football Club.

www.indailysa.com.au

Neil Balme is ready to join the Adelaide Football Club board, replacing – and taking the football director portfolio – from long-serving club great Mark Ricciuto.

Balme, 72, is finally answering the four calls to join Adelaide that began in 2020. He has had offers to be on its staff, first as a so-called “godfather” to impart his wisdom from six decades of senior football. There also is his noted “Midas touch” with AFL premierships in football administration at Collingwood, Geelong and Richmond.

The announcement could be formalised in the first week of March at the Adelaide Football Club annual meeting.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Adelaide Crows considering 'Midas touch' administrator for board

A Crows legend could step away from the AFL club's board in March – and his most likely replacement is a long-awaited arrival at the Adelaide Football Club.

www.indailysa.com.au

Neil Balme is ready to join the Adelaide Football Club board, replacing – and taking the football director portfolio – from long-serving club great Mark Ricciuto.

Balme, 72, is finally answering the four calls to join Adelaide that began in 2020. He has had offers to be on its staff, first as a so-called “godfather” to impart his wisdom from six decades of senior football. There also is his noted “Midas touch” with AFL premierships in football administration at Collingwood, Geelong and Richmond.

The announcement could be formalised in the first week of March at the Adelaide Football Club annual meeting.

lol why bother?

Riccuito with a 72 year old Balme:

 

[simba_]

who told you to put the Balme on?!

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Adelaide Crows considering 'Midas touch' administrator for board

A Crows legend could step away from the AFL club's board in March – and his most likely replacement is a long-awaited arrival at the Adelaide Football Club.

www.indailysa.com.au

Neil Balme is ready to join the Adelaide Football Club board, replacing – and taking the football director portfolio – from long-serving club great Mark Ricciuto.

Balme, 72, is finally answering the four calls to join Adelaide that began in 2020. He has had offers to be on its staff, first as a so-called “godfather” to impart his wisdom from six decades of senior football. There also is his noted “Midas touch” with AFL premierships in football administration at Collingwood, Geelong and Richmond.

The announcement could be formalised in the first week of March at the Adelaide Football Club annual meeting.

Good get for the Crows unfortunately.

On SM-G975F using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[El Zorro]

Profits are made and taxes collected. No different to government subsidising other industries and certain types of infrastructure (not all) that requires the public to pay to access it.

I am sure that was considered in the economic analysis that found that the cost to benefit ratios don't add up. There is subsidies, and there is being bullied into paying for the whole thing.

 

[JimmyBC]

I have Balme in any role over a gazillion people at Port even if he was 90. Good get.

 

[VineValerian]

Footy's getting closer.

Played with West Adelaide for a year I think???
Would he be a good Magpies top-up player to consider?

 

[VineValerian]

flipping west coast with 2 of their 3 in back to back games against us at AO. One in extra flipping time of an elimination final the other the loss also effectively eliminated us from the following years finals. It’s actually ridiculous how harsh that was.


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

Think Dom's was like Stevie Motlop's - a couple of seconds prior to the final siren.

 

[Grave Danger]

Dom wasn’t after the siren, was on the run with only a few seconds left, siren sounded back in centre square.


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

Okay, thanks. Subsequent events of that season have given me a memory lapse.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I am sure that was considered in the economic analysis that found that the cost to benefit ratios don't add up. There is subsidies, and there is being bullied into paying for the whole thing.

I was talking in general about government's subsiding stadiums. I didn't read the 170 page report into Tassie stadium review.

It wasn't a thing in Oz until Sydney won Olympic hosting rights in September 1993. Prior to that the only time governments chipped in significant funds, and paid for new stadiums or major upgrades, was when Australia hosted big international sporting events.

Menzies government stepped in and paid to build the Olympic Stand at MCG for 1956 Olympics as Melbourne City Council/ Vic state government/ MCC were squabbling about it all. Brisbane City Council had to build QEII Stadium at the then suburb of Mt Gravatt as Qld state government refused to pay anything, for the 1982 Commonwealth Games. WA government subsidized the building of most venues in Perth for the 1962 Commonwealth Games.

Government Cricket Trusts in Sydney and Brisbane had to raise their own funds to build stuff for their cricket grounds. VFL paid for Waverley Park, SANFL for Footy Park. WAFL never owned Subiaco, leased it from the council, so that's why it was a poor slow development stadium before 1993. Lang Park was owned by Brisbane City Council and that was a poor quality stadium.

SACA and WACA had to fund their cricket ground developments with little help from governments.

John Cain had some decent vision and paid to develop the Melbourne Park site ( back then called Flinders Park) in the mid 80's, but that was to make sure Victoria and Australia maintained 1 of the 4 grand slams. The Melbourne facilities were a long way behind the other 3 grand slams. Now every few years, Craig Tilley and Tennis Australia stick out there hand and say gives us lots of money to upgrade it, or we will lose the event to China or the middle east. And the Vic government caves in.

Once Sydney won Olympic hosting rights, the lure of 6 soccer games in your capital city made state governments jump to redevelop and/or build stadiums for the world to come to and see across Oz. Docklands started as a rectangle stadium for those 6 soccer games, then Super League war saw News Corp get involved and finally the AFL said, hang on with this location, you are better off to build an oval and we will be the main tenant. This was all private monies and only Vic government involvement was to hand over the land for bugger all.

Meanwhile in the early '90's NFL Commissioner Paul Taglebue assisted by the Sports Professor - Rick Horrow, started pitching to city governments and state governments the benefit of stadium developments for existing or new NFL teams attached to other property developments close by. Tax free interest on municipal bonds was a nice little lever in the US to get private-public partnerships up. The AFL saw what they were doing and went into fully copy them and harass governments to fund upgrades and new stadiums mode and were just as successful, if not more so, because you didn't need to have a referendum style vote by voters to approve the funding plans, like most cases in the USA had to go thru.

But big international sporting events are still big drivers of major stadium upgrades / new stadiums. 2003 Rugby World Cup saw a $200m redevelopment of Lang Park and a couple of other rectangle stadiums. The 2010 bid for the 2022 FIFA WC, saw state government lock in upgrades even if Oz didn't win the event. The 2023 FIFA Women's WC in Oz drove quiet a few decent rectangle stadium upgrades, including $45m at Hindmarsh Stadium.

 

[Portology]

And our game here this year I believe is scheduled under lights in July, so it is almost certainly going to be around or below freezing by kickoff. Genius.

Under lights or under heaters?

 

[TazD]

Adelaide wheeling out Balme like he's El Cid.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Adelaide wheeling out Balme like he's El Cid.

been playing age of empires?

 

[Jonts]

been playing age of empires?

Conquers expansion m8

 

[TazD]

been playing age of empires?

A decade ago, yes.

 

[JohnHinckleyJr]

Balmes rotted old carcass will fit in nicely next to rooshito and the rest of the job squad

 

[WillemDaDrew]

I have Balme in any role over a gazillion people at Port even if he was 90. Good get.

Why? Balme hates Port, always has.
I’d welcome Brian Cunningham a role on the board more so than that boofhead any day.

 

[Papa G]

Think Balme always respected Port. Always liked Balme, despite 84.

 

[SonOfKek]

A decade ago, yes.

Wololo

 

[JimmyBC]

Think Balme always respected Port. Always liked Balme, despite 84.

He has said when he came to SA the tactics side of coaching here impressed him as opposed to the VFL all brawn approach at the time, could listen to him all day he's an intelligent hard real football person.