Fair to say that we'll go into round one without Elliott, Greenwood, Wells and JDG
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Clarification-
Do we get to upgrade one of Cox, Schafer or Smith to the senior list?
Meaning, unless a result of LTI, only one of these three will be available for selection each week?
Fair to say that we'll go into round one without Elliott, Greenwood, Wells and JDG
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Clarification-
Do we get to upgrade one of Cox, Schafer or Smith to the senior list?
Meaning, unless a result of LTI, only one of these three will be available for selection each week?
Elliott trained today so would have to remain a small chance.
If we can run the dogs off their legs out of defence playing Smith and Varcoe back would be better than Goldsack
Varcoe - Personally I think he's overrated on these boards most likely because he performed above expectations in 2015. He reverted in 2016 to the form that saw Geelong happy to deal for him and had a disappointing lack of scoreboard impact IMO. Long ago seem the days of 30 goal seasons. His 8 tackles against Richmond last week is the shining light and main justification I see for him being in the side against the Bulldogs.
When the 3 names above become available he may struggle to hold his spot unless his form is rock solid.
He's not playing anytime soon.He can train for the next 6 months but unless he gets some full games under his belt it's a big risk throwing him to the wolves at AFL level.
People are forgetting just how long he spent injured
He's not playing anytime soon.
Was this on Channel 10 as well?He's not playing anytime soon.
Great summary (and decent effort by Collins).http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-14/who-plays-in-round-one
B: Tyson Goldsack, Lynden Dunn, Jackson Ramsay
HB: Jeremy Howe, Ben Reid, Brayden Maynard
C: Steele Sidebottom, Adam Treloar, Jack Crisp
HF: Travis Varcoe, Jesse White, Will Hoskin-Elliott
F: Chris Mayne, Darcy Moore, Alex Fasolo
Foll: Brodie Grundy, Scott Pendlebury, Taylor Adams
I/C: Mason Cox, Jarryd Blair, Tom Phillips, Josh Smith
New faces: Lynden Dunn, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Chris Mayne
Missing with injury/suspension: Jamie Elliott (ankle, TBC), Levi Greenwood (hamstring, TBC), Ben Sinclair (hamstring, 8-12 weeks), Daniel Wells (calf, 2-4 weeks)
Notes: Several spots are up in the air because of fitness issues, so on the basis of limited match conditioning I left out Jamie Elliott and Jordan De Goey, both of whom missed the final two JLT Community Series games, and I wasn't prepared to take a risk on the hamstring of Levi Greenwood, whose position in the team was probably already under threat. Rookie full-back Henry Schade, from Gold Coast, was unlucky to miss out but ex-Melbourne veteran Lynden Dunn gets the nod for his superior body strength and experience to play on Bulldogs big men such as Travis Cloke and Tom Boyd. Young midfielder James Aish was perhaps also a little stiff. - Ben Collins
That seems pretty close to what most are suggesting.
A few points of note from me:
*Fasolo - On ability alone he clearly makes our forward line more potent but going by reports to much showboating was seen from him during the JLT games. That stops now or he may find himself on the outer of the 22 quicker than he thinks.
*Blair - Opposite to Fasolo in that he generally tries to put his best foot forward in any game of football. He'll always get credit for that. Do I think he's in our best 22? No but I haven't for a few years but he still gets selected. This year might finally be the season that breaks the camels back but on JLT form and with Elliott, Wells and de Goey most likely unavailable he'll be selected.
*Varcoe - Personally I think he's overrated on these boards most likely because he performed above expectations in 2015. He reverted in 2016 to the form that saw Geelong happy to deal for him and had a disappointing lack of scoreboard impact IMO. Long ago seem the days of 30 goal seasons. His 8 tackles against Richmond last week is the shining light and main justification I see for him being in the side against the Bulldogs.
When the 3 names above become available he may struggle to hold his spot unless his form is rock solid.
*Aish - I know plenty of people would have him in our 22 for next week but his omission is justifiable for round 1 IMO. By all reports I just don't think he did enough across the JLT series though encouragingly he put in his best performance in game 3. Needs to find more consistency in 2017 to be considered a 22 mainstay. On ability a better option than Blair but the wee man has earned a spot ahead of him on preseason output.
*Cox - Probably the biggest selection decision of round 1. Do we play him and try to expose the injury hit Bulldog ruck division and seemingly undersized defence or do we pay respect to the ability of the reigning premiers to cover for these deficiencies and expose us and Cox on the rebound across half back. It's a difficult one but the promising preseason form of Cox up forward will most likely see us try to play the game on our terms and he'll be selected.
*Mayne - Wow this drafting decision is either going to be a masterstroke or leave us with egg all over our face. In a year with so many talented free agents potentially on the market I do question our large investment in Mayne and wonder how much the decision was based around the pressure on the coach to make finals. It's fair to say his preseason form has been less spectacular but it's still early days and that's not unexpected. Encouragingly last week was his best performance so far and I do expect more of this going forward. Only time will tell if this was smart recruiting but he deserves a year before we hung, drawn and quarter him or erect a statue in his honour.
Bit of over exaggeration but cant see goldy taking his spotIs he really THAT good at this stage? Yes he's young and his a bright future but not sure he's automatic selection. Brain fades too much for me.
He's done imo. Shouldn't play unless injuries.Bit of over exaggeration but cant see goldy taking his spot
Sorry varcoe is a gunhttp://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-14/who-plays-in-round-one
B: Tyson Goldsack, Lynden Dunn, Jackson Ramsay
HB: Jeremy Howe, Ben Reid, Brayden Maynard
C: Steele Sidebottom, Adam Treloar, Jack Crisp
HF: Travis Varcoe, Jesse White, Will Hoskin-Elliott
F: Chris Mayne, Darcy Moore, Alex Fasolo
Foll: Brodie Grundy, Scott Pendlebury, Taylor Adams
I/C: Mason Cox, Jarryd Blair, Tom Phillips, Josh Smith
New faces: Lynden Dunn, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Chris Mayne
Missing with injury/suspension: Jamie Elliott (ankle, TBC), Levi Greenwood (hamstring, TBC), Ben Sinclair (hamstring, 8-12 weeks), Daniel Wells (calf, 2-4 weeks)
Notes: Several spots are up in the air because of fitness issues, so on the basis of limited match conditioning I left out Jamie Elliott and Jordan De Goey, both of whom missed the final two JLT Community Series games, and I wasn't prepared to take a risk on the hamstring of Levi Greenwood, whose position in the team was probably already under threat. Rookie full-back Henry Schade, from Gold Coast, was unlucky to miss out but ex-Melbourne veteran Lynden Dunn gets the nod for his superior body strength and experience to play on Bulldogs big men such as Travis Cloke and Tom Boyd. Young midfielder James Aish was perhaps also a little stiff. - Ben Collins
That seems pretty close to what most are suggesting.
A few points of note from me:
*Fasolo - On ability alone he clearly makes our forward line more potent but going by reports to much showboating was seen from him during the JLT games. That stops now or he may find himself on the outer of the 22 quicker than he thinks.
*Blair - Opposite to Fasolo in that he generally tries to put his best foot forward in any game of football. He'll always get credit for that. Do I think he's in our best 22? No but I haven't for a few years but he still gets selected. This year might finally be the season that breaks the camels back but on JLT form and with Elliott, Wells and de Goey most likely unavailable he'll be selected.
*Varcoe - Personally I think he's overrated on these boards most likely because he performed above expectations in 2015. He reverted in 2016 to the form that saw Geelong happy to deal for him and had a disappointing lack of scoreboard impact IMO. Long ago seem the days of 30 goal seasons. His 8 tackles against Richmond last week is the shining light and main justification I see for him being in the side against the Bulldogs.
When the 3 names above become available he may struggle to hold his spot unless his form is rock solid.
*Aish - I know plenty of people would have him in our 22 for next week but his omission is justifiable for round 1 IMO. By all reports I just don't think he did enough across the JLT series though encouragingly he put in his best performance in game 3. Needs to find more consistency in 2017 to be considered a 22 mainstay. On ability a better option than Blair but the wee man has earned a spot ahead of him on preseason output.
*Cox - Probably the biggest selection decision of round 1. Do we play him and try to expose the injury hit Bulldog ruck division and seemingly undersized defence or do we pay respect to the ability of the reigning premiers to cover for these deficiencies and expose us and Cox on the rebound across half back. It's a difficult one but the promising preseason form of Cox up forward will most likely see us try to play the game on our terms and he'll be selected.
*Mayne - Wow this drafting decision is either going to be a masterstroke or leave us with egg all over our face. In a year with so many talented free agents potentially on the market I do question our large investment in Mayne and wonder how much the decision was based around the pressure on the coach to make finals. It's fair to say his preseason form has been less spectacular but it's still early days and that's not unexpected. Encouragingly last week was his best performance so far and I do expect more of this going forward. Only time will tell if this was smart recruiting but he deserves a year before we hung, drawn and quarter him or erect a statue in his honour.
I'd prefer Cox inI would leave Cox out and go with an extra mid.
Elliott won't play and Schade will play.Ramsay Dunn Maynard
Howe Reid Smith
De Goey Pendles Crisp
Sidebottom Moore WHE
Fasolo Cox Elliott
Grundy Treloar Adams
Varcoe Aish Phillips White
Cox so dangerous up forward, so he’s in. Hasn’t played there for a full game yet, and still should’ve kicked 4 or 5 in one of those JLT games. White slots into the high half forward position and Darcy stays deep when Cox goes into the ruck to relieve Grundy.
Phillips good enough to get into the team, and provides great endurance and run down the wings, but De Goey and Crisp are my starting wingmen. This places them in the starting midfield brigade, where they provide added clearance ability, competitiveness, run, pace, toughness and desire. With the emergence of Smith and Phillips, I think people have forgotten just how good these two are in the heat of battle. & both can kick goals…
No Mayne, which prob won’t happen, but I want WHE in there, and hope that he can provide the defensive pressure that Bucks wants from Mayne, whilst adding precise kicking, skilful marking and pace to a side that needs it.
Greenwood also misses, which also prob may not happen if fit, but he slows us down and didn’t add much in terms of clearances when he did place recently. If we need his tagging against a McCrae or Libba, then I understand him being in, but I’d prefer Crisp on the Bont as a tagger, & I really like the young boys coming through, so want to give players like Aish, Phillips and Smith the opportunity to develop and deliver.
Lot of talk about Schade, but I think Bucks was saying he’s proved he can be cover for Reid or Dunn when required, or be a first choice against tall forward lines. He’s still learning the caper and our style, so 1.5 good pre-season games a gun defender & automatic selection doth not make. Bulldogs have a small forward line, which always seems to worry us, but I’m counting on our midfield to stand up and restrict the impact of their forwards.
The rest pick themselves, but need players like Maynard and White need to step and eradicate their errors, or be at risk of losing their spots…
Go Pies!