Grand Uncle Horace
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lol… wouldn’t survive a month
Remove Sam Newman from the Hall of Fame petition.
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lol… wouldn’t survive a month
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Not to go there but yes she definitely hates elements of Aboriginality. She is in the LNP for God's sake. That's currently their main thing.Silly racist woman, oh, wait a minute……us whiteys should ban her as well?
'Definitely divisive': Jacinta Price joins calls to scale back Welcome to Country ceremonies
Jacinta Nampijinpa Price has joined calls to scale back the use of Welcome to Country ceremonies, saying 'Australians don't need to be welcomed to their own country' and labelling the practice 'divisi...nit.com.au
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I don’t think we are in a position to say what is right or wrong with her views. She’s an indigenous woman, she tells us, we don’t tell her. Do we judge any indigenous people in the Labor Party differently? Should we? Based on their political views? Bit of a slippery slope i reckon.
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On a seperate note, i have sat on many conference calls and zoom meetings. I have often wondered when the guy does the welcome to country ceremony over the link, is it offensive to indigenous Australians who are in their different nations. So for example i am in Gunai Kurnai country, if they are gonna do it, should it be all respective nations rather than Narn etc?
I don't know, have you ever thought about whether a club could draft an actual lion?
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Lol no
Is it a Welcome to Country (led by an indigenous person) or an Acknowledgement of Country (conducted by anyone)?
Acknowledgement of Country and Welcome to Country - Reconciliation Australia
Incorporating Acknowledgement of Country and Welcome to Country into meetings, gatherings, and events shows respect by upholding Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultural protocols.www.reconciliation.org.au
Welcome to Country
Protocols for welcoming visitors to Country have always been a part of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Boundaries were clear, and crossing into another group’s Country required a request for permission to enter.
When permission was granted the hosting group would welcome the visitors, offering them safe passage and protection of their spiritual being during the journey. Visitors had to respect the protocols and rules of the land owner group while on their Country.
Today, while these protocols have been adapted to contemporary circumstances, the essential elements remain: welcoming visitors and respect for Country.
Welcome to Country is delivered by Traditional Owners, or Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples who have been given permission from Traditional Owners, to welcome visitors to their Country.
Your local Aboriginal Land Council or Native Title representative body can advise on organising a Welcome to Country by a Traditional Owner in your area.
Welcome to Country occurs at the beginning of a formal event and can take many forms including singing, dancing, smoking ceremonies, and/or a speech.
Acknowledgement of Country
An Acknowledgement of Country is an opportunity for anyone to show respect for Traditional Owners and the continuing connection of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples to Country.
An Acknowledgement of Country can be offered by any person and like a Welcome to Country, is given at the beginning of a meeting, speech or event.
There is no specific wording for an Acknowledgement of Country, just be sincere and, if possible, do some research on the Country you are acknowledging.
Suggested wording could include:
"I’d like to begin by acknowledging the Traditional Owners of the land on which we meet today. I would also like to pay my respects to Elders past and present."
"I’d like to begin by acknowledging the Traditional Owners of the land on which we meet today, the (people) of the (nation) and pay my respects to Elders past and present."
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples may also wish to acknowledge their own mob/s and other First Nations peoples present.
An Acknowledgement of Country can be expressed on behalf of an organisation in different forms of communications, such as email signature blocks, websites, and on social media, for example:
"Reconciliation Australia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of Country throughout Australia. We pay our respects to Elders past and present."
Acknowledgement of Country can be adapted and expanded to reflect different contexts. For example an author might acknowledge that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are the land’s first storytellers; or a meeting of scientists might acknowledge the contributions and sophistication of First Nations knowledges...
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the other thing of course is you accept the consequences that may arise from expressing your freedom of speech. whether that be in court, employment or halls of fame.
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Its not a challenge to believe in free speech until you have to defend the right for someone to say something vile.
Do you think locking someone up for saying mean words is a good idea?
How about just what they think?
The US is a fairly ****ed up place but a lot of their Bill of Rights and some of the later Amendments make good sense. Of course, some are bat shit crazy.
Do you think locking up deniers does anything to reduce the cause of the deniers?
Maybe we should just kill them. Its the only rational way to stop them.
Osho
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So you've spoken to her about about this matter?
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maybe but one thing i'll say about Sam - he saves you a lot of digging. I'd boot him for sure.
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And as a proud white man he is able to tell her which bits of her Aboriginality she is doing wrong.
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How Welcome To Country was created by Ernie Dingo and mates in 1976
Ernie Dingo's dance troupe came up with the new ritual in 1976 after an awkward stand-off with Maori and Cook Islanders who refused to perform at an arts festival until they were ritually welcomed.www.dailymail.co.uk
Think you need to dig a bit deeper than the Daily Mail mate
Look up ‘Aquarius festival Nimbin.’
It might not have had an official title ‘welcome to country’ but it was initiated before Ernie Dingo did anything.
And I think youll find the concept has existed among varying indigenous nations for a while
Yes, speech can and should have consequences.
If he is found guilty of breaching the racial vilification act or some other law so be it.
But he obviously won't be because this whole thing has been blown so unbelievably out of proportion by the outrage police intent on mob justice
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And funnily enough for 24 years no petitions existed
When he opposed one side of politics is the exact day the outrage and petitions began
This petition should have existed 24 years ago if your actual issue with the bloke was his racist ways
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Maybe they just discovered black face is wrong.
Having done it themselves back then as well.
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We didnt figure that out on September 28,2023. We figured that was wrong many many many years ago now and no one cared about it
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change.org started about 15 years ago. I assume there have been a few petitions about Newman.
I do find it funny though. Imagine being an internet progressive and finding yourself on the same side as the OP.
People that sook and cry about Sam Newman should be removed from society. One of the all time greats of popping up at random times to trigger SJW's. OP should just worry about where or what his next protest is going to be about
Osho
Don't f@#$ with Uncle Terry when he's been drinkin
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To quote "definitely".
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Did a quick look and he has petitions but they are because of his views against women mostly. The ones referring to his racist ways only appear to have started this month for some very strange reason....
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What if your opinion is that he is racist? Is Australia beautiful enough for someone to have that opinion ?
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Sam is a racist and should be called out every day of the week. One of the worst men I have ever had the displeasure of knowing.
