List Mgmt. Rioli to Port Discussion

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Fantasia is overs (to me - well duh) on the fact that he was contracted and a fair few years younger.

Allir Allir for a future 2nd is the closest i think. But even then AA wasnt one slip up from never playing again.


Over at Alberton we are all hoping Amon compo lands at end of 1st round/start of 2nd so close to that pick 20.



That isnt an answer to the question i asked at all? 🤷‍♂️
there seems to be this idea you guys are entitled to a discount because of the inherent risk of having him on your list, and sure if he was on the scrap heap and we were actively trying to flog him that would be a point, but that is not the case at all. we rate him highly yet can't satisfy him.
 

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There is countless trades that prove

- value of contract doesn't equal

extra value at the trade table

without even looking beyond my club, Aliir and Finlayson are examples
Both Finlayson and Aliir Aliir were both moved on to ease salary cap issues and they were both considered to be steals for Port so they are not even relevant comparisons.

West Coast will not be interested in a third round pick as its unders for a player we wished to retain, have invested a lot of resources into and has been poached with a longer contract and more money.

The general consensus throughout the media and general footballing public is it will be your compo pick for Amon. It's in both clubs interests to just get the deal done but i think today's statement from the Eagles has made one thing clear.

We will not be held ransom or look to do Junior any favours, if adequate compensation is not provided then both Junior and Port best strap themselves in because it's not a forgone conclusion he will get to your club.

Both North and Essendon have shown interest in Junior and would snap him up in an instant in the PSD and whose to say if he cries about S.A being his only destination that the Crows do not either.

I think most Eagles supporters would be more than happy to let one of those clubs have him for nothing if all we are being offered is a third round pick we won't even use. It also means we probably won't feel his absence as much as he will be lining up for a fellow rebuilding side.
 
Pretty pissed off about the news. Severely disappointed in Rioli - I think this as close to an absolute dog act as you can get.

There’s going the empathetic route when it comes to trade requests, and then there’s the simple fact that a player has stabbed you in the back. The latter has occurred here.

And I understand that Rioli was kept on the list mainly because he’s seriously good at football, but we still, even after he got banned and then went through that whole airport incident, supported him till the end. And now he just decides to leave the minute he’s offered a bigger paycheck.
 
Why does everyone think he’s leaving Port at all? It’s Sam Edmund made up media stories.
I think if you get dropped twice in a season, definitely thoughts will come back to home. No player wants to be playing reserve footy.

West Coast forward line will be richer if they can get a combo of: Oscar Allen+ Georgiades+Liam Ryan. I think the achilles with West Coast is their forwards. Its very thin in the ruck , midfield and forward departments. Kennedy gone, Darling and Jamie Cripps wont be there in probably 2 years time, and Rioli wants out. I think for West Coast they will be following Georgiades pretty closely and will be willing to pay him more than what Port Adelaide will be. Maybe Port will focus on getting Rankine as I think they are just as good a chance of landing him over the Crows?

West Coast are a chance of landing Luke Jackson but as rightly mentioned i think by Kane Cornes, Robinson, you woudlnt want to be paying overs on him.
 
I think if you get dropped twice in a season, definitely thoughts will come back to home. No player wants to be playing reserve footy.

West Coast forward line will be richer if they can get a combo of: Oscar Allen+ Georgiades+Liam Ryan. I think the achilles with West Coast is their forwards. Its very thin in the ruck , midfield and forward departments. Kennedy gone, Darling and Jamie Cripps wont be there in probably 2 years time, and Rioli wants out. I think for West Coast they will be following Georgiades pretty closely and will be willing to pay him more than what Port Adelaide will be. Maybe Port will focus on getting Rankine as I think they are just as good a chance of landing him over the Crows?

West Coast are a chance of landing Luke Jackson but as rightly mentioned i think by Kane Cornes, Robinson, you woudlnt want to be paying overs on him.


Rankine was a Crows supporter. He is going there.

I’m not even fussed about Rioli, he’s 28?

I just want Ken Hinkley out of our club. Nothing else matters.

Schofield will be keeping an eye on Mitch, live to know why he left so abruptly… ‘Ken’…
 
I think if you get dropped twice in a season, definitely thoughts will come back to home. No player wants to be playing reserve footy.

West Coast forward line will be richer if they can get a combo of: Oscar Allen+ Georgiades+Liam Ryan. I think the achilles with West Coast is their forwards. Its very thin in the ruck , midfield and forward departments. Kennedy gone, Darling and Jamie Cripps wont be there in probably 2 years time, and Rioli wants out. I think for West Coast they will be following Georgiades pretty closely and will be willing to pay him more than what Port Adelaide will be. Maybe Port will focus on getting Rankine as I think they are just as good a chance of landing him over the Crows?

West Coast are a chance of landing Luke Jackson but as rightly mentioned i think by Kane Cornes, Robinson, you woudlnt want to be paying overs on him.

Yeah dunno about our Fwds being our Achilles heel there mate, we have one of the best inside 50 conversion rate going around.
 
Rioli had a damn good 1st half of the season, and Im going to say throughout the season, he was probably Top 3 in the Eagles for 2022 - as sad as it sounds. Barrass, Josh Kennedy and Rioli. Riolis best was very good. Wouldnt surprise come Brownlow night if he polled decently for the games he played in.
 
Rankine was a Crows supporter. He is going there.

I’m not even fussed about Rioli, he’s 28?

I just want Ken Hinkley out of our club. Nothing else matters.

Schofield will be keeping an eye on Mitch, live to know why he left so abruptly… ‘Ken’…
what has Schofield got to do with Georgiades? Im assuming you mean Jarrad Schofield?
 
To further the point, 51 games, 1 premiership, 2 yr doping ban, injury prone, well loved but problematic character,
should wce get current market value with a trade, good for them. Could not envision Jr Rioli playing 52 games at Port.
yes they should get a good trade.Unlike gws and other teams who are unloading players for salary cap relief the eagles don't want to lose him.Port wants him and Rioli wants to go.As Jerry Mcguire said show me a decent pick.
 
Rioli had a damn good 1st half of the season, and Im going to say throughout the season, he was probably Top 3 in the Eagles for 2022 - as sad as it sounds. Barrass, Josh Kennedy and Rioli. Riolis best was very good. Wouldnt surprise come Brownlow night if he polled decently for the games he played in.

Okay you're smoking some of Willie's stash.
 

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Okay you're smoking some of Willie's stash.
Watch this space come Brownlow night. He will easily poll in the top 3 in West Coast votes- easily.


Josh Kennedy, Barrass, and Rioli in no particular order.

I know Rioli played what 13 games this season and I find him a more effective small forward than : Liam Ryan, Jamie Cripps, Petruccelle , Zac Langdon. If you take out Josh Kennedy and Willie Rioli, you need to start look for replacements and they wont be easy to find especially in a team that is struggling.

Riolis best is very very good, and he could play the Karl Amon at Port Adelaide , as he spent a fair amount of time in West Coasts midfield when he played there this season.
 
It struck me as an out of touch, arrogant CEO realising he didn't know everything he thought he did and not liking it.


It seems pretty clear from that statement Nisbett thought he owed west coast and would never leave. As you say its the impotent rage of someone who has their own world view and has had reality sneak up and kick them in the ass.

If I had to make a wild and completely unsourced prediction, there was a point recently where Rioli's manager went to west coast and said 'just so you know we're being offered X'... and Nisbett told them to get ****ed and Rioli should be grateful to even have a contract.
 
there seems to be this idea you guys are entitled to a discount because of the inherent risk of having him on your list, and sure if he was on the scrap heap and we were actively trying to flog him that would be a point, but that is not the case at all. we rate him highly yet can't satisfy him.
The counter argument to this is that you don't rate him as much as Port (or high enough to satisfy him) (obviously)

nor enough to get him signed up prior to the end of his last contract year, will be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
Both Finlayson and Aliir Aliir were both moved on to ease salary cap issues and they were both considered to be steals for Port so they are not even relevant comparisons.

West Coast will not be interested in a third round pick as its unders for a player we wished to retain, have invested a lot of resources into and has been poached with a longer contract and more money.

The general consensus throughout the media and general footballing public is it will be your compo pick for Amon. It's in both clubs interests to just get the deal done but i think today's statement from the Eagles has made one thing clear.

We will not be held ransom or look to do Junior any favours, if adequate compensation is not provided then both Junior and Port best strap themselves in because it's not a forgone conclusion he will get to your club.

Both North and Essendon have shown interest in Junior and would snap him up in an instant in the PSD and whose to say if he cries about S.A being his only destination that the Crows do not either.

I think most Eagles supporters would be more than happy to let one of those clubs have him for nothing if all we are being offered is a third round pick we won't even use. It also means we probably won't feel his absence as much as he will be lining up for a fellow rebuilding side.
I think you'll find lots of Port fans not too annoyed if he goes the PSD route and port miss out if they dont pay overs too. I can certainly think of better ways to spend 2 mill over 4 years
 
It seems pretty clear from that statement Nisbett thought he owed west coast and would never leave. As you say its the impotent rage of someone who has their own world view and has had reality sneak up and kick them in the ass.

If I had to make a wild and completely unsourced prediction, there was a point recently where Rioli's manager went to west coast and said 'just so you know we're being offered X'... and Nisbett told them to get *ed and Rioli should be grateful to even have a contract.



What's more likely.


We tell him to get ****ed and he should be grateful to have a contract.

or

We weren't prepared to offer a four year deal without substantial clauses to a player who has had multiple issues.


Considering the language of todays statement i'd say it's clear we wanted to keep Junior so therefore the second option seems more plausible.
 
I think you'll find lots of Port fans not too annoyed if he goes the PSD route and port miss out if they dont pay overs too. I can certainly think of better ways to spend 2 mill over 4 years

Best your supporters pass it on to the club then because clearly they see things differently based upon how hard he was chased and how much they have offered.
 
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“Junior has made his decision and while he has indicated Port is his preferred destination we will work to get the best outcome for our club.”

I wonder if the Eagles are talking to Adelaide
 
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