Preview R1: Changes for 2025

[Multiballz]

What a fascinating watch - seeing people turn on one of their own after they suffered a couple of injuries in service to their club. I wonder if it’s some kind psychological exercise to see how many people will jump on. To the point where now things are being obviously fabricated like bad turnovers, not chasing, low effort, poor 1 on 1. These things aren’t real.

We have access to all the games these days - show us these examples, even just time codes when they occurred. But we both know that’s not going to happen.

I've been consistent in my appraisal of him since he was recruited. I'm not making anything up in hindsight.

Yeah I'm not that passionate about the topic to go scroll through all his games for you. You can do that yourself.

 

[Captain Furious]

I've been consistent in my appraisal of him since he was recruited. I'm not making anything up in hindsight.

Yeah I'm not that passionate about the topic to go scroll through all his games for you. You can do that yourself.

Haha, the catchcry of ‘angry young white man on the internet’. If you’re going to make outlandish claims, it’s on you to prove them.

 

[Multiballz]

Haha, the catchcry of ‘angry young white man on the internet’. If you’re going to make outlandish claims, it’s on you to prove them.

Thanks for slipping "young" in there.

 

[Mostyn]

Feel like Hinge is far more consistent and damaging when he’s playing behind the ball rather than the wing, seems like he gets a bit lost when pushing too high up the ground. He shouldn’t have been moved to accommodate Laird.

The wing is a harder position to play - but Hinge is a good option at half back because he also can offer some value as an interceptor.

 

[1970crow]

Haha, the catchcry of ‘angry young white man on the internet’. If you’re going to make outlandish claims, it’s on you to prove them.

how do you not know that you're the 'angry young white man' in your discussion.

 

[Golumless]

Probably looking at something like this entering the draft/preseason

B: Max Michaelanny - Nick Murray - Mark Keane
HB: Issac Cummins - Josh Worrell - Mitch Hinge
C: Lachie Sholl - Jordan Dawson

12

Jordan Dawson

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

D

15.7

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

4.9

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.6

3star

- Billy Dowling
HF: Alex Neal-Bullen

30

Alex Neal-bullen

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.3

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.1

5star

G

0.8

4star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

2star

G

1.5

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

- Riley Thilthorpe - Ben Keays

2

Ben Keays

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.9

5star

G

0.4

3star

D

13.7

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

5.0

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.7

4star

G

0.3

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.4

2star

T

4.4

5star

G

0.4

3star

FF: Josh Rachele - Darcy Fogarty

32

Darcy Fogarty

Age

25

Ht

194cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.5

2star

K

5.7

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.0

4star

- Tex Walker
R: Riley O'Brien - Jake Soligo - Isak Rankine
INT: Daniel Curtin - Luke Nankervis - James Peatling - Matt Crouch

5

Matt Crouch

Age

29

Ht

183cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

- Rory Laird

29

Rory Laird

Age

30

Ht

177cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.4

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

12.5

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.3

4star

CL

1.0

3star

D

19.6

5star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

1.1

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

(sub)

I'm not including pick 4 in this lineup at this point. Equally, I can't imagine Laird isn't in our round 1 best 22, but something has to give for Peatling and Soligo is likely ready to push for a number 2-3 midfielder role.

 

[Golumless]

Helmet on.
You get slammed around here if you mention TT in the mids.
Have been calling him as a tapping midfielder since his draft .
Came across Riley at Adelaide High School in his draft year and asked him
what position he prefers forward or ruck.
Big smile “ midfield hopefully”.

Finally some similar thinking. One year left .

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As you should be:

 

[Captain Furious]

how do you not know that you're the 'angry young white man' in your discussion.

There's strong clues. Identity aside, I'm not the one making outlandish, inaccurate claims and asking other people to prove them. But you would've known that had you read the exchange instead of just choosing to take the obvious smart arse line.

 

[Alwaysacrow]

Probably looking at something like this entering the draft/preseason

B: Max Michaelanny - Nick Murray - Mark Keane
HB: Issac Cummins - Josh Worrell - Mitch Hinge
C: Lachie Sholl - Jordan Dawson - Billy Dowling
HF: Alex Neal-Bullen - Riley Thilthorpe - Ben Keays
FF: Josh Rachele - Darcy Fogarty - Tex Walker
R: Riley O'Brien - Jake Soligo - Isak Rankine
INT: Daniel Curtin - Luke Nankervis - James Peatling - Matt Crouch - Rory Laird (sub)

I'm not including pick 4 in this lineup at this point. Equally, I can't imagine Laird isn't in our round 1 best 22, but something has to give for Peatling and Soligo is likely ready to push for a number 2-3 midfielder role.

Where's Murphy? You know he'll be there come round 1 even though we don't want him there.

 

[Cromulant]

Where's Murphy? You know he'll be there come round 1 as much as we don't want him there.

He MIGHT be the sub, but he's not making the 22

 

[Alwaysacrow]

He MIGHT be the sub, but he's not making the 22

I don't want him even as sub personally.

 

[Cromulant]

I don't want him even as sub personally.

Nor do i.

I reckon thats the only spot where theyll squeeze him in.

 

[bonehilda]

Selecting a player who downright refuses to touch the ball in fourth quarters as sub is hilarious. And they’d do it too

 

[Cromulant]

Selecting a player who downright refuses to touch the ball in fourth quarters as sub is hilarious. And they’d do it too

Im not saying I would, or want to, but I reckon its the only spot available to him.

Especially if guys like Pedlar and Edwards have good pre-seasons.

 

[Golumless]

Where's Murphy? You know he'll be there come round 1 even though we don't want him there.

Nah, only injuries get Murphy back in the side (or sub rotation). He would be a pretty safe selection if we didn't trade for AVB though.

 

[1970crow]

Nah, only injuries get Murphy back in the side (or sub rotation). He would be a pretty safe selection if we didn't trade for AVB though.

Using the below final round side, I can see the following changes/potential changes.

Borlase - out for Keane or Butts, not sure which of those will be favoured
Bond - out for Cumming or Smith/Milera if Cumming plays wing
Taylor - out for Peatling
Berry - out for Rankine
Dowling - out for ANB
Curtin - out for Rachele
Jones (sub) - remains or is replaced by one of the above

I can't see any of Taylor, Berry, Dowling or Curtin playing ahead of Murphy in round 1.

 

[Cromulant]

Using the below final round side, I can see the following changes/potential changes.

Borlase - out for Keane or Butts, not sure which of those will be favoured
Bond - out for Cumming or Smith/Milera if Cumming plays wing
Taylor - out for Peatling
Berry - out for Rankine
Dowling - out for ANB
Curtin - out for Rachele
Jones (sub) - remains or is replaced by one of the above

I can't see any of Taylor, Berry, Dowling or Curtin playing ahead of Murphy in round 1.


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They all play in front of him

 

[1970crow]

They all play in front of him

How many of them knocked him into the 2s this season? They had to wait for injuries to other players, there's no reason to think that Nicks won't see it the same way again as we start next season.

 

[Cromulant]

How many of them knocked him into the 2s this season? They had to wait for injuries to other players, there's no reason to think that Nicks won't see it the same way again as we start next season.

Well Rachele plays R1 next year for 1, and ANB has been brought in as a likely replacement as well.

I know you're a cynical man, but its not hard to see who replaces him

 

[1970crow]

Well Rachele plays R1 next year for 1, and ANB has been brought in as a likely replacement as well.

I know you're a cynical man, but its not hard to see who replaces him

Assuming zero injuries, 5 players come into the 23 - Rankine, Rachele, ANB, Peatling & Cumming. The players that are at risk are Murphy, Bond, Taylor, Dowling, Curtin, Berry & Jones. Nicks has proven that he rates what Murphy brings and that none of Taylor, Crutin, Berry, Jones or Dowling were able to dislodge him from the 23 in season 2024. It's a lot easier seeing him hold his spot than be overtaken by enough of that group.

 

[Cromulant]

Assuming zero injuries, 5 players come into the 23 - Rankine, Rachele, ANB, Peatling & Cumming. The players that are at risk are Murphy, Bond, Taylor, Dowling, Curtin, Berry & Jones. Nicks has proven that he rates what Murphy brings and that none of Taylor, Crutin, Berry, Jones or Dowling were able to dislodge him from the 23 in season 2024. It's a lot easier seeing him hold his spot than be overtaken by enough of that group.

Disagree, but play on.

 

[1970crow]

Disagree, but play on.

I'm all for Murphy being booted from the 23, it's just he wasn't actually overtaken by any of the younger kids like Dowling or Taylor this year. Whatever it is he brings to the side isn't footballing output and it's hard to see that changing over this preseason.

 

[TARANTULA]

No chance Nick's doesn't plsy Murphy, Laird, Jones and Smith round 1 just to piss us off.

 

[Cromulant]

No chance Nick's doesn't plsy Murphy, Laird, Jones and Smith round 1 just to piss us off.

I'd say there's a big chance he doesn't