Game Day Round 1, 2023: West Coast Eagles vs North Melbourne - “A Walk in the Park”

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It isnt. If it was we wouldnt have won many games in the past 10 years.

Teams need to win the battle in two out of three areas. Defense, mid or forward.

I also dont see a super dominate midfield against us v North and we could break even in that area. WC Phil's posted he thought we we will be dominated in the midfield, interesting to see how that pans out. I can see the better teams beating our midfield, at times convincingly if we lack intent, but North isnt there just yet.

We are massive unknowns at this stage, more than any other side IMO.

The pessimist in me though is expecting a finish around 15 or16th.
It is won or lost in the midfield in my opinion
 

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It isnt. If it was we wouldnt have won many games in the past 10 years.

Teams need to win the battle in two out of three areas. Defense, mid or forward.

I also dont see a super dominate midfield against us v North and we could break even in that area. WC Phil's posted he thought we we will be dominated in the midfield, interesting to see how that pans out. I can see the better teams beating our midfield, at times convincingly if we lack intent, but North isnt there just yet.

We are massive unknowns at this stage, more than any other side IMO.

The pessimist in me though is expecting a finish around 15 or16th.

Agreed, similarly Richmond and peak Hawthorn were never world beaters in the midfield.

Simpson in his time as coach has never had a top tier midfield.

It's why we have developed the styles we have had, to fit our strengths.

It's easy to say 'value the groundball, focus on contested footy, move the ball quickly by hand', but if you don't have the cattle intent counts for FA.

That's changing now, we're drafting mids with size and/or speed. Things need to change accordingly.

But we won't be a Wish copy of 'the current thing'. That's for loser clubs like Essendon.
 
Ryan Daniels reporting that Culley pulled up sore after the Adelaide practice match and has been managed since.

That still sounds a little dubious
1) there was no mention of this in our injury report (but given how the club goes about this, that's not surprising)
And
2) if that's the case, why he is playing in the practice match this weekend, and, played in the second scratch match in the reserves after the crows game? And, appears to have been training this week completely unhindered?

It still seems sus to me
 
That still sounds a little dubious
1) there was no mention of this in our injury report (but given how the club goes about this, that's not surprising)
And
2) if that's the case, why he is playing in the practice match this weekend, and, played in the second scratch match in the reserves after the crows game? And, appears to have been training this week completely unhindered?

It still seems sus to me

Rhino also said “some chance he plays managed mins in the WAFL”. That chance seems pretty high seeing he’s been named in the middle.

Culley didn’t play v Crows so I’m not sure whether this “pulling up sore” is supposed to have happened after the reserves match that followed the Crows game, or the previous week vs the Power. Unless he pulled up sore from watching the Crows game, I know I had a fair amount of soreness in the hand region from thumping my chair after that game.

And I think we all know why it wasn’t in the injury report on Tuesday. Because it didn’t absolutely have to be, so they didn’t put it in.
 
And I think we all know why it wasn’t in the injury report on Tuesday. Because it didn’t absolutely have to be, so they didn’t put it in.
MAybe it wasnt reported because its not an injury? Wild I know.

Cant wait for the pile onto the S&C team now they are taking a cautions management approach early in the season.
 
Culley pulled up a bit sore after being abducted by aliens and anally probed

That’s only a little less wild a conspiracy theory than some being trotted out at the moment
 
Culley pulled up a bit sore after being abducted by aliens and anally probed

That’s only a little less wild a conspiracy theory than some being trotted out at the moment
Health protocols is to Covid as General Soreness is to rectal bruising.
 

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MAybe it wasnt reported because its not an injury? Wild I know.

Cant wait for the pile onto the S&C team now they are taking a cautions management approach early in the season.

Very happy for them to take a cautious approach with an important young midfielder.

It’d be nice if we could know about it without him being talked up during the pre-season, suddenly getting a lesser role without any explanation, not named or mentioned when the teams come out on the Thursday, resulting in a whole heap of questions and speculation among fans - which has involved everything from injury to contract dispute to discipline to simply falling out of favour - before the situation eventually gets clarified by someone external to the club.

A simple “Culley (soreness) - Test” on Tuesday would have avoided all of that.
 
Rhino also said “some chance he plays managed mins in the WAFL”. That chance seems pretty high seeing he’s been named in the middle.

Culley didn’t play v Crows so I’m not sure whether this “pulling up sore” is supposed to have happened after the reserves match that followed the Crows game, or the previous week vs the Power. Unless he pulled up sore from watching the Crows game, I know I had a fair amount of soreness in the hand region from thumping my chair after that game.

And I think we all know why it wasn’t in the injury report on Tuesday. Because it didn’t absolutely have to be, so they didn’t put it in.

I reckon Rhino is talking about the post-Crows scratchie the teams had. But I can't help wonder if playing him for a half against Port then parking him for 60-90min and trying to get him going again in the post-Port scratchie was a great idea. That might be where a niggle started and could have led to a quiet week on the training track, movement into the possibles instead of the probables, and now missing R1.
 
Very happy for them to take a cautious approach with an important young midfielder.

It’d be nice if we could know about it without him being talked up during the pre-season, suddenly getting a lesser role without any explanation, not named or mentioned when the teams come out on the Thursday, resulting in a whole heap of questions and speculation among fans - which has involved everything from injury to contract dispute to discipline to simply falling out of favour - before the situation eventually gets clarified by someone external to the club.

A simple “Culley (soreness) - Test” on Tuesday would have avoided all of that.
Yeah reasonable enough.
I wasn't referring to you re the S&C team, just the usual suspects that love an S&C pile on and will harp on the same point in a slightly different way a dozen times a day.
 
I reckon Rhino is talking about the post-Crows scratchie the teams had. But I can't help wonder if playing him for a half against Port then parking him for 60-90min and trying to get him going again in the post-Port scratchie was a great idea. That might be where a niggle started and could have led to a quiet week on the training track, movement into the possibles instead of the probables, and now missing R1.

He was on a bike keeping warm for the majority of that second half against Port that he sat out
 
He was on a bike keeping warm for the majority of that second half against Port that he sat out

I do recall that being mentioned, but it would be difficult to keep to the playing level of warmth just rolling the legs over on the bike. Give it herbs and your legs blow up before you run out next.

Did anyone else do this random stop-start between Port games? Waterman played both but came on during the second half of game one, which is much easier to manage.

I'm circling it as a weird thing that could have easily created a niggle, even if he didn't warm up stretch again for the second match because he'd been on the bike.
 
What happens when midfields break even?
Then we will probably win because we have an above average defences and forwards obviously.
Our last practice game against Adelaide was a good example, yes our defence played well but eventually the sheer weight of ball coming forward, broke the dam walls.
Losing centre bounce clearances is what so often puts us on the back foot.
2006 our midfield was brilliant, average forward line in my opinion
2018 when Sam Mitchell was our midfield coach, we were humming in the midfield in the last few weeks of the year, midfield clearances aplenty.
 
regarding the heat, surely they close the roof for tomorrow's game...right?
Probably makes it worse with no airflow, it becomes an oven. At least with the typical northerly that blows when Melbourne gets a hot spell, there will be some decent airflow around the ground with the roof open.
 
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