Preview R1: Changes for 2025

Of the players at the fringes or who are getting on a bit, who will get a gig in Round 1?

  • Chayce Jones

  • Sam Berry

  • Lachlan Murphy

  • Luke Pedlar

  • Brayden Cook

  • Zac Taylor

  • Oscar Ryan

  • Harry Schoenberg

  • Luke Nankervis

  • Rory Laird

  • Wayne Milera

  • Billy Dowling

  • Brodie Smith

  • Lachlan Sholl

  • Hugh Bond


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Milera is 27 and has never been close to one.
My point is we don't have an All Australian Laird to deploy off half back any more. That Laird is long gone.

I wouldn't play either of them but Milera would be ahead to play in defense IMO
 

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About the last time Milera played a near full season.

A player is of no use if they are rarely on the park.

You have the B&F details, so feel free to compare the 2 players.

I'm preferring the player who is on the park.

Well the discussion is about what Milera was delivering when he was on the park.

What he was delivering is better than what Laird currently delivers for a half back role. Laird is a terrible user by foot and has no kicking penetration. He's a sideways handballer. Milera at least takes creative options and is a reasonably good kick.

If we had to play either due to injuries to the best 22 I'm clearly picking Milera and it's not close
 
Well the discussion is about what Milera was delivering when he was on the park.

What he was delivering is better than what Laird currently delivers for a half back role. Laird is a terrible user by foot and has no kicking penetration. He's a sideways handballer. Milera at least takes creative options and is a reasonably good kick
Yet Laird is the one who has been All Australian.

You can count on 2 hands Milera's great games, so there is some serious over rating going on.
 
When has Laird played well in defense in the last few seasons even for short stints? Never?
When has Milera played well full stop for more than 10 consecutive games?

Never!

Milera becomes more awesome the less he plays...
 
We're not talking about their injury record, we're talking about what they bring on the field
Indeed, Milera is rarely on the field!

So you are saying nothing is more than something lol!
 
Indeed, Milera is rarely on the field!

So you are saying nothing is more than something lol!

I'm saying that if there was an injury to the best 22 and both Laird and Milera were available, I'm picking Milera
 
I'm saying that if there was an injury to the best 22 and both Laird and Milera were available, I'm picking Milera
If both were fit I’m going Milera off half back instead of Laird.

One has more penetration and run, Laird will get more possessions but do we want that?

Milera was very good in 2023 playing that role.
 
I'm saying that if there was an injury to the best 22 and both Laird and Milera were available, I'm picking Milera
Laird will be in our best 23, Milera probably won't be.

Laird has played better football from defence than Milera over his career & it's not even close!
 

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If both were fit I’m going Milera off half back instead of Laird.

One has more penetration and run, Laird will get more possessions but do we want that?

Milera was very good in 2023 playing that role.
We have Cumming, Worrell & Hinge across half back, who are all great ball users... so Laird is good balance to feed them the ball.
 
Yeah nah Laird is cooked, Milera still has a future, albeit running out
Don't think you understand the concept of cooked.

If you can't get on the park... you are cooked.

As opposed to playing every game...
 
If both were fit I’m going Milera off half back instead of Laird.

One has more penetration and run, Laird will get more possessions but do we want that?

Milera was very good in 2023 playing that role.
Laird will be in our 23. Regardless of form.

Crouch is far more likely to be dropped than Laird.
 
Don't think you understand the concept of cooked.

If you can't get on the park... you are cooked.

As opposed to playing every game...
I don't think laird had played a good game on two years and constantly stuffs up.
His only attribute is his ability to accumulate possession and his strength and fitness at the end of a game. But he will still butcher it, miss goals and miss team mates. Putting him in defence won't help, it will show him up. And he is replaced in the midfield.

If the choice is between the two, I'm going Milera, if Milera is injured, its not a choice. Remember we are talking defence only.

Thanks Lairdy for coming into our midfield when we had nothing, job well done.
 
I don't think laird had played a good game on two years and constantly stuffs up.
His only attribute is his ability to accumulate possession and his strength and fitness at the end of a game. But he will still butcher it, miss goals and miss team mates. Putting him in defence won't help, it will show him up. And he is replaced in the midfield.

If the choice is between the two, I'm going Milera, if Milera is injured, its not a choice. Remember we are talking defence only.

Thanks Lairdy for coming into our midfield when we had nothing, job well done.
Milera has played a handful of quality games in his whole career.
 
Who really cares if Laird or Milera are best 22, we'll have several injuries sometime along.the way and at that point you ideally want AFL level players on the outside of the team to come in and this is exactly will happen if.these guys are on the outside of the best 22.
 

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