Preview Round 1 2022- Hawks v Roos MCG - Sunday March 20- 1.10pm

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Engimal v3 said:
Is GA seated this year again? I have a seat number on my ticket from my membership, but unsure if that's relevant.
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We recommend getting to the game nice and early to ensure you have enough time to get to your seat. As this is a replacement game you have General Admission access please ignore the seating information on your mobile membership card for Round 1. You can sit in any of the below bays:

Level 1
Ponsford Stand - M30 - M31

Level 4
Southern Stand - Q1-Q15½
Ponsford Stand - Q29 - Q36
Olympic Stand Q49 (rows K-MM)
Olympic Stand - Q50 - Q51
Olympic Stand - Q52 (rows K-MM)
Olympic Stand Q53 - Q57
 

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giantroo said:
We recommend getting to the game nice and early to ensure you have enough time to get to your seat. As this is a replacement game you have General Admission access please ignore the seating information on your mobile membership card for Round 1. You can sit in any of the below bays:

Level 1
Ponsford Stand - M30 - M31

Level 4
Southern Stand - Q1-Q15½
Ponsford Stand - Q29 - Q36
Olympic Stand Q49 (rows K-MM)
Olympic Stand - Q50 - Q51
Olympic Stand - Q52 (rows K-MM)
Olympic Stand Q53 - Q57
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Cheers. Do you know if that extends to GA at Marvel? Sounds like it, but the wording is a little strange.
 
DuckYeah said:
Midfield spots are going to get red hot considering the influx of talent injected into the squad over the last 2 years. Its healthy competition. If Powell isnt picked and we win and it makes Tom strive for another level, its only healthy.
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Exactly mate. Plus he is a second year player, perhaps he needs a kick up the bum? We don't know, Noble does. It is not as though he has dropped Jy...
 
Jasemon said:
Thank you Horace, sanity prevails. Best explanation so far to the hysteria that has rained down here in BF since the team announcement.

Also as other's noted, Powell's direct competition right now are Polec and Scott. I can't recall the Melbourne game (trainwrecks will do that to you) however in the Swan's game both Polec and Scott out performed Powell across the duration of the game. Don't get me wrong Powelly had some special moments but the other two had more impact throughout.

I'm also disappointed he won't be gracing the G on Sunday however we want our coach and match committee to be selecting sides on player's form and structure to fit the game plan required against the opposition on the day, not on potential. We all know Tom's going to be a star but just not this week.
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Spot on. Noone should be gifted games. Sends a terrible message. Pick the best side every week. Scott and Polec have comfortably outperformed him in preseason. Plus he missed the 2nd half of next season. A spell in the VFL will do him the world of good. He will win his spot back through hard work and dedication.
 
Tom green first half thanks @jhf
 

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Jasemon said:
Thank you Horace, sanity prevails. Best explanation so far to the hysteria that has rained down here in BF since the team announcement.

Also as other's noted, Powell's direct competition right now are Polec and Scott. I can't recall the Melbourne game (trainwrecks will do that to you) however in the Swan's game both Polec and Scott out performed Powell across the duration of the game. Don't get me wrong Powelly had some special moments but the other two had more impact throughout.

I'm also disappointed he won't be gracing the G on Sunday however we want our coach and match committee to be selecting sides on player's form and structure to fit the game plan required against the opposition on the day, not on potential. We all know Tom's going to be a star but just not this week.
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Polec did not outperform Powell against swans he got ripped apart by mcinerny who was bog

We need to be getting games into Powell and closing the door shut on polec
 
Had a grouse day at work today.

Was serving a family that were down from Albury, I asked the wife what she was down here for the weekend for whilst the father and son went to try something on, she said she was down to watch the footy, and I ask “which game?” She whispers “north vs hawks” I go “ omg me too!” And we found out we both go for north and it was awesome because I’ve never met a customer who goes for north hahahahahahaha it was so good. We were talking how we might be a chance hehehe
 
Liam Boy said:
remember the last time we asked lachie young to play tall?
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Recently transitioned into a new role at my workplace and one of my Dogs supporting mates gave me a gift with a cup inside. Guess what was on it?

It was the bloody spud's stats against us in that massacre. Honestly, I was more impressed than suffering from PTSD.
 
AFL news 2022: Hawthorn v North Melbourne, Mick Malthouse preview, why it’s a blockbuster, Round 1


It’s the non-blockbuster that has as much intrigue and excitement as a genuine
blockbuster. Hawthorn versus North Melbourne.

A first-year coach taking on a second-year coach, with personalities that appear to be miles apart, and I suspect, coaching philosophies that are just as different.


David Noble has four wins, 17 losses and a draw to his name so far. North Melbourne lost the first eight games of last season before, to his credit, Noble dropped the notion that his team had to play like the Brisbane Lions and changed the game style to better suit the Kangaroos’ strengths.

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It worked, and their first win came against Hawthorn in a tight tussle in Tasmania, before a competitive second half of the year.
Noble will further need to nurture his team for a while, to turn genuine potential into progress and eventually, success.
Sam Mitchell, 39, will most likely coach the way he played.
The second-year coach in David Noble v the first-year coach in Sam Mitchell.
The second-year coach in David Noble v the first-year coach in Sam Mitchell.

He was a ball hunter, an extremely talented and gifted deliverer of the ball by hand and foot. He played the majority of his career in the middle, and some would argue he had little appreciation for the defensive side of his game.

Outside of being awarded Hawthorn’s best and fairest six times, he captained the club in the 2008 premiership, also in 2009 and 2010. Remarkably, even as a highly decorated player he was replaced by Luke Hodge as captain in 2011.

So the interest comes today in how both coaches’ strategies and techniques stack up against each other.

Hawthorn v North - who wins in round 1?​


Pre-season form hasn’t revealed a lot about either club. Though what is of note, is the recruiting that has and hasn’t taken place at both North and Hawthorn.

North Melbourne lost Robbie Tarrant through free agency to Richmond but drafted Jason Horne-Francis who is a reputed superstar in the making. It also picked up Callum Coleman-Jones from Richmond and Hugh Greenwood from Gold Coast.
Top draft pick Jaon Horne-Francis is all ready a hit at Arden St. Picture: Getty Images
Top draft pick Jason Horne-Francis is all ready a hit at Arden St. Picture: Getty Images

It was well documented that Mitchell wanted a big run at the draft and the only way that could transpire was to offer up key players of value for trade.

Best and fairest Tom Mitchell, Jaeger O’Meara, and Chad Wingard were all offered up with Jack Gunston and Luke Breust.

Nothing came off, so how the ramifications of this plays out over the journey will be interesting.

Shaun Burgoyne retired, Jonathon Ceglar went to Geelong, and Tim O’Brien to the Western Bulldogs, with Max Lynch joining the Hawks from Collingwood.

It appears that Mitchell wanted as big a change as possible from the Alastair Clarkson era, perhaps making a statement that he doesn’t believe the current team can win a premiership.

Both teams will start this season working from the bottom up.

While the Hawks will need their older, more experienced players to perform to make any headwind, there are some really promising signs for North with their younger players.

As exciting as number one draft pick Jason Horne-Francis is, he could do without a ton of pressure because very rarely does a first-round draftee have any bearing on where his club finishes in his first year, simply by not having the capacity to change the course of the season.

Chris Judd and Matthew Pavlich are perhaps two players to have had a small influence on where their clubs finished in their first year of playing.

It’s the old versus the new, with both Hawthorn and North Melbourne led by real gladiators in Ben McEvoy and Jack Ziebell, who leave nothing on the field every time they play. Each is having less current effect on outcomes, but they are still trusted and proven leaders.
Nick Larkey’s 42 goals last year adds class to North’s forward line, while I am very impressed in Tarryn Thomas who is an absolute cracker of a player.

Best and fairest Jy Simpkin, Jack Mahony, Luke Davies-Uniacke, Will Phillips, Todd Goldstein, and Ben McKay — who will fill Tarrant’s leadership role and become the key back — will all play a significant role in ensuring North is very competitive this year.

It’s taken a long time for the penny to drop for Aaron Hall, but running well off the backline, with Cameron Zurhaar, certainly adds value to the team. Because they will really miss Ben Cunnington until he returns from his cancer treatment.

North’s younger midfield will be opposed to Hawthorn’s Mitchell, O’Meara, Liam Shiels and James Worpel — vastly different in age and experience, and highly effective.

The Hawks will be strengthened by the return of James Sicily. He is a freakish player and fundamental to Hawthorn’s success.

Jacob Koschitzke and Dylan Moore’s 27 goals each from 20 games last year is a boost to the forward line which has relied heavily on Breust and Gunston in the past.

Jarman Impey is an important player having now fully recovered from a knee injury, and Changkuoth Jiath is also impressive and developing into a fine running back.

As predicted, Covid will play a negative role on this season, already affecting Hawthorn for round 1.

It’s a baptism of fire for Sam Mitchell who is already carrying the unwarranted burden of proving right Jeff Kennett’s decision to appoint him as Clarkson’s replacement and dealing with the aftermath of a messy trade period.

The Hawks’ last entrance into the eight was in 2018, just once playing finals in the last five years. For all intents and purposes, it won’t be a quick turnaround.

How will Hawthorn perform under Mitchell?
What game style is he looking for – will it be distinctly different to Clarkson’s? I can’t see it being the same.

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How will hyped up Horne-Francis handle the heat?

There may be more questions after today’s game than answers, but one thing that’s certain is that if today’s game is like last year’s clash, we’re in for an incidental blockbuster.

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DuckYeah said:
Hally last year wasn’t that bad with his disposal.
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It is almost like we gave him a role where he would attack the corridor at all costs on transition.

If it wasn't for him last year, guarantee you we don't win as many games. There's a highlights package of the kicks he was hitting but oh no when a kick misses the target (bound to miss some taking the game on) he is turnover king.
 
amaz199 said:
It is almost like we gave him a role where he would attack the corridor at all costs on transition.

If it wasn't for him last year, guarantee you we don't win as many games. There's a highlights package of the kicks he was hitting but oh no when a kick misses the target (bound to miss some taking the game on) he is turnover king.
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I am banned from the Aaron page.. so If I am complementary to his game.. firstly I am eating some eggs and secondly I am fair on criticism.

I also gave Aaron an almighty spray against Adelaide last year. He ****ing heard me too. gave him a “you are better than that Aaron, stop ****ing around with the ****ing aggot campaigner, use the ****ing thing” - I like to think I was the catalyst to his turn in form however it’s incredibly unlikely 😂
 
shintemaster said:
Genuinely puzzled by the shock - he looked like he was coming from way back in the pre season games I saw. He's <20 years old and might need the odd run before he demands a spot. There needs to be some eye on results now and the long game - putting every talented <20 in the team is just nonsense. I have no doubt he'll be back within the first handful of rounds if his fitness builds.

FWIW the team haven't run out yet either, a lot of stress over one 19 year old in the first round of the year.
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Spot on. This notion that player development cannot occur in the VFL is complete bunkum IMO. Far better to let him build his form and confidence in the VFL. You can almost guarantee that the same posters that are howling about his non inclusion now will turn on him in a heartbeat if he has a poor AFL game.....'we can't develop players etc etc.
 
amaz199 said:
Recently transitioned into a new role at my workplace and one of my Dogs supporting mates gave me a gift with a cup inside. Guess what was on it?

It was the bloody spud's stats against us in that massacre. Honestly, I was more impressed than suffering from PTSD.
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gotta find something to celebrate in a year where you lose the grand final i guess
 
I for one am excited to see how Young goes playing predominantly back, better suited there than the wing.

We were too tall with three rucks in my opinion. No Walker allows us a bit of flexibility to have one of X / Goldy dropping back to provide a bit of height.

To be honest, we should be phasing out Josh in any case.
 
giantroo said:
AFL news 2022: Hawthorn v North Melbourne, Mick Malthouse preview, why it’s a blockbuster, Round 1


It’s the non-blockbuster that has as much intrigue and excitement as a genuine
blockbuster. Hawthorn versus North Melbourne.

A first-year coach taking on a second-year coach, with personalities that appear to be miles apart, and I suspect, coaching philosophies that are just as different.


David Noble has four wins, 17 losses and a draw to his name so far. North Melbourne lost the first eight games of last season before, to his credit, Noble dropped the notion that his team had to play like the Brisbane Lions and changed the game style to better suit the Kangaroos’ strengths.

.




It worked, and their first win came against Hawthorn in a tight tussle in Tasmania, before a competitive second half of the year.
Noble will further need to nurture his team for a while, to turn genuine potential into progress and eventually, success.
Sam Mitchell, 39, will most likely coach the way he played.
The second-year coach in David Noble v the first-year coach in Sam Mitchell.
The second-year coach in David Noble v the first-year coach in Sam Mitchell.

He was a ball hunter, an extremely talented and gifted deliverer of the ball by hand and foot. He played the majority of his career in the middle, and some would argue he had little appreciation for the defensive side of his game.

Outside of being awarded Hawthorn’s best and fairest six times, he captained the club in the 2008 premiership, also in 2009 and 2010. Remarkably, even as a highly decorated player he was replaced by Luke Hodge as captain in 2011.

So the interest comes today in how both coaches’ strategies and techniques stack up against each other.

Hawthorn v North - who wins in round 1?​


Pre-season form hasn’t revealed a lot about either club. Though what is of note, is the recruiting that has and hasn’t taken place at both North and Hawthorn.

North Melbourne lost Robbie Tarrant through free agency to Richmond but drafted Jason Horne-Francis who is a reputed superstar in the making. It also picked up Callum Coleman-Jones from Richmond and Hugh Greenwood from Gold Coast.
Top draft pick Jaon Horne-Francis is all ready a hit at Arden St. Picture: Getty Images
Top draft pick Jason Horne-Francis is all ready a hit at Arden St. Picture: Getty Images

It was well documented that Mitchell wanted a big run at the draft and the only way that could transpire was to offer up key players of value for trade.

Best and fairest Tom Mitchell, Jaeger O’Meara, and Chad Wingard were all offered up with Jack Gunston and Luke Breust.

Nothing came off, so how the ramifications of this plays out over the journey will be interesting.

Shaun Burgoyne retired, Jonathon Ceglar went to Geelong, and Tim O’Brien to the Western Bulldogs, with Max Lynch joining the Hawks from Collingwood.

It appears that Mitchell wanted as big a change as possible from the Alastair Clarkson era, perhaps making a statement that he doesn’t believe the current team can win a premiership.

Both teams will start this season working from the bottom up.

While the Hawks will need their older, more experienced players to perform to make any headwind, there are some really promising signs for North with their younger players.

As exciting as number one draft pick Jason Horne-Francis is, he could do without a ton of pressure because very rarely does a first-round draftee have any bearing on where his club finishes in his first year, simply by not having the capacity to change the course of the season.

Chris Judd and Matthew Pavlich are perhaps two players to have had a small influence on where their clubs finished in their first year of playing.

It’s the old versus the new, with both Hawthorn and North Melbourne led by real gladiators in Ben McEvoy and Jack Ziebell, who leave nothing on the field every time they play. Each is having less current effect on outcomes, but they are still trusted and proven leaders.
Nick Larkey’s 42 goals last year adds class to North’s forward line, while I am very impressed in Tarryn Thomas who is an absolute cracker of a player.

Best and fairest Jy Simpkin, Jack Mahony, Luke Davies-Uniacke, Will Phillips, Todd Goldstein, and Ben McKay — who will fill Tarrant’s leadership role and become the key back — will all play a significant role in ensuring North is very competitive this year.

It’s taken a long time for the penny to drop for Aaron Hall, but running well off the backline, with Cameron Zurhaar, certainly adds value to the team. Because they will really miss Ben Cunnington until he returns from his cancer treatment.

North’s younger midfield will be opposed to Hawthorn’s Mitchell, O’Meara, Liam Shiels and James Worpel — vastly different in age and experience, and highly effective.

The Hawks will be strengthened by the return of James Sicily. He is a freakish player and fundamental to Hawthorn’s success.

Jacob Koschitzke and Dylan Moore’s 27 goals each from 20 games last year is a boost to the forward line which has relied heavily on Breust and Gunston in the past.

Jarman Impey is an important player having now fully recovered from a knee injury, and Changkuoth Jiath is also impressive and developing into a fine running back.

As predicted, Covid will play a negative role on this season, already affecting Hawthorn for round 1.

It’s a baptism of fire for Sam Mitchell who is already carrying the unwarranted burden of proving right Jeff Kennett’s decision to appoint him as Clarkson’s replacement and dealing with the aftermath of a messy trade period.

The Hawks’ last entrance into the eight was in 2018, just once playing finals in the last five years. For all intents and purposes, it won’t be a quick turnaround.

How will Hawthorn perform under Mitchell?
What game style is he looking for – will it be distinctly different to Clarkson’s? I can’t see it being the same.

​

How will hyped up Horne-Francis handle the heat?

There may be more questions after today’s game than answers, but one thing that’s certain is that if today’s game is like last year’s clash, we’re in for an incidental blockbuster.

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This article is extremely North.
 
Gee some seem to have lost their mind since the team was announced.

If you want to win, you need some experienced players in the team.

Make sure you have enough experience in the team, select your best players, and then the rest is about match ups.

If you’re comparing one bloke over another who was of the last picked in the 22, these are the match up blokes and not your best players.


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com
 
amaz199 said:
It is almost like we gave him a role where he would attack the corridor at all costs on transition.

If it wasn't for him last year, guarantee you we don't win as many games. There's a highlights package of the kicks he was hitting but oh no when a kick misses the target (bound to miss some taking the game on) he is turnover king.
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Agree with all of that. Unfortunately, Hall isn't the first player to cop the Bigfooty confirmation bias treatment and he won't be the last.

I don't mind people pointing out the missed targets as long as any attendant hand-wringing is weighed against the difficult kicks that he's successfully executed. In Hall's case, often while running at top speed. Some mention of the fact that every year the league's best and most creative players tend to dominate the upper tiers of the clangers and turnover stat tables would be nice, also.
 
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