Pre Season Draft Discussion

[warney7]

Re: Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

Might pass on that......thanks all the same!

 

[windyhill]

Re: Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

Please, no.
Please.

 

[boms]

Brisbane Lion a man in demand
Stephen Rielly and Jake Niall | October 13, 2007

AN UNUSUALLY fruitful trade period in which 20 players changed clubs, against only nine last year, ended yesterday but not for Brisbane Lions' Jared Brennan, who immediately became the most sought-after pre-season draft target.

While Essendon has made the running on the uncontracted Brisbane 23-year-old, three of the four clubs ahead of it in the pre-season draft order — Richmond, Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs — all indicated last night their interest in pursuing him.

Sensing the chase to come, the Lions put a revised three-year offer to Brennan after the 2pm close of trading yesterday but not before the Dons reiterated their intent to lure him south with a three-year contract understood to be worth more than $900,000.

Melbourne and Richmond also either contacted Brennan's agent, Peter Whitehead, or said they intended to.

Whitehead said the revised Lions' offer had not been agreed to and that Brennan wanted to assess "all of his options".

"Since the close of the trading today, the Lions have made another offer to him but no agreement has been reached and at this point in time he's considering his options," Whitehead said.

"At this stage, nothing's been decided. He's keeping all of his options open. He doesn't feel under pressure to make a decision and at the end of the day he'll do what's best for his football and for the future of his young family."

Whitehead said that while Brennan had recently been in Darwin and had not attended the Lions' best-and-fairest count last week, he denied that the gifted but erratic player had walked out on the club.

"He's back from Darwin and although there's been speculation about him disappearing on the club, it hasn't got to that. He hasn't severed contact with Brisbane," said Whitehead, who added that Brennan was not concerned by the idea of a shift south.

"The pre-season (draft) is very much one of his options. He's open to the idea of going to Melbourne. I've spoken with Essendon a few times today. They are obviously an option. Very much an option. But Jared has to come to a decision first."

If the Dons pick Brennan up in the pre-season draft, they stand to lose one of their own, Kepler Bradley, the same way.

After a deal between Fremantle and Essendon, involving Bradley and pick 55 in exchange for Fremantle's pick 40, collapsed just before the 2pm deadline Bradley's agent Colin Young suggested that the 21-year-old might still return home to Western Australia and get to the Dockers for nothing.
Young spent the afternoon with Bradley, canvassing his options, and later said he expected to talk with Essendon and Fremantle in the next 72 hours. Failed negotiations between the clubs culminated in an angry stand-off, with former Essendon player and present Fremantle coach Mark Harvey expressing his displeasure with his former colleagues.

Richmond, holder of first choice in the pre-season draft, indicated that Brennan and Collingwood ruckman Guy Richards were on its radar.

While the acquisitions of Jordan McMahon and Mitch Morton and retention of Jay Schulz on a contract for next year that is said to guarantee the former South Australian $275,000 led rival clubs to question whether the Tigers could afford Brennan, Richmond director of football Greg Miller insisted that they had the room to accommodate him.

Miller said the Tigers had sufficient room to recruit Chris Judd and therefore would not have any troubling in signing Brennan. He called Brennan and Richards "a good starting position" for pick one in the pre-season draft.

Schulz had seemed destined for Port Adelaide. He agreed to join the grand finalist after visiting Alberton mid-week but Miller said the club had considered Port's offer of pick 28 "unacceptable". It is believed Richmond wanted pick 18 exchanged for Port's 16.

Melbourne also confirmed last night that it would be interested in Brennan as a pre-season draft pick. The Demons have third pick behind Richmond and Carlton.

Carlton is another possible suitor for Brennan, although the Blues will wait to see who is available.

"We have space available in the pre-season for a very good player and we'll wait and see who's going to be available," said Carlton football manager Steven Icke.

Sydney's Jude Bolton is out of contract, having been up for trade at the right price, as is Geelong's Kane Tenace, who could appeal as a pre-season draft target if he decides to leave the Cats, who shed players yesterday in a remarkable post-premiership fire sale.

Former captain and premiership ruckman Steven King was donated to St Kilda, along with Charlie Gardiner, for the unusable pick 90 as salary cap pressures bit. Henry Playfair and Tim Callan also were sacrificed.

The unusually high number of transactions was the result of rule changes that have given clubs the option of discarding picks they acquire in trades.

A number of players, who would otherwise have ended up in the draft, were traded for inconsequential picks, including Collingwood's Ben Davies to the Kangaroos for pick 96.

One who wasn't able to move was Collingwood's Rhyce Shaw. After a move to Brisbane was scuttled by a contractual impasse, Shaw, who is contracted for two more seasons, was offered without success to several clubs yesterday, including Carlton and the Kangaroos

That sounds pretty good to me

 

[bomberandy]

Re: Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

Only if it was a choice between him and Cloke. Lucky it isn't

 

[Longy413]

Re: Fergus Watts - Possible Don Recruit

No thanx, don't know why we would want or need him. Pfeiffer's the way to go.

Get Pfeiffer of the Pfiss and I reckon he might be a good get.

 

[polakthetiger]

We will struggle to make minimum TPP IMO. I believe Lloyd will be on veteran's list... can someone confirm that?

Either way, Lucas would be eligable and I think Fletcher already is.

I believe the max for vets is 2.

Seems you have quiet a few fighting for the list though

 

[Longy413]

I believe the max for vets is 2.

You can have as many as you want.

Seems you have quiet a few fighting for the list though

Three...

Wow.

One more than your mob.

And you also have Brown, Simmonds and Johnson as 29 year olds.

I really hope you weren't trying to make a point there turbo, because you've fallen on your arse.

 

[boms]

Jared Brennan is almost certain to continue his football away from the Lions.

Brennan's bags are packed and the likelihood of him continuing with the Lions next year are fading fast.

Essendon and Richmond are favoured to win his signature after negotiations between his manager and the Lions stalled. The Bombers have tabled a three-year contract, which is understood to be about $900,000.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,2...1-11088,00.html

 

[jetta2davey]

i think that Richmond may pick up guy Richards or Josh Fraser if he's available.

 

[The Donners]

You can have as many as you want.



Three...

Wow.

One more than your mob.

And you also have Brown, Simmonds and Johnson as 29 year olds.

I really hope you weren't trying to make a point there turbo, because you've fallen on your arse.

... plus Brown, Simmonds and Johnson won't be eligible for the veteran's list until they're 35-36!

 

[mathew ollaik]

Please Essendon, Do Not Pick Up Whitnal!

 

[Merv]

Please Essendon, Do Not Pick Up Whitnal!

Haven't you heard?

Sheedy is gone

 

[mathew ollaik]

Haven't you heard?

Sheedy is gone

thank god!

 

[Lance Uppercut]

that Brennan coup looks less and less likely:

Draft prospect Brennan keen on Lions

Talented Brisbane utility Jared Brennan is shaping as a potential top pick in this year's AFL pre-season draft but he remains keen to strike a new deal with the Lions.

Brisbane have so far been unwilling to meet the contract demands of the versatile 23-year-old, who has regularly shown flashes of brilliance hampered by inconsistency.

Brennan's manager Peter Whitehead said he had spoken with several clubs, including Richmond, who hold the No.1 pick in the pre-season draft, but it did not mean the player was definitely on the move.

"We're just considering our options," he said.

"He still wants to stay with his mates at the Lions ... the door's not closed on Brisbane at all.

"From a family perspective, he's got a young family, he's just looking at securing his family's future.

"But if that can not be worked out with the Lions, there are other options."

Richmond director of football Greg Miller indicated the Tigers would be able to afford Brennan, a former No.3 draft pick who will command a hefty wage bill should he nominate for the pre-season draft.

"We had room for Chris Judd," Miller said when asked if there was room for Brennan under the club's salary cap.

"It appears (Brennan would be the best available player should he nominate for the draft), but I haven't examined the whole list yet as to who's uncontracted and who's available.

"The pre-season draft is about insurance to your list and improving your list in deficiency areas.

"We'll examine all the uncontracted players and weigh them up to see who best suits our list."

Miller also refused to rule out the Tigers chasing sacked Carlton skipper Lance Whitnall.

He was shown the door by the Blues at the weekend - the club telling the 28-year-old they didn't believe his degenerative knee injury would allow him to train often enough to play at his best.

Doctors are believed to have advised Whitnall, who won the club's best and fairest in 2006, that he would only be able to train once a week.

"I haven't spoken to the senior coach yet and he will determine once the national draft is finished who is the best player to help our list," Miller said.

Already the Western Bulldogs, in the market for a key forward, have ruled themselves out of chasing Whitnall

 

[SM10]

Richmond may be able to afford him, but if we get him to say he wants to come to Essendon and get him to demand $500,000 for the first year, Richmond will certainly have big doubts on him.

Does anyone know if Josh Fraser is contracted?? As there has been a few rumors flying around lately.

 

[Merv]

Richmond may be able to afford him, but if we get him to say he wants to come to Essendon and get him to demand $500,000 for the first year, Richmond will certainly have big doubts on him.

Does anyone know if Josh Fraser is contracted?? As there has been a few rumors flying around lately.

Fraser isn't contracted yet, but he won't be going anywhere.

 

[boms]

If he wants to come too Essendon we'll have to give him a 1 year contract worth ALOT of money

 

[hulld]

i thought the pies had a press conference a couple of weeks ago to announce he had signed on???????????

 

[big_slick]

Just a question that i am nt sure about. Hypothetically can Brennan say he will not sign a contract with a club in the PSD unless it's with essendon? Or if you nominate for it you a destined to go where ever and you have to sign a contract with the team that selects you. Apologies if this has already been covered.

 

[TELLIMAN1]

Jason Cloke??

got a sneaking suspicion we will pick him up in PSD draft with knights becomin senior coach, fletch and mal ageing and the possibility of 2 picks......please tell me im wrong!!not a fan!!

 

[Pevers-Legend]

Just a question that i am nt sure about. Hypothetically can Brennan say he will not sign a contract with a club in the PSD unless it's with essendon? Or if you nominate for it you a destined to go where ever and you have to sign a contract with the team that selects you. Apologies if this has already been covered.

All you do is nominate a price on your head for the deal you want. The club that drafts you MUST pay that. Hence people talking about front loading a contract to force clubs to bypass him as they can not fit the nominated salary for next season into their salary cap for next season.

It is how Judd and calrton forced the trade. Judd was going to put a 2 mill price tag for next season in rpe-season draft if the trade didn;t happen.

 

[big_slick]

So basically essendon would need to make an offer no other club could match for him?

 

[FandangoDingo]

I believe the max for vets is 2.

Seems you have quiet a few fighting for the list though

I'm glad our players know how to fight.... rather than just amble laconically, like your mob!

 

[boms]

So basically essendon would need to make an offer no other club could match for him?

Correct.

 

[big_slick]

cheers thanks for your help guys