Play Nice Random Chat Thread VII

[Chadwiko]

He agreed with Israel’s policy of training and arming these people because of the principle he stated in my signature.

Oh my god are you deliberately not 'getting it' or is this some weird attempt to troll?

I genuinely don't know how I could have explained it any simpler. My five year old daughter would understand.

 

[Ligma]

I am getting circumcised soon

 

[LuvtheKangas]

He agreed with Israel’s policy of training and arming these people because of the principle he stated in my signature.

No, you missed the point of what he said due to missing the complexity of what was happening. Your sig is truly inaccurate.

I'm not here to defend Chad (he's doing it himself), but there seems to be a lot of emotional posting against him in this thread of late, and based on a range of different issues. You've gone after him for supposedly being pro-Israel, Ferbs is angry on SLFs behalf because of supposed disclosure of his profession, when everyone knows it anyway because he's freely spoken of it for a decade or more. DR has gone after him for poking fun at Tef's mental health, when all he (Chad) did was provide (at DRs request) a copy of a deleted post by mav.

 

[Chadwiko]

No, you missed the point of what he said due to missing the complexity of what was happening. Your sig is truly inaccurate.

I'm not here to defend Chad (he's doing it himself), but there seems to be a lot of emotional posting against him in this thread of late, and based on a range of different issues. You've gone after him for supposedly being pro-Israel, Ferbs is angry on SLFs behalf because of supposed disclosure of his profession, when everyone knows it anyway because he's freely spoken of it for a decade or more. DR has gone after him for poking fun at Tef's mental health, when all he (Chad) did was provide (at DRs request) a copy of a deleted post by mav.

God is it refreshing to see common sense in this thread.

I think I am in love with you.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

God is it refreshing to see common sense in this thread.

I think I am in love with you.

Sorry, Mr. Chad, but I don't go in for these backdoor shenanigans. Sure, I'm flattered, maybe even a little curious, but the answer is no!

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[Chadwiko]

Sorry, Mr. Chad, but I don't go in for these backdoor shenanigans. Sure, I'm flattered, maybe even a little curious, but the answer is no!

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[Scallop Industry Thug]

Has Chad been our list manager the last 5 years or something? The level of hate is unhinged.


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[Chadwiko]

Has Chad been our list manager the last 5 years or something? The level of hate is unhinged.

Hahaha.
It's not that complicated unfortunately.

The clique had an echo-chamber going in these threads, and I dared to challenge their worldviews.

That's all there is to it.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

I'm sure many here got the "backdoor shenanigans" reference, but it's worth another look.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

I mean, if I should slip something into your pocket, what's the harm?

 

[Val Keating]

No, you missed the point of what he said due to missing the complexity of what was happening. Your sig is truly inaccurate.

I'm not here to defend Chad (he's doing it himself), but there seems to be a lot of emotional posting against him in this thread of late, and based on a range of different issues. You've gone after him for supposedly being pro-Israel, Ferbs is angry on SLFs behalf because of supposed disclosure of his profession, when everyone knows it anyway because he's freely spoken of it for a decade or more. DR has gone after him for poking fun at Tef's mental health, when all he (Chad) did was provide (at DRs request) a copy of a deleted post by mav.

There’s more to it than that. Unless you followed the devils chessboard thread, there’s a lot you have missed. Captain lockthread is pathetically good at playing the victim.

I’m aware of the complexities (well as much as an outside observer can be) happening over there.

The reason I made that my sig is because of the hypocrisy it shows in regards to his opinion about the war in Ukraine compared to all of the conflicts Israel is currently involved in.

On one hand he’s saying he understands that Israel has to train, arm, support, give medical assistance to radicals, jihadists because they are trying to topple governments that prop up their enemies, but on the other hand he refuses to accept that NATO is partly responsible for the ongoing war in Ukraine because Russia doesn’t want more NATO bases close to its borders.

I suppose in this situation the equivalent would be if Palestine… or even Jordan, Lebanon or Yemen were backed by BRICS and BRICS wanted to put a major base in Palestine, what would the Israeli response be?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I'll stand corrected if/when they confirm that they actually do support / like Trump.

Blaming dems for musk destroying the bill is peak DR. Absolute scenes.


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[krakouers]

I mean, if I should slip something into your pocket, what's the harm?

 

[Chadwiko]

The reason I made that my sig is because of the hypocrisy it shows in regards to his opinion about the war in Ukraine compared to all of the conflicts Israel is currently involved in.

On one hand he’s saying he understands that Israel has to train, arm, support, give medical assistance to radicals, jihadists because they are trying to topple governments that prop up their enemies, but on the other hand he refuses to accept that NATO is partly responsible for the ongoing war in Ukraine because Russia doesn’t want more NATO bases close to its borders.

I'm going to put this in as simple and as few words as I can for you, because you apparently still don't get it;

Israel.
Didn't.
Arm.
Jihadists.

(Also; NATO is not responsible for the war in Ukraine. Russia did support Palestine. Russia did have bases in Syria).

Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

 

[travelli]

Is that what you see? Are you sure?

Go look at my posts. See if you can find a single instance of me initiating any sort of argument out of nowhere.

Genuinely! This isn't hyperbole. I am legitimately encouraging you to go through my history and point out any examples of what you're saying.

If you can, I'll acknowledge it fairly and cop to it.

But I think what you'll actually see is the classic pattern as I described it.

No, I'm busy.

You read your own posts and decide if you aren't shitting on everyone who disagrees with you. It's not debating, it's bad manners.

Your aggressive victim stuff is boring. How many posts has it been this week? Post genuine info, reclaim your time and calm the fk down.

 

[Chadwiko]

No, I'm busy.

Your choice. I can't control how you feel.

Other people in this thread have seen and commented on my constantly getting attacked, and that's enough for me.

You do you.

 

[Val Keating]

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I'm going to put this in as simple and as few words as I can for you, because you apparently still don't get it;

Israel.
Didn't.
Arm.
Jihadists.

(Also; NATO is not responsible for the war in Ukraine. Russia did support Palestine. Russia did have bases in Syria).

Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Yes I know Russia has military bases in Syria. BRICS is relatively new compared to NATO in what they’re trying to create.

The hypothetical I’m using would be the equivalent of BRICS having NATO type bases. Like China having a forward operating base in a country that boarders Israel.

 

[Val Keating]

Interesting https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/syrian-army-finds-israeli-made-weapons-in-is-hideouts-507668

 

[LuvtheKangas]

There’s more to it than that. Unless you followed the devils chessboard thread, there’s a lot you have missed. Captain lockthread is pathetically good at playing the victim.

I’m aware of the complexities (well as much as an outside observer can be) happening over there.

The reason I made that my sig is because of the hypocrisy it shows in regards to his opinion about the war in Ukraine compared to all of the conflicts Israel is currently involved in.

On one hand he’s saying he understands that Israel has to train, arm, support, give medical assistance to radicals, jihadists because they are trying to topple governments that prop up their enemies, but on the other hand he refuses to accept that NATO is partly responsible for the ongoing war in Ukraine because Russia doesn’t want more NATO bases close to its borders.

I suppose in this situation the equivalent would be if Palestine… or even Jordan, Lebanon or Yemen were backed by BRICS and BRICS wanted to put a major base in Palestine, what would the Israeli response be?

Fair enough, I stayed out of the Devil's Chessboard because the very few times I looked, it was a cesspit.

I take issue with this, though: "but on the other hand he refuses to accept that NATO is partly responsible for the ongoing war in Ukraine because Russia doesn’t want more NATO bases close to its borders". I suggest that this is Russian propaganda - e.g. if they were truly concerned about NATO at their borders, then surely they wouldn't have pulled troops out of NATO-surrounded Kaliningrad to fight in Ukraine.

I think it's reasonable to hold the position (which I do) that NATO has very little responsibility for Russia's unilateral decision to invade Ukraine. But even if you disagree, it's a reasonable position, no? Why all the angst?

To your BRICS base analogy, I suspect Israel would react badly. But isn't Israel's history of bad reactions what people are condemning them for? So, if one holds the opinion that Russia were justified in invading Ukraine, then they would have to be OK with Israel bombing a BRICS base in Jordan and staying there, claiming land, no?

Apologies for the over-simplifications of complex geopolitics here. Just trying to make a point.

 

[Chadwiko]

Interesting https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/syrian-army-finds-israeli-made-weapons-in-is-hideouts-507668

Not really that interesting.

ISIS gets weapons from plenty of places. USA. Russia. Chechnya.

Amnesty International did a big study into where ISIS were sourcing their weapons and, while you can and should read the full article, the key section is this;



Do you think this means that America and Russia teamed up to arm ISIS? Of course not.

Just like Israel didn't arm ISIS either.

 

[hilly]

I am getting circumcised soon

Better than the ultimate gear change experienced by male racehorses.

 

[Chadwiko]

I take issue with this, though: "but on the other hand he refuses to accept that NATO is partly responsible for the ongoing war in Ukraine because Russia doesn’t want more NATO bases close to its borders". I suggest that this is Russian propaganda - e.g. if they were truly concerned about NATO at their borders, then surely they wouldn't have pulled troops out of NATO-surrounded Kaliningrad to fight in Ukraine.

I think it's reasonable to hold the position (which I do) that NATO has very little responsibility for Russia's unilateral decision to invade Ukraine. But even if you disagree, it's a reasonable position, no? Why all the angst?

This is exactly what I've been arguing all along, and it made them real mad.

But you are 100% correct.

Furthermore, if the main fear for Putin was an expansion of NATO bases along his borders, then starting an armed conflict was the dumbest possible way to prevent it. His invasion of Ukraine has united Europe/NATO in a way literally not seen since WWII. Finland and Sweden both joined NATO as a result of his invasion of Ukraine, significantly increasing the 'NATO borders' that are up against Russia.

Which is precisely why it's pure nonsense to suggest this was what motivated Putin to invade Ukraine. And don't get me started on the 'denazification of Ukraine' lol.

To your BRICS base analogy, I suspect Israel would react badly. But isn't Israel's history of bad reactions what people are condemning them for? So, if one holds the opinion that Russia were justified in invading Ukraine, then they would have to be OK with Israel bombing a BRICS base in Jordan and staying there, claiming land, no?

Apologies for the over-simplifications of complex geopolitics here. Just trying to make a point.

You nailed it.

 

[Val Keating]

Fair enough, I stayed out of the Devil's Chessboard because the very few times I looked, it was a cesspit.

I take issue with this, though: "but on the other hand he refuses to accept that NATO is partly responsible for the ongoing war in Ukraine because Russia doesn’t want more NATO bases close to its borders". I suggest that this is Russian propaganda - e.g. if they were truly concerned about NATO at their borders, then surely they wouldn't have pulled troops out of NATO-surrounded Kaliningrad to fight in Ukraine.

I think it's reasonable to hold the position (which I do) that NATO has very little responsibility for Russia's unilateral decision to invade Ukraine. But even if you disagree, it's a reasonable position, no? Why all the angst?

To your BRICS base analogy, I suspect Israel would react badly. But isn't Israel's history of bad reactions what people are condemning them for? So, if one holds the opinion that Russia were justified in invading Ukraine, then they would have to be OK with Israel bombing a BRICS base in Jordan and staying there, claiming land, no?

Apologies for the over-simplifications of complex geopolitics here. Just trying to make a point.

I’m not ok with Russia invading Ukraine, never have been.

 

[Chadwiko]

I’m not ok with Russia invading Ukraine, never have been.

Except you make excuses for why they did it, as we just saw. You think NATO and/or the US provoked Russia into invading, and that Russia was justified (or at least semi justified) for invading.

 

[Val Keating]

Except you make excuses for why they did it, as we just saw. You think NATO and/or the US provoked Russia into invading, and that Russia was justified (or at least semi justified) for invading.

Ffs. I’m not justifying it, I’m just looking at it from what I think is their pov. That was the whole point of the devils chessboard thread.