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[The King!]

I was perusing the POTY threads over the years out of curiosity regarding Jake Lloyd's performances in finals (result: He has never received a POTY vote from this board in a final, but I will die on the hill that he is a gun!)

Of course me being me, I got carried away and ended up looking at all the votes from finals games going back to 2012 (I couldn't find any from earlier) and ended up creating a whole list of the average POTY votes received by each player in finals.

So pop quiz time... who were the top 3 Swans based on average POTY votes received in finals between 2012-2022?

NO CHEATING (not that most would have the time... this s**t took me longer than I care to admit.)

Person with the correct guess wins nothing.

So hows that important Penske File going?

Well boss, not quite finished.

But we needed it today Caeser88

well how about you read my 25 page analysis on the best swans performers in finals according to some annoymous fans on a footy forum

After reading.....I like the cut of your jib, promoting you to manager.

 

[Ticky009]

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[Wolftone]

Aldsl we need to do is plant Campbell 60 metres out and get the ball to him. He is well within distance. 100 goals to Campbell season over lol.

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[Dubai Quacker]

Aldsl we need to do is plant Campbell 60 metres out and get the ball to him. He is well within distance. 100 goals to Campbell season over lol.

On JAT-L29 using BigFooty.com mobile app

Perhaps why he's playing off half-back. Maximises the opportunity to have a crack from 60.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

@ceasar. What were the totals over that period? I thought you were going with total finals POTY votes over the period rather than average per final. My vote would have been JPK if total was the metric, probably followed by Goodes & Parker. Buddy an honourable mention.

 

[caesar88]

@ceasar. What were the totals over that period? I thought you were going with total finals POTY votes over the period rather than average per final. My vote would have been JPK if total was the metric, probably followed by Goodes & Parker. Buddy an honourable mention.

The top 3 for total votes were JPK (43), Parker (35) and Goodes (21). So you were nearly spot-on.

I looked at averages though as the totals tended to favour those who had played in the most finals (Parker had the most finals out of anyone, JPK the 3rd-most) so it wasn't very exciting. I didn't need to look at numbers to figure that JPK and Parker would've got the most votes in finals having played in so many.

My interest was more in how the players were actually performing in the finals they were in, no matter how many or few they played in, so the averages were more illuminating there.

End of the day though it's one metric of measuring performance out of a dozen. We've been blessed to have so many good finals performers over the year, though I doubt we'll ever find one like JPK.

 

[bedford]

The top 3 for total votes were JPK (43), Parker (35) and Goodes (21). So you were nearly spot-on.

I looked at averages though as the totals tended to favour those who had played in the most finals (Parker had the most finals out of anyone, JPK the 3rd-most) so it wasn't very exciting. I didn't need to look at numbers to figure that JPK and Parker would've got the most votes in finals having played in so many.

My interest was more in how the players were actually performing in the finals they were in, no matter how many or few they played in, so the averages were more illuminating there.

End of the day though it's one metric of measuring performance out of a dozen. We've been blessed to have so many good finals performers over the year, though I doubt we'll ever find one like JPK.

End of the day is that it's people on BF

 

[caesar88]

End of the day is that it's people on BF

To be fair, I would rate the views of us folk on here as superior to basically anyone's except the coaches (hence my regular citing of B&F votes.)

I put more stock in the views of fans of the club, who know the team and the players and the game plan, than I do other parties like voting panels made up of umpires, or commentators, or journalists.

We all think they're mad and don't know what they're talking about when it comes to our club but then we hold the awards they give out (Brownlow, Norm Smith, All Australian etc) as gospel. I just don't get it.

 

[rustycrate]

To be fair, I would rate the views of us folk on here as superior to basically anyone's except the coaches (hence my regular citing of B&F votes.)

I put more stock in the views of fans of the club, who know the team and the players and the game plan, than I do other parties like voting panels made up of umpires, or commentators, or journalists.

We all think they're mad and don't know what they're talking about when it comes to our club but then we hold the awards they give out (Brownlow, Norm Smith, All Australian etc) as gospel. I just don't get it.

I am happy to start an award. But it would be awkward giving someone a rusty crate on the podium.

 

[dosser]

To be fair, I would rate the views of us folk on here as superior to basically anyone's except the coaches (hence my regular citing of B&F votes.)

I put more stock in the views of fans of the club, who know the team and the players and the game plan, than I do other parties like voting panels made up of umpires, or commentators, or journalists.

We all think they're mad and don't know what they're talking about when it comes to our club but then we hold the awards they give out (Brownlow, Norm Smith, All Australian etc) as gospel. I just don't get it.

I wouldn't think we are that knowledgeable. I'm an idiot.

 

[anotherletdown]

I wouldn't think we are that knowledgeable. I'm an idiot.

Fellow idiot reporting for duty, Sir!

I know as much as your average... Sydneysider

 

[GoTheSwannies]

caesar88 I definitely agree with your approach, I just thought it would be interesting/ fun to think back to the player who played during those years and see who had the most votes irrespective of the amount of games played. From a challenge perspective you need to consider roughly what years they played and how impactful they were during those games.

Edit: and you did say average. So I didn't read your post thoroughly enough. Average is definitely the more reliable metric as you mentioned.

 

[scaryness]

The top 3 for total votes were JPK (43), Parker (35) and Goodes (21). So you were nearly spot-on.

I looked at averages though as the totals tended to favour those who had played in the most finals (Parker had the most finals out of anyone, JPK the 3rd-most) so it wasn't very exciting. I didn't need to look at numbers to figure that JPK and Parker would've got the most votes in finals having played in so many.

My interest was more in how the players were actually performing in the finals they were in, no matter how many or few they played in, so the averages were more illuminating there.

End of the day though it's one metric of measuring performance out of a dozen. We've been blessed to have so many good finals performers over the year, though I doubt we'll ever find one like JPK.

The most important POTY finals stat is that Nick Smith got 4 votes in the 2014 Qualifying, and Smith getting votes is unheard of.

Should have been 5 btw...

 

[caesar88]

The most important POTY finals stat is that Nick Smith got 4 votes in the 2014 Qualifying, and Smith getting votes is unheard of.

Should have been 5 btw...

Smith was great that day, as he so often was.

But Parker took on peak Nat Fyfe and came out on top. Pretty hard to go past that!

 

[Callipygian]

To be fair, I would rate the views of us folk on here as superior to basically anyone's except the coaches (hence my regular citing of B&F votes.)

I put more stock in the views of fans of the club, who know the team and the players and the game plan, than I do other parties like voting panels made up of umpires, or commentators, or journalists.

We all think they're mad and don't know what they're talking about when it comes to our club but then we hold the awards they give out (Brownlow, Norm Smith, All Australian etc) as gospel. I just don't get it.

I think the key is that it's the views of us on here collectively rather than any given individual. Plenty of individual fans are crackpots. And most of us have sentimental biases. Taken like that, I completely agree with you.

I also agree with Bucks' who recently published his list of most important awards a player can win and I think he rated

1. B&F in a premiership year
2. Norm Smith
3. Coaches MVP
4. AFLPA Player of the Year
5. Brownlow

It was something like that anyway. I'm pretty confident about the first two. I possibly would have put the Coaches MVP ahead of the Norm Smith but the general idea I support all the way.

 

[caesar88]

I think the key is that it's the views of us on here collectively rather than any given individual. Plenty of individual fans are crackpots. And most of us have sentimental biases. Taken like that, I completely agree with you.

I also agree with Bucks' who recently published his list of most important awards a player can win and I think he rated

1. B&F in a premiership year
2. Norm Smith
3. Coaches MVP
4. AFLPA Player of the Year
5. Brownlow

It was something like that anyway. I'm pretty confident about the first two. I possibly would have put the Coaches MVP ahead of the Norm Smith but the general idea I support all the way.

The Norm Smith is one of the most overrated awards going around. I'd say Buckley included that one so high because he won it LOL

B&F in a premiership year and coaches votes are the only ones that carry any weight IMO.

 

[Maximumlnsanity]

I think the key is that it's the views of us on here collectively rather than any given individual. Plenty of individual fans are crackpots. And most of us have sentimental biases. Taken like that, I completely agree with you.

I also agree with Bucks' who recently published his list of most important awards a player can win and I think he rated

1. B&F in a premiership year
2. Norm Smith
3. Coaches MVP
4. AFLPA Player of the Year
5. Brownlow

It was something like that anyway. I'm pretty confident about the first two. I possibly would have put the Coaches MVP ahead of the Norm Smith but the general idea I support all the way.

Brownlow above the AFLPA for sure

 

[GoTheSwannies]

It would be interesting to see the top 10 list of each of those awards (if that's even something that can be done) to see how they stack up against each other. Norm Smith would be the one with most variability given its one game, albeit the biggest game of all, but there's always the possibility of a lesser light shining on the day compared to the other awards.

 

[bedford]

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was going to win in 06 before the druggies

 

[BloodySwan]

Melbourne to share the load at the CBA in an attempt to keep their players fresh throughout the season

Move over, Trac and Clarry: Dees to share centre-bounce load

Expect more Demons to start in the centre this year as they seek to avoid the fadeouts that plagued them in 2022

www.afl.com.au

This debate comes up regularly on this board with the Swans but it's not an exactly obvious benefit of having players able to play multiple positions.

 

[caesar88]

My dad's doing Supercoach for the first time this year. He goes for Freo. He rings me and asks me to check his team.

12 Freo players on the field.

 

[Maximumlnsanity]

My dad's doing Supercoach for the first time this year. He goes for Freo. He rings me and asks me to check his team.

12 Freo players on the field.

The only Freo players I'd go near are Brayshaw & Brodie... (Yeah Darcy is good but you don't know what Jackson will do to his scores)

 

[caesar88]

The only Freo players I'd go near are Brayshaw & Brodie... (Yeah Darcy is good but you don't know what Jackson will do to his scores)

I have Young & Switkowski in mine, for reasons I have mentioned in other threads.

But we better stop the Supercoach talk, or Bedford will come in here with a sawed-off and tell us to get off his thread.

 

[Maximumlnsanity]

I have Young & Switkowski in mine, for reasons I have mentioned in other threads.

But we better stop the Supercoach talk, or Bedford will come in here with a sawed-off and tell us to get off his thread.

Yeah Young might be a decent midpricer tbf, I dunno about Switta tho. Anyway, 12 is like 10 too many lol

 

[Tesla Tenet]

Boring post about installing the goal posts.



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