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ROUND 1: Saints vs. Geelong @ MCG
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B: Gwilt Dawson Dempster
HB: Clarke Goddard Fisher
C:Jones Armitage Montagna
HF:Ray Gilbert Gamble
F: Milne Riewoldt Stanley
R: McEvoy Dal Santo Hayes
I/C :Blake Gram Geary
Sub. Smith
HB: Clarke Goddard Fisher
C:Jones Armitage Montagna
HF:Ray Gilbert Gamble
F: Milne Riewoldt Stanley
R: McEvoy Dal Santo Hayes
I/C :Blake Gram Geary
Sub. Smith
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Other than as a tagger or shut down defender Dempster is pretty limited. At his age I can't see him improving to the extent Gwilt has and he would have to be under pressure to hold his spot with a number of more talented younger players knocking on the door.
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Here's hoping that match-up eventuates!
GF Day 2009 - SJ recovering from a hip operation, Baker plays normally and is able to win the battle on the day.
Round 13, 2010 - SJ fully fit, Baker resorts to thuggery and misses half the season with suspension.
This time around, SJ will be fully fit again and all eyes will be on the Baker-SJ match up if it eventuates, so Baker won't be able to resort to the same tactics, and have to play SJ on his merits.
I expect SJ to have a run on the ball, run Baker ragged while picking up 25-30 touches and kick 4 on Baker this time around.
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Here's hoping that match-up eventuates!
GF Day 2009 - SJ recovering from a hip operation, Baker plays normally and is able to win the battle on the day.
Round 13, 2010 - SJ fully fit, Baker resorts to thuggery and misses half the season with suspension.
This time around, SJ will be fully fit again and all eyes will be on the Baker-SJ match up if it eventuates, so Baker won't be able to resort to the same tactics, and have to play SJ on his merits.
I expect SJ to have a run on the ball, run Baker ragged while picking up 25-30 touches and kick 4 on Baker this time around.
Do note that after supposed thuggery the AFL changed the rules to avoid further combo charges, coming from a Geelong supporter (and mod) I'd probably choose my words & instances more carefully since it draws comparison to a certain player using a procedure that was banned after the fact and that many of your ilk got prissy at when the word cheater was attached. If the shoe fits for a similar scenario where rules were changed after the fact...
In any event I'd expect Stevie J to start on a HFF and that position to be rotated through by floating midfielders, he's far too valuable to play as a part time midfielder or too high up the ground for mine, as such, I wouldn't expect Baker to take him, I'd probably expect Jimmy Gwilt or Dempster.
Anyway, if I had to hazard a guess at a starting line up I'd probably go with something like;
B: Baker | Dawson | Blake
HB: Gram | Fisher | Gwilt
C: Montagna | Goddard | Dal Santo
HF: Gamble | Gilbert | Ray
F: Milne | Riewoldt | Mini
Foll: McEvoy | Hayes | Jones
Int: Geary | Peake | Armitage
Sub: Smith
EMG: Clarke | Stanley | Cripps
Cripps replaces Gram or Blake depending on line up (too tall,, too static) Stanley replaces Mini or Peake as extra height as a forward option for ruck rotation through FF (the square) as Rooey branches out.
Clarke replaces Geary (both have shizen disposal under pressure, both run off HB and can run through the midfield on a wing, Raph probably more solid overhead when on.)
Smith to be subbed on in the case of Armitage / Hayes / Jones / Goddard to provide the solid body in at the packs.
Steven, seemed to have a few niggles so he's not in the picture, Ledger still a bit raw, Archer needs to be promoted, same with Walsh so I wouldn't be promoting anyone for the LTI yet, see how the boys go in round 1 and then if a catastrophe happens you can promote to need rather than with what is left (promoting Archer as a forward and having Macca go down would screw any forward click since he'd then need to shoulder rucking).
Of course, I wouldn't be picking a team now anyway since I haven't looked at Geelongs list to know who'd they choose.
Here's hoping that match-up eventuates!
GF Day 2009 - SJ recovering from a hip operation, Baker plays normally and is able to win the battle on the day.
Round 13, 2010 - SJ fully fit, Baker resorts to thuggery and misses half the season with suspension.
This time around, SJ will be fully fit again and all eyes will be on the Baker-SJ match up if it eventuates, so Baker won't be able to resort to the same tactics, and have to play SJ on his merits.
I expect SJ to have a run on the ball, run Baker ragged while picking up 25-30 touches and kick 4 on Baker this time around.
You really think a couple of jumper punches kept SJ's score down that day?
FWIW he gave as good as he got, and Baker was foolish for taking the bait. ( Surprisingly Baker is normally a player who gives away very few free kicks - but sometimes -SNAP ).
Interesting how few games Baker has played on him ( Baker mainly played midfield before Jones got that role ).
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Get Ledger in ASAP. I don't rate Archer at this stage, reminds me of a poor mans Brett Cook, who was a poor mans David Sierakowksi, who was just poor. However, Archer WILL be a good player in 3 years, too much to expect of the young colt to be thrown to the wolves.
Play Stanley and let him just run.
Play Stanley and let him just run.
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My guess would be:
B: Baker | Dawson | Blake
HB: Gwilt | Fisher | Clarke
C: Montagna | Gram | Dal Santo
HF: Gamble | Riewoldt | Goddard
F: Milne | Gilbert | Peake
Foll: McEvoy | Hayes | Jones
Int: Ray | McQualter | Dempster
Sub: Stanley
Emg: Armitage | Smith | Lynch
B: Baker | Dawson | Blake
HB: Gwilt | Fisher | Clarke
C: Montagna | Gram | Dal Santo
HF: Gamble | Riewoldt | Goddard
F: Milne | Gilbert | Peake
Foll: McEvoy | Hayes | Jones
Int: Ray | McQualter | Dempster
Sub: Stanley
Emg: Armitage | Smith | Lynch
I agree , Ledger would make a great sub. Rotate with some other player who is a bit quiet at 3/4 time.
Stanley did OK last year and needs to build on that. Archer will be good but I feel we should focus on Stanley first ( we will need another Ruck next year anyway so he needs more games in him).
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Pretty much agree with this except if mini or peake get a game over Armo I will spew (repeat comment I know). Would have had Armo and Steven above both however as far as I know Jack hasn't played yet this year.
Also I want Stanley in the team but I think starting as the sub needs to be a mid IMO.
Maybe Cripps or Lynch over dempster too if we're serious re injecting youth. I have always thought dempster was a good bottom 6 player but I must have missed something as I'm noticing there's a lot of Seany love about.
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questions over whether sammy fisher will be picked IMO after the weekend trouble - could be rested as a precaution due to the concussion?
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That's very close to my starting 22. There's 3 players I have question marks over, Peake and Geary haven't shown improvement in their decision making, and McQualter, while he has had a dismal year he's done enough in the pre-season to suggest he might be turning things around.
So McQualter in. The forward line needs another tall, and if Kosi doesn't come up it has to be one of Archer (if elevated) or Stanley. The last spot on the bench to go to Smith or perhaps Lynch as a forward rotation.
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B Baker Dawson Gwilt
HB Clarke Gilbert Fisher
C Dal Santo Goddard Ray
HF Gamble Rewioldt Montagna
F Milne Archer McQualter
R McEvoy Hayes Jones
I/C Peake Gram Armitage
SUB Blake
HB Clarke Gilbert Fisher
C Dal Santo Goddard Ray
HF Gamble Rewioldt Montagna
F Milne Archer McQualter
R McEvoy Hayes Jones
I/C Peake Gram Armitage
SUB Blake
The trouble with choosing a substitute that is versatile to cover actual injuries is that statistically we wont need to cover an injury each game.
So statistically we are better to sub in a fresh player who can impact the game each week.
Having said that , with Raph in the backline there is always a good chance that subbing in Blake will improve the odds. But why not just play Blake the whole game.
If the Sub is a versatile midfielder, the field can be shuffled to cover any injuries. The versatility ( BJ in particular ) is already on the ground.
In most cases an injury will be a midfielder because most players are midfielders.
So statistically we are better to sub in a fresh player who can impact the game each week.
Having said that , with Raph in the backline there is always a good chance that subbing in Blake will improve the odds. But why not just play Blake the whole game.
If the Sub is a versatile midfielder, the field can be shuffled to cover any injuries. The versatility ( BJ in particular ) is already on the ground.
In most cases an injury will be a midfielder because most players are midfielders.
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B: Baker - Blake - Dempster
HB: McQualter - Gwilt - Clarke
C: Goddard - Armitage - Montagna
HF: Lynch - Riewoldt - Ray
F: Milne - Gilbert - Gamble
R: McEvoy - Hayes - Jones
INT: Dal Santo - Gram - Peake
S: Geary
None of the four will be match fit for the game. Don't kid yourself.
Perhaps a good idea to rest the fish. Geelong focuses on mediums and smalls anyway, Blake can take Mooney and Gwilt has schooled Pods before. Bakes to Johnson cue another massive sook from the Cats.
Ray takes Enright, Jones on Bartel, McQualter to do what he can about Chapman and Hayes to take care of Selwood during bathtime.
We got this.
HB: McQualter - Gwilt - Clarke
C: Goddard - Armitage - Montagna
HF: Lynch - Riewoldt - Ray
F: Milne - Gilbert - Gamble
R: McEvoy - Hayes - Jones
INT: Dal Santo - Gram - Peake
S: Geary
None of the four will be match fit for the game. Don't kid yourself.
Perhaps a good idea to rest the fish. Geelong focuses on mediums and smalls anyway, Blake can take Mooney and Gwilt has schooled Pods before. Bakes to Johnson cue another massive sook from the Cats.
Ray takes Enright, Jones on Bartel, McQualter to do what he can about Chapman and Hayes to take care of Selwood during bathtime.
We got this.
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Why am I seeing Archer in peoples teams? He was awful in the NAB Cup and we've got Stanley who's actually shown he can be a good player at this level should Kosi not get up.
He wasn't that awful, was he? Stanley might not get up either although I think most of us would have Stanley over Archer if both are fully fit.
We're a little low in our ruck/FF stocks at the moment. Archer may well be the best choice.
Archer's not ready. Stanley a much better bet at this stage.
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I'd love to see a Riewoldt-Stanley combination in the forward line.
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Seems most are a lot more impressed with Archer than I was. He was OK but certainly not AFL level in my eyes.
His raw strength, willingness to get to the ball, decent footskills, and general ground level play impressed me. In the ruck, his tap work was relatively poor, and he does not have the leap to pull it off consistently. However, he was good in an around the ground role (marking in the middle/back, ground efforts etc.).
He's not ready for AFL level. Awful implies he has large glaring flaws and can't do anything right. Not ready says he's got work to do before he can play.
He's not ready for AFL level. Awful implies he has large glaring flaws and can't do anything right. Not ready says he's got work to do before he can play.
Didn't think Archer was bad, but he's a bit raw yet.Stanley was good in last weekends Sandringham game.Certainly no suggestion he is not fit.There is another practise match on Sunday, maybe it will provide some clues as to who will be selected the following Friday. ( Surely they wouldn't put a 5 day break on a player ).
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