Game Day Preview - Round 8 - Collingwood v Sydney MCG Sunday 7 May 3.20pm

[Piesinmyeyes]

Is it the day for Finn to sub?
Wet track may suit his game me thinks and deserves a look…
Big body against Swans also may be useful.

 

[jmac70]

The idea that a 20 year old who isn’t even old enough to be fully physically developed has reached his peak already is ludicrous.

It’s the old BF rule, player gets dropped equals end of career.

 

[sr36]

I will answer you later also after the match.

The big watch for me is whether we are more dangerous with balls to the hotspot. We started the year really well in that regard, but have dropped off big time since McStay and Adams left the forward line. With Adams and Cox/Frampton likely to play forward, I'm hoping we get back to scoring some goals from that sort of entry, as teams are going defensive against us and thus we're going to continue to enter that way a lot

 

[LuckyLee]

Is it the day for Finn to sub?
Wet track may suit his game me thinks and deserves a look…
Big body against Swans also may be useful.

I agree with this.

In warm, dry, fast conditions I’d be much less keen on Macrae as sub but today’s conditions should suit him, he has done everything right in his injury rehab and subsequent VFL performances, so deserves a chance.


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[sr36]

Whilst it’s true he struggles aerially, in defence of jack, if you watch the crows game last quarter again, he set up the Johnson goal beautifully, then had two quick pressure / possession acts to free up the ball that led to the Noble goal. This is what we miss when he doesn’t play

This will be the area of his game that really develops over the coming years. He actually reads it really well in the air as we've seen with those chest marks where he protects the ball drop. But at the moment, he doesn't even try to compete with his hands above his head or try to get a fist in when he has to. Just stays down and hopes it falls his way. Which is the go when there's a pack, but not when he's the only one there and has to provide a contest.

 

[Vicky Park]

A lot of 20 year olds are still developing the strength to tackle. That isn’t his obv weakness… it’s pace / athleticism. He is a slow twitch player, and at his position, this is virtually a non-starter. But he has been able to get away with it because of smarts and skills. The indirect result though, is that he struggles to catch opponents, and his tackles are also sluggish.. along with his developing strength.

I hope this can be developed somewhat, as he is so dangerous, but I fear jack has reached his athletic peak, and is showing signs of why recruiters felt he wasn’t suited to afl footy.

Whilst it’s true he struggles aerially, in defence of jack, if you watch the crows game last quarter again, he set up the Johnson goal beautifully, then had two quick pressure / possession acts to free up the ball that led to the Noble goal. This is what we miss when he doesn’t play

I liked this post for the last paragraph and especially the last sentence.

So it’s a partial like.

Regarding reaching his athletic peak, in amongst all the positives of our current coaching setup, is Fly’s reputation for developing players. Ginni is in the best possible position - and dare I say at the best possible club - for further development.

 

[Mkcaptain]

My only issue with Macrae is sub is that we already have a full contingent of midfielders in the starting 22. If he gets subbed on for a forward or defender it forces either Pendles/Crisp to the half back line or De Goey up forward.

Ginnivan/Harrison make more sense for me as a tactical sub structurally, as you can fit them onto the field by playing around with Adams' magnet (from fwd to mid) or WHE's magnet (to HBF).

 

[jmac70]

I will answer you later also after the match.

What if you forget?

 

[noideaatall]

The big watch for me is whether we are more dangerous with balls to the hotspot. We started the year really well in that regard, but have dropped off big time since McStay and Adams left the forward line. With Adams and Cox/Frampton likely to play forward, I'm hoping we get back to scoring some goals from that sort of entry, as teams are going defensive against us and thus we're going to continue to enter that way a lot

I believe the drop off came as a result of losing 3 talks, mcstat & the cc's.

 

[Jen2310]

Ginni is the sub

He is the only one not named in the final VFL team

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[sr36]

I believe the drop off came as a result of losing 3 talks, mcstat & the cc's.

Agree. But I also think we've been less fierce at the ball drop when it has come to ground. We were swarming all over ground balls the first few weeks.

 

[cityslick1]

I believe the drop off came as a result of losing 3 talks, mcstat & the cc's.

Cameron in particular was in ripping form, and has been sorely missed. Makes our achievements over the past few weeks even more remarkable. With a big shout out to Billy Frampton, who has proven to be a fantastic moneyball recruiting decision, and the defenders and forwards (Johnson) who have plugged the gaps so well….

 

[Maggie5]

Raining heavily in Northern suburbs right now and absolutely freezing outside.

Hope they have the right shoes on as going to be slippery.

Also no public parking available at Yarra Park, (Accessible Permit holders) at Gate 3,5, 7, so public transport it is.

 

[cityslick1]

The idea that a 20 year old who isn’t even old enough to be fully physically developed has reached his peak already is ludicrous.

Mark McGough, Chris Egan, Josh Schache, Aiden Begg, Sam McLarty and countless other past players say hello….

Happens all the time in sport, just ask Matt Shirvington

 

[magpies42]

Yes he does. I don’t agree at all.

You’ve also called McCreery soft so I’m not sure about your judgment on this issue. This isn’t the 70s anymore and with head protection players aren’t leading with their heads these days.

Ironically Ginny does lead with his head. Mcreery is another yes that pulls out of 50:50 contests. Not always protecting the head.

 

[magpies42]

Calling a player soft is very negative. Reasonable to assume you have turned on him.

So what should I say, he’s tentative? If I say a player is a bad kick, I’m not turning against him I’m just saying he’s got a weakness.

 

[FireKrakouer]

If we f lose this game, I'm gonna buy my kids Carlton memberships and move to far north QLD to establish a Cassowary farm and join a cult. That's it for me re... I've had it!

As the great man himself would've said, place a gorilla on Cox to kick the first sausage roll today. RIP to Gimpos the Great.

 

[Vicky Park]

Ginni is the sub

He is the only one not named in the final VFL team

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Thank God. I was about to lose my s**t again, which is not good reading on here.

 

[gouki88]

Ironically Ginny does lead with his head. Mcreery is another yes that pulls out of 50:50 contests. Not always protecting the head.

Just inventing things, yet again

 

[cityslick1]

Just inventing things, yet again

I call it smart rather than soft to protect your head. And McReery is the last player I’d call soft. There may also be an element of not wanting to give away frees, which the coaches know hurts momentum so much, so caution against and likely police heavily

 

[sr36]

So what should I say, he’s tentative? If I say a player is a bad kick, I’m not turning against him I’m just saying he’s got a weakness.

Soft is assuming and suggesting that the bloke approaches play in a way that lacks physical courage. Sometimes blokes don't go as directly for a contested ball as you'd like for other reasons - positioning too offensively for the break away, backing themselves to pluck the ball and be able to scoot away without needing to body line it, preferencing locking it up in a tackle based on the field and game situation, misreading the situation, etc.

 

[jathanas]

Thank God. I was about to lose my s**t again, which is not good reading on here.

You be you, VP.

 

[Chameleon75]

If we f lose this game, I'm gonna buy my kids Carlton memberships and move to far north QLD to establish a Cassowary farm and join a cult. That's it for me re... I've had it!

As the great man himself would've said, place a gorilla on Cox to kick the first sausage roll today. RIP to Gimpos the Great.

mods, surely that’s infraction worthy, no need for such filthy language on here

 

[jathanas]

I liked this post for the last paragraph and especially the last sentence.

So it’s a partial like.

Regarding reaching his athletic peak, in amongst all the positives of our current coaching setup, is Fly’s reputation for developing players. Ginni is in the best possible position - and dare I say at the best possible club - for further development.

Any assessment made by a recruiter about a prospect's potential at the highest level is null and void once said prospect has gone out and actually kicked as many goals as Ginni has. Any crap about "this is why he wasn't rated by recruiters" is just that... crap. The guy has shown what he can actually do, no need revert to the guessing games of the experts.

People called Diesel slow because he was... still a top footballer though. Pendlebury isn't much of a bullet either.

Ginni will be afforded the time and support to increase his strength, power, & endurance. This combined with his acumen and finishing ability will make him a very valuable asset.

 

[Vicky Park]

Ginni will be afforded the time and support to increase his strength, power, & endurance. This combined with his acumen and finishing ability will make him a very valuable asset.