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[gringo2011]

Hall's probably the one who would be called upon for that role.

He looks more a running high half forward. Said looks more like a potential goal sneak type.

 

[saintmike65]

He looks more a running high half forward. Said looks more like a potential goal sneak type.

Young Said knows where the goals are..he kicked 24.6 this year in the Coates league

 

[CursingFijian]

I've never been a Dow fan but he's a much better player than what he showed this year. He's a big accumulator and a very good contested extractor. Our outside brigade is excellent. We just need Macrae, Jones and Dow types to get it out to them. Jones started to get it late in the year. Dow too to some degree.

Hill, Henry, Wood, Wilson, Byrnes, Nas, Sincs, Hastie and now Travaglia can all move the ball on the outside and if we can get Schoenmaker in we might be able to bypass the centre of the ground all together.

Merry Christmas Gringo.

I agree.

My observation was that Dow wins most of his contests with ultra quick hands, and a sprinkle of burst speed.

I’m wondering if he would be more consistently impactful if he had the ability to shunt like Jai Newcombe does.

Anyway, I hope he has a great year extracting and kicks more than a few goals too.

 

[CursingFijian]

Can you give an example of what an example would look like?

Captain William Kidd

 

[Dr Spaceman]

They choose the band not the pick.
IDK why most people still don't get this.

Thanks but I understand it pretty well.

They choose the band based on some mystery formula which I’m sure includes the vibe of the thing.

So basically he means they wouldn’t have given us band 1 if we finished 5th, to allow us to get pick 6.
It was a little more palatable to them ( with their secret herbs and spices) to give us band 1 knowing we’d “only” get pick 8.

If he hit the right pay level they would have.
There is no evidence that it works the way you think it does.

I’m one who believes there’s a fair chance we may have got end of round 1 had we finished with pick 5.

The process certainly isn’t cut and dried, nor is it transparent.

If it was then Barrett and the rest of the media pack would not have been able to have the hissy fit they did when the compensation was announced.

 

[saintmike65]

Henry hasn't really played much as a mid, and when he's gone through there he's nothing special. I think he's destined to be a forward or winger.

High half forward’s his go, drifting up into stoppage

 

[seasonedsainter]

I think both MCG and Marvel have facial recognition cameras and if he did attend would be something like trespassing etc etc and liable to a criminal offence.

Criminal offence just being a Carlton supporter

Facial recognition cameras? Is that even legal? What is it a system live-checking to a proprietary AFL banned-list database or what? Or are we throwing everyone else into that scope of being able to be detected and stopped? If no real-time monitoring do we have Statler and Waldorf sitting in front of screens watching monitors? All sounds a bit far-fetched and fear mongery to me. Not sticking up for shit behaviour by the way, just don’t think they’d be able to enforce it.

Also, first thing you’d do is buy the cap and scarf of 17 other clubs, where them to every game you attend according to who you’re playing. You could change the cap to a regular cap/beanie once inside and take off the scarf, put on your own teams even. Then of course sit no where near where you used to. Grow some facial hair or vice-versa. Get some nice glasses.

The main security in terms of this sort of thing would be on the entrances. Once in you’re hardly gonna have a crack-team scouring the crowd for lifers who’ve infiltrated the gates, just your regular security guards who couldn’t gaf at the best of times. Doubt you’re going to find much detection issue from the staff watching the screens either, they’d be looking for violence, agitators in the crowd and overcrowding, things like that (insurance)

Sure you couldn’t just waltz back in for long, but a few simple things and you’d be gravy. Of course on the proviso you behave and don’t do something stupid again like the Carlton guy! He was a dickhead.

Some streakers over the years have been hilarious, especially the ones that nearly or do seem to get away, and I think a high $ penalty with no ‘life ban’ is better for streakers, who form a small but unique fabric of the history of the game. There was one guy got hip and shouldered and was out cold from memory, he should have had a few sheckels taken off his fine lol.

 

[Verdun66]

I’m one who believes there’s a fair chance we may have got end of round 1 had we finished with pick 5.

The process certainly isn’t cut and dried, nor is it transparent.

If it was then Barrett and the rest of the media pack would not have been able to have the hissy fit they did when the compensation was announced.

I absolutely agree. The formula is not cut and dried at all. A couple of picks up and I honestly think they might have thought no. Too much grief from the likes of that purple w****r.

Still reckon we’ll be grateful to have got Tootsie and the Viking. There are busts in the group of earlier picks. Not completely sure who. Time will tell of course.

 

[Mstr Strokesman]

High half forward’s his go, drifting up into stoppage

There were games where he was playing like a chf. He was definitely the go to man and connector on the half forward line of the ground coming out from half back.
They were bringing the ball on right half back, to right wing and then him in the centre and a quick spin to the left forward pocket.
The thing I noticed most about this play was his decision making to keep the ball moving quickly whereas as with Membrey I could go for a beer and come back and nothing had changed ,he still had the ball deciding what to do !

 

[Grav]

Facial recognition cameras?

If it works anything like the bunker, then he hasn’t got a problem.

 

[Hubnester]

Facial recognition seems likely. There was a big story from the USA a year or two ago. One of their stadiums owner's was using facial recognition to eject lawyers who represented clients taking legal action against the company. It can all be done. If they're not already using that there then they're mostly powerless, but I imaging being identified in the stadium might lead to some form of trespass.

 

[The Jack]

Band 1 is band 1.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Facial recognition seems likely. There was a big story from the USA a year or two ago. One of their stadiums owner's was using facial recognition to eject lawyers who represented clients taking legal action against the company. It can all be done. If they're not already using that there then they're mostly powerless, but I imaging being identified in the stadium might lead to some form of trespass.

At the very least he's inconvenienced that he can never buy tickets in his own name online.
There are work arounds, but what a pain in the arse.

 

[CursingFijian]

Cheer squad needs 100 blow up bottles whenever we play Carlton and when the Saints kick a goal they all get thrown up in the air.

 

[StFly]

Facial recognition seems likely. There was a big story from the USA a year or two ago. One of their stadiums owner's was using facial recognition to eject lawyers who represented clients taking legal action against the company. It can all be done. If they're not already using that there then they're mostly powerless, but I imaging being identified in the stadium might lead to some form of trespass.

MCG has it, Marvel doesn't, they do manual recognitions with cameras. FTR SCG also has facial recognition software as do a couple other stadiums in use;



This was the list as of a year ago, had privacy concerns going around for "what biometric data is being recoded and why does no one have the ability to opt out, won't someone think of the children and tiny writing in terms of entry?".

 

[stfan]

Seems the club agree since they wanted Berry out of this year's draft.

Personally I think the Club was extremely strategic at the draft this year, but combined that with very prudent trades and only taking he right player if his cost was attractive. So we missed on say a Berry, overlooked some mids who were deemed just lacking some qualities that we needed, but overall gain a very hand draft haul with some very good quality and covering mos of our needs , except that true gun mid that we lust for (Though Macrae can be that , even if only fora few years).

They had various positions in mind, but also very had in mind to gain the best quality that we could at the BEST price. And


And when opportunities presented that we did not have the pick for they traded the pick in.


Pre-draft the Macrae Trade was done very well to get such a quality player, while retaining a still very useful pick as well (After previously trading a second-round pick (then No.27) for a second-round pick (then No.32) and a third-round pick (then No.45) so that we gained Macrae for an excellent price).

 

[stfan]

Hall's probably the one who would be called upon for that role.

And Garcia too, though Garcia would be more your mid/small forward hybrid.

 

[Train12]

Facial recognition cameras? Is that even legal? What is it a system live-checking to a proprietary AFL banned-list database or what? Or are we throwing everyone else into that scope of being able to be detected and stopped? If no real-time monitoring do we have Statler and Waldorf sitting in front of screens watching monitors? All sounds a bit far-fetched and fear mongery to me. Not sticking up for shit behaviour by the way, just don’t think they’d be able to enforce it.

Also, first thing you’d do is buy the cap and scarf of 17 other clubs, where them to every game you attend according to who you’re playing. You could change the cap to a regular cap/beanie once inside and take off the scarf, put on your own teams even. Then of course sit no where near where you used to. Grow some facial hair or vice-versa. Get some nice glasses.

The main security in terms of this sort of thing would be on the entrances. Once in you’re hardly gonna have a crack-team scouring the crowd for lifers who’ve infiltrated the gates, just your regular security guards who couldn’t gaf at the best of times. Doubt you’re going to find much detection issue from the staff watching the screens either, they’d be looking for violence, agitators in the crowd and overcrowding, things like that (insurance)

Sure you couldn’t just waltz back in for long, but a few simple things and you’d be gravy. Of course on the proviso you behave and don’t do something stupid again like the Carlton guy! He was a dickhead.

Some streakers over the years have been hilarious, especially the ones that nearly or do seem to get away, and I think a high $ penalty with no ‘life ban’ is better for streakers, who form a small but unique fabric of the history of the game. There was one guy got hip and shouldered and was out cold from memory, he should have had a few sheckels taken off his fine lol.

Far fetched ?
A lot of venues (including some shopping centres) use it now.
They are probably thinking of bigger fish than a bottle thrower.
But facial recognition is here to stay and is probably a condition of entry now (I don’t know that for fact though).

 

[seasonedsainter]

Far fetched ?
A lot of venues (including some shopping centres) use it now.
They are probably thinking of bigger fish than a bottle thrower.
But facial recognition is here to stay and is probably a condition of entry now (I don’t know that for fact though).

When was is made legal to scan the public with facial recognition software linked to either proprietary or G’ment based data? Were people consulted and what boundaries were set? Sounds like someone took the top off a barrel-fire.

Condition of entry, that’s a laugh, I’ve not a thing to hide but I’d never attend AFL again on principle if that were the case and never give them another cent. If I was living in Australia I’d simply start following whatever was local more and step away. It’s already become gentrified to within the last gasp of its personality.

I don’t think people should accept things as ‘here to stay’ so easily.

Plus, strongly tipping follow some/all of above advice and arrive when it’s busy, keep your head down, you’ll be golden, full stop.

Not in Black Mirror just yet. I’d imagine things have tightened up significantly last 6 years though. Well not just imagine.

 

[seasonedsainter]

And yes I realise I write this as Palantir is up nearly 400% YTD and worth $187bn. It’s the future but it doesn’t mean we have to like it or accept it and the AFL/Laura Kane show don’t know shite from shinola.

 

[SteeleSaints]

And Garcia too, though Garcia would be more your mid/small forward hybrid.

Garcia is my smoky to have a break out year, hopefully he gets plenty of games to settle into the side. He just has a real competitive drive and manic want for the ball, you cant bottle those qualities.

The beauty of our list is we finally have the depth to keep most players accountable and lift standards. The quality of our kids are brilliant and they alone will drive our club forward.

Finally we can be settled in the knowledge that we have the list to become a very very good side.

Everyone in the media will suggest we are a botttom 4 side but wait til the real stuff begins they will soon be eating their words.

 

[seasonedsainter]

It’s funny how we went from needing gun/elite mid talent when we were getting pantsed during the real stuff, to not drafting a mid with either of our top 10 draft picks, to having dramatically improved our midfield. It really is good going.

 

[Train12]

When was is made legal to scan the public with facial recognition software linked to either proprietary or G’ment based data? Were people consulted and what boundaries were set? Sounds like someone took the top off a barrel-fire.

Condition of entry, that’s a laugh, I’ve not a thing to hide but I’d never attend AFL again on principle if that were the case and never give them another cent. If I was living in Australia I’d simply start following whatever was local more and step away. It’s already become gentrified to within the last gasp of its personality.

I don’t think people should accept things as ‘here to stay’ so easily.

Plus, strongly tipping follow some/all of above advice and arrive when it’s busy, keep your head down, you’ll be golden, full stop.

Not in Black Mirror just yet. I’d imagine things have tightened up significantly last 6 years though. Well not just imagine.

Mate I’m no expert, I’m just telling you it’s the technology currently to used to detect people.

And did it not say in brackets I don’t know that as fact about condition of entry?

Anywho enjoy your Boxing Day!

 

[StFly]

When was is made legal to scan the public with facial recognition software linked to either proprietary or G’ment based data? Were people consulted and what boundaries were set? Sounds like someone took the top off a barrel-fire.

Condition of entry, that’s a laugh, I’ve not a thing to hide but I’d never attend AFL again on principle if that were the case and never give them another cent. If I was living in Australia I’d simply start following whatever was local more and step away. It’s already become gentrified to within the last gasp of its personality.

I don’t think people should accept things as ‘here to stay’ so easily.

Plus, strongly tipping follow some/all of above advice and arrive when it’s busy, keep your head down, you’ll be golden, full stop.

Not in Black Mirror just yet. I’d imagine things have tightened up significantly last 6 years though. Well not just imagine.

Conditions of entry to the MCG, note 3.2 under 3. Filming.

Now I know no one reads T&C's at my work given the calls I get about things, but some people having NFI and still waxing lyrical will never not be hilarious to me.

Just for ref also, Here's the AFL Ticket & Entry Conditions document which also has 2.2(a) that mirrors the above.

And since I have docs going back to the late 90's, this has been consistent, just language has changed as tech improved to either add or remove certain lings re cameras and analogue to digital things.

It's also the reason why the chats last year are still ongoing BTW (at least to the best of my knowledge) as your face is not as security oriented as your credit card number for example in current parlances. Privacy is still a concern in such situations for it to then be an ongoing discussion point as to what may change in the near future.

Anywho, hopefully this helps.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Personally I think the Club was extremely strategic at the draft this year, but combined that with very prudent trades and only taking he right player if his cost was attractive. So we missed on say a Berry, overlooked some mids who were deemed just lacking some qualities that we needed, but overall gain a very hand draft haul with some very good quality and covering mos of our needs , except that true gun mid that we lust for (Though Macrae can be that , even if only fora few years).

They had various positions in mind, but also very had in mind to gain the best quality that we could at the BEST price. And


And when opportunities presented that we did not have the pick for they traded the pick in.


Pre-draft the Macrae Trade was done very well to get such a quality player, while retaining a still very useful pick as well (After previously trading a second-round pick (then No.27) for a second-round pick (then No.32) and a third-round pick (then No.45) so that we gained Macrae for an excellent price).

In this new SOS era we can see it's a matter of making your own luck.
We clearly identified Boxshall and went and got him, Said also. Dodson was fortunate to slide but we actually rated Boxshall higher which is interesting.
I think it's likely that had we had picks 5&6 we may have also taken the same 2 players.
Barrat was definitely needs based but seems to have flown under the radar and is the one I'm most happy with TBH.
Overall it was a good spread same as last year. I'd have liked to take the Hoff as well but we cut pretty hard and there just wasn't a spot for him unfortunately.