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So pretty much the equivalent of what Brisbane gave up for Beams. (5, 25 and Crisp for Beams and 67)

I dont think it is that bad and could be worse.
Pick 5 is vastly different to pick 9 though. They might both be first round picks put what do you think we would have to give up to upgrade this pick 9 to pick 5. It's done more often in the NFL but I would think you would have to give up a pick of between 15-20 to upgrade those 4 spots so there is quite a difference.
And Gore. Well I thought he looked OK in the championships but he doesn't have any real weapons. Happy to have him and hope he proves to be a gun but at this stage he is really only steak knives.
 
I feel like Dean Gore is another Jarryd Lyons

No - Gore is quicker and kicks further and can run both ways.

Following is Knightmare's assessment from his 2014 phantom draft:
" 20. Dean Gore (SA – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 183cm, Weight: 86kg, DOB: 26/06/1996
Recruited from: Sturt
Draft range: 25-65
Best position/role: Midfield – on the ball.
Strengths:
Contested ball winning ability – Gore is a strong contested ball winner and attacks the ball at pace, more often than not coming out with it. He is strong over the ball and is clean with his pickups off the deck and can take it off the deck on the move. His contested ball winning numbers were strong both through the U18 Championships and at SANFL League level.
Strength and power – Gore has a strong body and uses it to his advantage. He seemingly never goes to ground. He uses his strength over the ball to firstly win the contested ball but then can also bully his way through the contest with his forward momentum. He hits the contest at pace and has the strength and low centre of gravity to stand up in the tackle and the forward momentum to keep moving forward with the ball even through the tackle, such is his strength through the hips or get a clean handball off to a target. He will bury guys in his tackles and do some real damage when he takes guys to ground. He has the strength in the 1v1 contest to beat his guy.
Pace and endurance - Gore also for such a big bodied midfielder has excellent explosiveness, really in traffic almost always moving at full pace and going on 10m to 15m high speed bursts, exploding through the contest. He seems to have very good pace over 20m and also overs the ground well and has good endurance which is pleasing for a big bodied midfielder.
Tackling – Gore has excellent tackle numbers but in addition to that he also attacks the man with real ferocity really burying guys in his tackles and knocking the stuffing out of them making it a real strength of his game.
Skillset – Gore has a very good skillset by position. He has a long 55m kick on him and can finish on goal from range. To a target Gore is very good over short and medium distances and can when he has time and space lower his eyes but over long distances he has shown a tendency too often to blast away to a contest. By hand Gore is reliable in finding his targets consistently and in delivering cleanly.
Marking ability – Gore is a strong mark overhead and has a real strength of hands overhead. He can take marks on the lead and is also a strong mark 1v1 and can out-body his opponent in the contest for the mark. He is also a strong mark in the air displaying an excellent vertical jump.
Versatility – Gore while a midfielder first can also play in the front half and present as a marking target, provide some tackling pressure and hit forward 50 targets or hit the scoreboard. It is also not out of the question that he could as required play in the back half as he has a strong body but then also athletically and from a skill standpoint is more than good enough to make that transition into the back half if required.
Weaknesses:
Kicking under pressure - Under pressure in the contest by foot he can rush it onto his boot and kick it forward without look more than he perhaps needs to when he stands up so strongly though the tackles of opposition players.
Ability to accumulate outside – At this stage Gore as with most inside players at this stage does not find much ball outside the contest and still needs to learn where to run outside the contest to get more involved in general play.
Ability to do damage outside – Gore while quick inside the contest is not a threat at this stage to break the lines on the outside or break games open with his kicking or do anything game changing outside the contest.
What I expect will improve:
I expect Gore to continue to improve his inside game and as he progresses, to become more of a weapon in the front half as well as also learn how to find more ball outside the contest.
Who he can become?
I see Gore developing into someone similar to Josh Caddy as that similar big bodied midfielder who can at times rotate forward.
When will he be ready to play?
Gore has the ability to play as soon as season one and fit in at AFL level given his proven performance at SANFL League level.
How to best utilise him?
Through the midfield on the ball with occasional stints in the front half.
Interpretation of his numbers:
Numbers through the U18 Championships were strong collecting excellent contested ball numbers and tackle numbers. He has also in his play at SANFL League level showed that he can play and play well against the older bodies collecting strong numbers and also with strong contested ball numbers, strong clearance numbers, excellent marking numbers, a very good disposal efficiency with both his work by hand and foot good, as well as the ability to hit the scoreboard most games. Going off his play at SANFL League level Gore is capable of playing in season one"

Seems to be in the mould of Geelong type midfielders over the last decade.
 
But couldnt get a game for a crap geelong team. I doubt he will get a game in our midfield. Another inside mid to add to our inside list...
You know he was injured for a large period throughout the year? Had 3 really strong VFL games at the start of the year then got injured. Was close to debuting.
 
Lyons is the best field kick on your list. Do any of you guys actually keep an eye on these guys when they play?
He really, really is not.

He is a very good kick to advantage/a lead inside 50, off both feet. Backward of half forward, his field kicking is ordinary. Has a tendency to blaze long to nobody or to overestimate the length on his kick and try to kick 50m to a lead but it drops short and gets chopped off.
 

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Redhorse was saying he will state by the end of last week he wants out of Carlton.

Everyone seems to be very confident, were going to get him for our Second rounder and a player. That's one of the reason were giving 2016's pick for Curly and not this year.
 
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