Preview R1: Changes for 2025

[Cromulant]

Cos they should all get a shot I think. I just can't fit them in.

It will take something pretty good to get him out of the side, bearing in mind he's usually a pre-season BnF

 

[Gtowncrow]

For the sake of the AFC this coming season is better. Let's give Nickys a few weeks grace and hope he does well.

0/2 gets the locals calling for a sacking.
0/3 gets the media in full war cry about a sacking.
0/4 gets Silvers formally informing Nicks the board has decided he has one last chance.
0/5 Davis becomes senior coach. Nicks demoted and retained as an assistant. Nicks refuses and resigns. AFC save on the majority of the payout.
Murphy disappears running out into the night looking for daddy.
Ricciuto resigns in disgrace and is replaced by Balme.

Crows win 16 of the remaining 17 and finish 3rd on the ladder.

 

[Floating Doughnut]

Hey lads, sorry for bombing your thread. I'm a Saints supporter whose been a big Mitch Hinge believer since he came across from the Lions. Do you see him continuing with the same kind of role as last season? Think he surprised a lot of people two years ago. Does the Cumming inclusion/Milera being fit/MM's natural development impact on him being that link out of defence? I know he's not the most accurate peg but he's improved a lot (concerned from a selfish fantasy perspective that these factors may lead him to becoming obsolete in the Adelaide chain). His running capacity is certainly his best attribute but the aforementioned reasons could lead him to become an afterthought in the best 22.

Would like a few Crows fans perspectives. What do you guys reckon? Cheers in advance for indulging me.

Too many options back there this year to pick Crows distributor with confidence and could even see the
role change mid game. All those you mentioned could get the gig or end up on a dead wing at some stage
high risk play imo.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Too many options back there this year to pick Crows distributor with confidence and could even see the
role change mid game. All those you mentioned could get the gig or end up on a dead wing at some stage
high risk play imo.

Hinge has traits of being a good winger though. Could be plenty of experimenting with player positioning at times. Hinge could be moved out.

 

[rubbers0ul]

Hinge has traits of being a good winger though. Could be plenty of experimenting with player positioning at times. Hinge could be moved out.

he has no traits of being a good winger.

he is a player best suited to having the ball in front of him (ie - from deep defence or deep attack).

gets sucked into the contest too much as a winger, doesnt hold the open side and was often caught in no mans land last year - didnt know whether to hold back or go in and get the ball.

is also not the most reliable inboard 30 metre kick.

must better suited to the last line of defence - one of the few blokes who doesnt mind giving up height and weight being stuck in a cage with a gorilla - and can kick the ball 55 metres down the line

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

he has no traits of being a good winger.

he is a player best suited to having the ball in front of him (ie - from deep defence or deep attack).

gets sucked into the contest too much as a winger, doesnt hold the open side and was often caught in no mans land last year - didnt know whether to hold back or go in and get the ball.

is also not the most reliable inboard 30 metre kick.

must better suited to the last line of defence - one of the few blokes who doesnt mind giving up height and weight being stuck in a cage with a gorilla - and can kick the ball 55 metres down the line

Definitely best as a defender. Gave us huge drive in 2023 from down back

He was one who got shoe-horned into a different role at times last season to help accommodate Smith and Laird.

Hopefully we do what's best for our best players this season

 

[George Kramer]

Definitely best as a defender. Gave us huge drive in 2023 from down back

He was one who got shoe-horned into a different role at times last season to help accommodate Smith and Laird.

Hopefully we do what's best for our best players this season

Yep, moving Hinge out to accomodate Laird was a dumb move, hopefully it’s not continued with.

 

[AFC979810]

0/2 gets the locals calling for a sacking.
0/3 gets the media in full war cry about a sacking.
0/4 gets Silvers formally informing Nicks the board has decided he has one last chance.
0/5 Davis becomes senior coach. Nicks demoted and retained as an assistant. Nicks refuses and resigns. AFC save on the majority of the payout.
Murphy disappears running out into the night looking for daddy.
Ricciuto resigns in disgrace and is replaced by Balme.

Crows win 16 of the remaining 17 and finish 3rd on the ladder.

Lose to the depleted saints rd 1 and the pitchforks should be out.

 

[Gtowncrow]

Lose to the depleted saints rd 1 and the pitchforks should be out.

We all hope for good times to return...even if it's with Nicks, I agree he has no margin of error left. It's success or a world of pain for him this year.

A bad loss against the Saints would kill optimism and see a return of doubt. We need to start strongly and build throughout the year. Momentum is awesome when it's positive (Hawthorn 24) but hard to stop when against you.

BTW... when was our last Round 1 victory? I can't remember but someone here will. Anyone...?

 

[AFC979810]

We all hope for good times to return...even if it's with Nicks, I agree he has no margin of error left. It's success or a world of pain for him this year.

A bad loss against the Saints would kill optimism and see a return of doubt. We need to start strongly and build throughout the year. Momentum is awesome when it's positive (Hawthorn 24) but hard to stop when against you.

BTW... when was our last Round 1 victory? I can't remember but someone here will. Anyone...?

2021. Against Geelong. Massive upset. Rowe/McHenry/Murphy/Frampton kicked 7 of our 15 goals.

In the first two games Nicks record is 1-9. Deplorable for a team that should be fresh and hasn't had a short off-season since 2018.

 

[Gtowncrow]

2021. Against Geelong. Massive upset. Rowe/McHenry/Murphy/Frampton kicked 7 of our 15 goals.

In the first two games Nicks record is 1-9. Deplorable for a team that should be fresh and hasn't had a short off-season since 2018.

Just to be clear, does your stat say that Nicks 1-9 in rounds 1 and 2 for the previous 5 years?

That's worrying as it's not luck, or fixture, or form of the oppo. We've simply been poor at the start of each season.

It might not correlate but, it's somewhat parallel to many of our games. Poor start followed by a valiant effort.

Hmm

 

[Coopers]

Lose to the depleted saints rd 1 and the pitchforks should be out.

I've already gone and got a bunch of extra pitchforks in case you guys need them.

Lose, at home, to a team we should be better than, who have a bunch of key players injured?

What, is this round 13 2024 again?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

We're not losing at home to St Kilda's reserves team

 

[AFC979810]

Just to be clear, does your stat say that Nicks 1-9 in rounds 1 and 2 for the previous 5 years?

That's worrying as it's not luck, or fixture, or form of the oppo. We've simply been poor at the start of each season.

It might not correlate but, it's somewhat parallel to many of our games. Poor start followed by a valiant effort.

Hmm

Yes, pretty terrifying.

 

[Golumless]

Just to be clear, does your stat say that Nicks 1-9 in rounds 1 and 2 for the previous 5 years?

That's worrying as it's not luck, or fixture, or form of the oppo. We've simply been poor at the start of each season.

It might not correlate but, it's somewhat parallel to many of our games. Poor start followed by a valiant effort.

Hmm

Seems decently reflective of being in charge over a deep rebuild.

 

[George Kramer]

Seems decently reflective of being in charge over a deep rebuild.

No it doesn’t, there’s no reason why we should lose opening rounds and win other games during the season.

And we weren’t in a deep rebuild in 2024, the club expected to make finals.

 

[Scorpus]

No it doesn’t, there’s no reason why we should lose opening rounds and win other games during the season.

And we weren’t in a deep rebuild in 2024, the club expected to make finals.

He would be expected to win 3 or 4 games out of 10 given he has a 35% career win record

Let's not forget that Nicks is an overall shit coach

 

[George Kramer]

He would be expected to win 3 or 4 games out of 10 given he has a 35% career win record

Let's not forget that Nicks is an overall shit coach

No doubt he’s shit, our record should be better than 35%, that’s deplorable

 

[AFC979810]

No it doesn’t, there’s no reason why we should lose opening rounds and win other games during the season.

And we weren’t in a deep rebuild in 2024, the club expected to make finals.

Its a weird comment from the Golum.

You would think a rebuild would yield complete opposite results.

Young list coming in fitter off a long preseason ready to go. I am fine giving Nicks a pass in 2020,2021,2022.

There is absolutely zero reason as to why we should have started 0-4 in 23,24.

 

[Golumless]

No it doesn’t, there’s no reason why we should lose opening rounds and win other games during the season.

And we weren’t in a deep rebuild in 2024, the club expected to make finals.

However, we were in 2020--2022 which is the majority of that time period, which that statistic I quoted covered. So that alone turns the statistic to just 'quirk of being in a rebuild'. No different to the fact that we've played 7 finalists (and 4 top four teams) in those first 2 rounds in the last 10 attempts.

When you're a bad team you're going to strike at two different points, you've hit a fellow bad team or you're hit a good team who is vulnerable to an ambush game. Winning is just going to be inconsistent, owing to the whole you have a bad or finished list.

Bashing Nicks for 2024 is fair, and warranted. Once you bring 2020--2022 into it you destroy any so-called point you have.

 

[Golumless]

Its a weird comment from the Golum.

You would think a rebuild would yield complete opposite results.

Young list coming in fitter off a long preseason ready to go. I am fine giving Nicks a pass in 2020,2021,2022.

There is absolutely zero reason as to why we should have started 0-4 in 23,24.

Why would it? The older lists are also coming in fitter and ready to go.

I agree with 2023--2024, especially as we threw three of those games away. GWS away in particular was abhorrent.

 

[AFC979810]

Why would it?

The older lists are also coming in fitter and ready to go.

No - they are coming in about a month later with an emphasis on building to their best football in September.

Look at Richmond. From 2018 - 2020 they went 6 wins, 5 losses and a draw from 12 games in their first month of footy.

During that time they went 18-4 Prelim / 16-6 (flag) / 12-4-1 (flag).

 

[George Kramer]

However, we were in 2020--2022 which is the majority of that time period, which that statistic I quoted covered. So that alone turns the statistic to just 'quirk of being in a rebuild'. No different to the fact that we've played 7 finalists (and 4 top four teams) in those first 2 rounds in the last 10 attempts.

When you're a bad team you're going to strike at two different points, you've hit a fellow bad team or you're hit a good team who is vulnerable to an ambush game. Winning is just going to be inconsistent, owing to the whole you have a bad or finished list.

Bashing Nicks for 2024 is fair, and warranted. Once you bring 2020--2022 into it you destroy any so-called point you have.

The point is he is a poor coach, you can’t say “oh we were in a rebuild” and then diminish the shit results when we haven’t been.

Even in 2020 we lost at home to Sydney and they finished in 16th. We fielded a reasonable side to start 2020.

 

[AFC979810]

Bashing Nicks for 2024 is fair, and warranted. Once you bring 2020--2022 into it you destroy any so-called point you have.

Its a bit of a trend though right? 5 seasons and one win from 10 games to start the season.

Finals expectant side (23/24) rebuilding side (20,21,22) our record suggests we aren't ready to start to the season.

We start the season against 4 straight non finalists in 2025. Our round 1 opponent is injury riddled and we are at home.

Anything less than 3-1 to start the season should see Nicks sacked.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

No it doesn’t, there’s no reason why we should lose opening rounds and win other games during the season.

And we weren’t in a deep rebuild in 2024, the club expected to make finals.

Both MJ and the other guy are devout Crows Supporters .....It seems everyone understands 2024 except you George ....ever thought you just don't want to see it

It covers everything I stated about the situation last year ...