AFL Autopsy Round 1, 2019: Flogging from GWS

[Haychh]

AFL have confirmed that they are incorrect, yeah.

The fact it wouldn't surprise anyone if they were accurate is an indictment on yesterday's performance, however.

Ahh well there you go. I'm very slightly less disappointed

 

[Lore]

early momentum can go along way to dictating the result of football games

So does clean disposal

 

[Mootsy]

I haven't yet been able to put into words that performance yesterday. I never bought into the "top 4 side" bullshit but I didn't think it could get as bad as that, in hindsight I probably should have.

Has anyone came out and confirmed if those GPS numbers were correct or not? If so that is an absolute disgrace

I actually hate the fact that I'm stuck supporting this club...

The players were just lazy. Possibly because of the culture at this time, who knows. Heppell even said it himself, be patient. A short way of saying, we aren’t there yet.

I’d say it’s a lack of on field leadership and lack of maturity. Even if youre not a magician footballer, all these guys have to do is put in 100% effort on the ground for 1.5 hours in the week and something will happen, you just need the whole team to have that mindset. This means constant running, constant effort. Good grasp of natural skills.

My theory is that Goddard was the shadow captain and Heppell is lacking mature/motivated players to help sometimes.

Another issue is, there is a reason why hard workers, farmers etc, play good football, they are workaholics, and if a player isn’t really invested in a sport with passion, it’ll show in their game.

Guys don’t communicate, hopefully the club has a good open policy on talking about what is and isn’t working, amongst the entire crew, it’d solve any problem quicker than pretending.

 

[VelvetSledge]

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

I need a ranter for this week. I can't imagine that we would be short of angry people. Feel free to go insane and blast the shit out of the club, the players, the coaches, I couldn't care less. Get angry.

Shoot me through a PM if you want to write a piece, and it'll appear in the Game Day thread this week. Alongside 374598023 "f**k"s from me.

This f***ing club.

 

[Lore]

Cross referenced the Giants' scoring players against their player list on their website during the first quarter break. Their two main goal kickers were Cameron and Keeffe - 196 and 204cm respectively. Our tallest defenders yesterday - Francis, Ridley, Hurley, Ambrose - are all 192/193cm. Two others that had shots at goal were also over 193cm, though they didn't convert much or often and are probably tall mids or something. Also solid contributions and plenty of supply from Taranto, Hopper and Coniglio on their side. Lucky them lol

Harvey in the from the coach segment said they weren't expecting Keeffe to play forward (something about his injury), so basically we aren't tall enough in defence without Hooker. Hartley doesn't mark anything anyway so not sure if he's helpful in that sense, though he is at least tall enough to spoil the bloody marks.

At the other end, Langford (191) Stringer (192) Francis (193) and Baguley (178) are our only goal kickers. The talls that we were trying to bomb it to (Brown and McKernan) are both 196 and had one mark inside 50 between them all day.

Not sure if I'm misremembering, but Brown may have been sent back to plug the gaps in defence, which leaves us with no one to bomb it to besides the ghost of Alwyn Davey.

 

[citizen-erased]

AFL have confirmed that they are incorrect, yeah.

The fact it wouldn't surprise anyone if they were accurate is an indictment on yesterday's performance, however.

Just said the same thing on the board

Maybe its better if the data was right. Cos i'd love to know what ground we were covering if we weren't that far off the mark.

 

[Mootsy]

also? is the team being coached to see strong marking, kicking goals, winning possession as being enjoyable and appealing. A team walking to the ground itching to play because of reward based football, makes sense to me.

 

[VelvetSledge]

I'm hoping the media fire reigning down on the players spurs them on.

Egh.

 

[Mootsy]

I'm hoping the media fire reigning down on the players spurs them on.

Egh.

That’s negative reward, positive reward is internal, coaching, players having good leadership and wanting to learn the game. Clubs have to be very positive, because they get so much criticism outside.

 

[Howard Moon]

That’s negative reward, positive reward is internal, coaching, players having good leadership and wanting to learn the game. Clubs have to be very positive, because they get so much criticism outside.

I use a reward chart for my kids, maybe I can send one over to tulla

hit 5 targets and you get a star, get 5 stars and ill buy you a lego set or lol ball

 

[Eleven 38]

We had the F50 entries but a lot of the time they were straight to GWS players or into space. Zaharakis is really good at picking out opposition defenders.

I dont want to really single out anyone after yesterday as everyone was shit.

However Zaharakis needs to be banned from kicking inside 50s, I'd honestly rather him trip over and lose the ball out of bounds than kick it into the 50. I reckon 3 out of 4 end up clangers, and because our mids aren't great at transition from attack to defence it almost always end up in a score the other way.

 

[Lore]

Stringer's goal came from a soccered rebound in congestion by Saad, scrappy down the wing and GWS got the ball back but fumbled it on our 50m line, Walla crumbs it, dishes it off to Stringer who kicks it through.

We needed so much more of that, if they are playing tall we should have been playing to the strengths of the smalls more often.

 

[MightyDon]

This game was so poor with percentage we are basically now two games behind

 

[Lore]

Our second goal comes from Langford.

Rebound from a missed shot by GWS. Hurley kicks out to the wing, McKernan tries to mark it and gets shoved under the flight of the ball, which goes to ground. Smith crumbs it with Langford supporting and keeping his man out of the contest, Smith to Shiel and a clearing kick out to Baguley, everyone now streaming down the wing and GWS manning up. Baguley to Langford, to McGrath, all three outpacing their men. McGrath passes back to Baguley who by this time has drawn Brown's man back to the wing. Bags centres it to Brown who is in space 45m out from goal. Brown then passes it back to Langford, who slots it.

Langford good. Smith2Shiel good once the ball has been brought to ground. Disposal clean. Running good. Faster than GWS helps pick holes in their defence.

 

[schmuttt]

Football is a stupid sport. Spend all preseason getting excited by your team then they come out and play like shit and put you in a bad mood.

 

[Lore]

Football is a stupid sport. Spend all preseason getting excited by your team then they come out and play like shit and put you in a bad mood.

go bombers

 

[pepsi]

Football is a stupid sport. Spend all preseason getting excited by your team then they come out and play like shit and put you in a bad mood.

Yep. And when you put in a performance like us, where so much is wrong and where your preseason has been less than inspiring, it just gives you a feeling of despair.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

I’m still angry.

As Lloyd said on Acess All Areas if they don’t come out breathing fire against St.Kilda there will be cultural issues.

 

[Beerfish]

I’m still angry.

As Lloyd said on Acess All Areas if they don’t come out breathing against St.Kilda there will be cultural issues.

I'd say breathing is the bare minimum we'd expect.

 

[VelvetSledge]

I’m still angry.

As Lloyd said on Acess All Areas if they don’t come out breathing against St.Kilda there will be cultural issues.

There'll be more than cultural issues, they will be dead.

 

[Mercurial89]

I'm hoping the media fire reigning down on the players spurs them on.

Egh.

It's also possible that the fumbling, the sluggishness the poor form in general was a result of playing the game in their heads too much.
We could get a situation where we get a correction of the players trying too hard to make things work resulting in further bad form.

Pretty interested to see how we respond. This is the game we usually would drop. After a round 1 demolition what will happen?

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

It's also possible that the fumbling, the sluggishness the poor form in general was a result of playing the game in their heads too much.
We could get a situation where we get a correction of the players trying too hard to make things work resulting in further bad form.

Pretty interested to see how we respond. This is the game we usually would drop. After a round 1 demolition what will happen?

I'm not expecting much of a response tbh. The blow torch will be applied to the Guelfis and Ambroses of the team for their poor game while the established senior players will have a free pass for their mediocrity and lack of care as per usual.

 

[Atavistic]

Do we have anyone like Ben Brown who can flop forward just as the ball is coming into the F50 and draw a free kick? I mean, Daniher tries his best but doesn't win the free.

 

[Lore]

I'm not expecting much of a response tbh. The blow torch will be applied to the Guelfis and Ambroses of the team for their poor game while the established senior players will have a free pass for their mediocrity and lack of care as per usual.

The switch was flipped in round 8 last year after the leadership group and senior players manned up and took responsibility for it. If we're expecting a switch to be flipped after round 1 then we need for the team to again take responsibility, collectively, for that result. And that means most likely going in unchanged.

 

[Bombers_95]

The silver lining here guys is that its round one and I don't think we could have played any worse than that yesterday. Most gutless and spiritless performance I've seen since that Saints game in 2015 when they players gave up and Hirdy copped the sack. Coaches have to come down hard at selection and during the week in the review to let the players know that what they dished up is simply not acceptable, we can't continue to see these games as "learning experiences". This list is one of the best I've seen us put together for a long time so its clearly hunger and mindset from the players to actually have a crack on game day. If older players like Brown, McKernan, Baugley, Myers, Zaharakis etc don't show this hunger on the track or in the next few games then younger players have to be given the opportunity. Easy to look at Port Adelaide who debut 4 players, play a game style based off playing on quick and high pressure which would work wonders for us and they beat a premiership fancy away from home.

I also must add that I hope the coaching staff aren't trying to re-invent the wheel too much with the game plan. The way we played in the second half of last year with the addition of Fantasia, Daniher and Shiel plus continual improvement from the young kids will see us come good this year. Trying to bring in new defence mechanisms is important but not as much as at the cost of our offence which on its day is one of the best in the comp.