Power unveils clash guernsey

[Geoffa32]

Hopefully only one or two games that our normal jumper clashes with. I hate the fact that "clash" jumpers have turned into away jumpers despite there being no clashes. No club wants to wear their clash/away jumper in a GF.

What colour does teal clash with? I don't understand why people say this goes against the concept of a clash jumper. Isn't it about non clashing colours rather than a clash jumper having to be all white?

Anyway part of me thinks a bullshit jumper is appropriate for a bullshit concept like a clash jumpers. It's the AFL executives being blind as bats and colour blind that we have this rubbish. There are probably about 5 genuine jumper clashes in the 120 possible jumper clash combinations between the 16 clubs.

All white or near all white is crap for any club. It is meaningless and belongs to soccer where you have 8 red, 6 blue and 4 yellow teams in each major league.

AMEN

Although I think five clashes is a very high figure. Crows home/Melbourne home is about it. That is if your cataracts are playing up whilst squinting. For 100 years white shorts fixed the problem anyway.

Also when we play Richmond Essendon in Melbourne we have to wear a clash jumper. They come over here and they dont. Is the air (or people) denser in Melbourne and thus the clash occurs

 

[Waspy79]

That'd be your 2009 Membership target.

Should I admit to laughing out loud when I read that?

I'm not sure if I like the guernsey or not. It certainly it is far better than many others I have seen over the years. I think I would prefer more teal or black shorts, there is too much white.

 

[Walshy_The_Goat]

Awesome jumper... well from the front anyway. The all-teal back looks very pansy-ish though, and very similar to a netball teams outfit - all that's missing is a 'GS' on the back. I reckon they could have added a little black on the back to balance things out, but other than that it looks pretty solid for a clash jumper.

 

[jinxd]

Looks great... except its missing a purple anchor! Hmm... Port seems to be stealing our players and our jumper... what next?!

 

[PowerForGood]

Looks great... except its missing a purple anchor! Hmm... Port seems to be stealing our players and our jumper... what next?!

Your captain.

 

[Drewcula]

Losing my Big Footy virginity to express my affection for Port's new clash guernsey. A million times better than our previous clash "guernseys". Going to be keeping an eye out for one to purchase this year..

 

[krisholio14]

I said it on bay 13 and i'll say it again here

 

[mcgarnacle]

Hopefully only one or two games that our normal jumper clashes with. I hate the fact that "clash" jumpers have turned into away jumpers despite there being no clashes. No club wants to wear their clash/away jumper in a GF.

its mostly new clubs that have taken this route. besides, the away guernseys of these clubs arent generally effective as alternate uniforms. its the AFL rules that allow all the BS. this is a recurring theme.

What colour does teal clash with? I don't understand why people say this goes against the concept of a clash jumper. Isn't it about non clashing colours rather than a clash jumper having to be all white?

the issue here isnt necessarily the colours used. its the fact that the guernsey is distinguished from itself, i.e., white front with black & teal squiggly lines and red sponsors logo vs all-teal back with white number and prominent yellow sponsors logo. is this the most effective way to approach the issue? the ultimate objective of match-day uniforms is to differentiate the two teams on the field. still, its not the clubs that should be blamed here. its the lack of stringent regulation from the AFL. it appears their directions to clubs is to merely come up with a guernsey that doesnt clash with certain clubs without the provision of any stringent guidelines. it seems unbeknown to the AFL that each and every club uniform has an impact on the presentation of the game......whether it be at the ground, or more importantly, on television.

Anyway part of me thinks a bullshit jumper is appropriate for a bullshit concept like a clash jumpers. It's the AFL executives being blind as bats and colour blind that we have this rubbish. There are probably about 5 genuine jumper clashes in the 120 possible jumper clash combinations between the 16 clubs.

the AFL have NFI. as i mentioned above, uniform rules are a necessity because the issue affects the presentation of the game. is this still a semi-pro suburban league? the AFL is reactive rather than proactive on this issue, or simply manipulates the rules based on the clubs involved.

All white or near all white is crap for any club. It is meaningless and belongs to soccer where you have 8 red, 6 blue and 4 yellow teams in each major league.

the AFL has a large proportion of clubs with black or navy as the predominant colour. there arent many clubs in soccer with white alternate strips. it's more of an american thing in the NFL/NBA. still tho, the yanks manage to incorporate the teams colours in the design of the uniform, and i dont see many of their uniforms whored to the highest bidder......but thats another issue.

 

[portly]

I wonder what "1870" means?

Hmmmm. Just for a moment there I thought you were being silly.

But then I realised that there may be some out there (particularly insular Vics) that don't know that our club, which has won 35 GF's I might add, was established way, way back in 1870.


Oh, how droll am I?

 

[Beckers]

Hmmmm. Just for a moment there I thought you were being silly.

But then I realised that there may be some out there (particularly insular Vics) that don't know that our club, which has won 35 GF's I might add, was established way, way back in 1870.

That was the Port Adelaide Magpies who wore excellent Prison Bar jumpers and would never have worn Ghey Teal numbers.

 

[portly]

That was the Port Adelaide Magpies who wore excellent Prison Bar jumpers and would never have worn Ghey Teal numbers.

Who then entered the AFL.


In the very early days they wore magenta, which nowadays would probably be called "ghey".

 

[Bobby Giovanni]

Who do Port actually clash with?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

its mostly new clubs that have taken this route. besides, the away guernseys of these clubs arent generally effective as alternate uniforms. its the AFL rules that allow all the BS. this is a recurring theme.

But is that an AFL directive or a club policy with the AFL leaning on them. Most fans don't want to see their team play in a clash guernsey.

the issue here isnt necessarily the colours used. its the fact that the guernsey is distinguished from itself, i.e., white front with black & teal squiggly lines and red sponsors logo vs all-teal back with white number and prominent yellow sponsors logo. is this the most effective way to approach the issue? the ultimate objective of match-day uniforms is to differentiate the two teams on the field. still, its not the clubs that should be blamed here. its the lack of stringent regulation from the AFL. it appears their directions to clubs is to merely come up with a guernsey that doesnt clash with certain clubs without the provision of any stringent guidelines. it seems unbeknown to the AFL that each and every club uniform has an impact on the presentation of the game......whether it be at the ground, or more importantly, on television.

Everybody who wears a white guernsey wears all white. So using a teal back is a point of differentiation straight away. It's not going to clash with anybody and it's not going to harm anybody.

I'll be curious to see how it comes up on TV as some kid designed an all teal guernsey for a home game this year and I thought it came up well when the players back was to the TV. Let's face it, this is a TV driven thing the AFL is pushing on clash guernseys and as we know TV supplies the money so the AFL bends to them.

the AFL have NFI. as i mentioned above, uniform rules are a necessity because the issue affects the presentation of the game. is this still a semi-pro suburban league? the AFL is reactive rather than proactive on this issue, or simply manipulates the rules based on the clubs involved.

The AFL should stick out of club colours and guernseys. They should worry about fixing up the holding the ball - holding the man - push in the back rule rather than telling clubs what they can and can't wear. They should try and fix that up first.

The one thing that is constant at a club is the colours. The coaches, players , management etc all come and go. For the fans, one thing they know is a constant are the colours. The club and the fans should have ultimate control over them not the AFL.

The silliest thing the clubs ever did was hand over power of logos and guernsey design to the AFL. Sure handing over power to run the game to an independent body was a necessary move to advance the game. But the logos and design of the clubs has nothing to do with running and advancing the game in a better way. It is just a control mechanism in case the clubs were to go to another league (see RL super league teams), but the AFL have abused their power by telling the clubs what they can and can't design.

the AFL has a large proportion of clubs with black or navy as the predominant colour. there arent many clubs in soccer with white alternate strips. it's more of an american thing in the NFL/NBA. still tho, the yanks manage to incorporate the teams colours in the design of the uniform, and i dont see many of their uniforms whored to the highest bidder......but thats another issue.

Arsenal, Fullham, Liverpool, Manchester United, Middlesborough, Stoke City and Sutherland are all 2008/09 EPL clubs who have red and white in their uniform, some have additional colour(s). Most of these clubs wear red or red and white on their guernsey but have worn an away white strip in their history. But now days with merchadising being a big part of their business, they come up with all sorts of colours to be able to sell them as special one off strips.

But like most things the NFL do a great job and set the pace. The AFL copies them time and again, but not always as successfully.

 

[ams4crows]

I quite like it! Would have liked a bit of silver added but yeah it's ok.... better than some other clash stripps around.

but really the whole clash busniess is a load of bull!

 

[i_love_the_hoff]

Apparently celtic_pride was supporting Geelong back then.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13292154&postcount=10

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13287273&postcount=35

hahaha!
pwnd

 

[JHF1870]

Who cares what the jumper looks like, I couldn't give a shit if it were pink with flowers on it, as long as we are winning games. And I'm confident we will.

 

[i_love_the_hoff]

Who cares what the jumper looks like, I couldn't give a shit if it were pink with flowers on it,

If it were pink with flowers on it i would dig a hole and die in it!

But about winning games...i'm on board!

 

[horj89]

Average guernsey

 

[tribey]

For 100 years white shorts fixed the problem anyway.

I'd like to hear the opinions of North Melbourne and Collingwood players who played on mudbowls at Arden Street and Vic Park how easy identification was.

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

Yes, when you hold any two guernseys up 5 metres away from your face in a well lit room you can clearly tell the difference - as Sam Newman once condescendingly did with Collingwood and Port Adelaide guernseys on TFS.

Duh. But it's not about that.

It's about quick, clear and easy identification for the punters in Row ZZ at the MCG or AAMI.

For the player on the bottom of a pack trying to dish out a handball through a sea of arms and legs.

For the TV audiences at home when the camera follows the ball in flight on anything less than a super HD telecast with a housewidth plasmascreen.

 

[Marklar_33]

Looks a bit too netballish. The teal doesn't help.

Notice the 'bolts' on the right side of this logo, how they are so close together? This would look better on the Port jumper, running from the right shoulder down to the left hip... instead of that broken looking teal bolt/shark that is on there now, all white bar the teal and black solid bolts running like a backward sash

 

[Docker Clint]

Who do Port actually clash with?

The gainfully employed.

 

[Lightning_Rod]

The gainfully employed.

pay that

 

[Smeagle]

Well, it looks like a bogan tattoo (absolutely nailed their taget market), but mark my words - it will sell!

Could have done a LOT better with the back.
It will look like 3 guernseys are out on the field.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Who do Port actually clash with?

Themselves.

 

[mcgarnacle]

im glad there are at least 2 other people out there that actually get it.

I'd like to hear the opinions of North Melbourne and Collingwood players who played on mudbowls at Arden Street and Vic Park how easy identification was.

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

Yes, when you hold any two guernseys up 5 metres away from your face in a well lit room you can clearly tell the difference - as Sam Newman once condescendingly did with Collingwood and Port Adelaide guernseys on TFS.

Duh. But it's not about that.

It's about quick, clear and easy identification for the punters in Row ZZ at the MCG or AAMI.

For the player on the bottom of a pack trying to dish out a handball through a sea of arms and legs.

For the TV audiences at home when the camera follows the ball in flight on anything less than a super HD telecast with a housewidth plasmascreen.

and also, the general presentation of the sport.

just another example, one of Carlton & Collingwood have played matches against the other in recent times with a white hoop around their socks. This white hoop is the only distinguishing feature on otherwise 36 pairs of similar black/navy socks on the field at any one time. A lot of good this is going to be when around half of them will be worn down. And then we expect a goal umpire to try and work out who kicked the ball through the big sticks on a goalline loose ball situation when several different players are trying to hack a boot at it. Instead of being proactive now with uniform rules, the AFL will wait till an umpiring **** up and then react to it accordingly, as they do with just about every other issue that surprisingly crops up. A 'lets cross that bridge' when we come to it approach.

Let's get professional here.

Could have done a LOT better with the back.
It will look like 3 guernseys are out on the field.

try 4 guernseys if Port use it against St. Kilda (black back different to tri-panel front) or collingwood (predominantly black back different to predominantly white front). and no BS about tradition because Collingwood and St Kilda have both had a guernsey that was the same front and back. i understand the Port alternate guernsey/uniform probably wont clash with either of them, but guernseys that are different front and back adds another variable to complicate the issue. the objective of the match-day uniform is to distinguish the 'two' teams in the most effective manner. The display of 4 guernsey designs isnt the most effective way here. AFL guernseys/uniforms add another variable by distinguishing it from itself. this just complicates the task.

once again, it's up to the AFL to get it right through more stringent rules regarding match-day uniforms.