Autopsy Round 10, 2022: Hawks hunt down the Lions

[Simon_Nesbit]

Have you seen Nash try and jump in the middle. A mix of Callow or Kosi will probably be the way it will go.

Would be interested to see Jiath would go at it in the middle only

I think the word you are looking for is terrified

Jiath putting his knee up into the opposition ruck, giving up 15cm and 20kg would be terrifying.

 

[badgrill]

Chris Fagan reckons goals from free kicks was "the reason they won the game".

Discuss.

 

[VandoHawk]

Chris Fagan reckons goals from free kicks was "the reason they won the game".

Discuss.

 

[KermitJagger]

Chris Fagan reckons goals from free kicks was "the reason they won the game".

Discuss.

If the game is close enough to be decided by free kicks you didn't really deserve to win it. If they were a clearly better side they'd have beaten us comfortably.

 

[Off The Couch]

2 v 13 and the umpires are the reason they got beat

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Chris Fagan reckons goals from free kicks was "the reason they won the game".

Discuss.

Easy deflection.
Brisbane did what Richmond did last week vs us. They played the man early.

In the end though, outside of the soft frees (one each way) - ironically one where Brisbane scored a goal - the umpires weren't actually that noticeable. They were consistent I'm their interpretation throughout the game, and didn't change it based on team

 

[The hands of stone]

Have you seen Nash try and jump in the middle. A mix of Callow or Kosi will probably be the way it will go.

Would be interested to see Jiath would go at it in the middle only

Cj in the ruck ???? Dont send a Ferrari to plough a field ( no offense ruckman )

 

[offtherails9]

Easy deflection.
Brisbane did what Richmond did last week vs us. They played the man early.

In the end though, outside of the soft frees (one each way) - ironically one where Brisbane scored a goal - the umpires weren't actually that noticeable. They were consistent I'm their interpretation throughout the game, and didn't change it based on team

Yeah I remember thinking early that we were getting a lot of free kicks, but that most were actually there.

 

[hawkman]

I think the word you are looking for is terrified

Jiath putting his knee up into the opposition ruck, giving up 15cm and 20kg would be terrifying.

Cj in the ruck ???? Dont send a Ferrari to plough a field ( no offense ruckman )

It will never happen, but he has the leap that he would be more competitive at centre bounces than the Hartigan, Nash types

 

[Sixpence]

Easy deflection.
Brisbane did what Richmond did last week vs us. They played the man early.

In the end though, outside of the soft frees (one each way) - ironically one where Brisbane scored a goal - the umpires weren't actually that noticeable. They were consistent I'm their interpretation throughout the game, and didn't change it based on team

You're kidding right? They were very noticeable and were very inconsistent! It was a great game of footy ruined by over zealous umpiring. It was shockingly bad.

Stupid comment by Fagan though. Conveniently ignores all the shit calls that went their way.

 

[cyrilicious]

It seemed unpires killed their momentum in the third by some stupid frees. When they were 13 goals vs 10 goals for us. Thats when the tide started turning.

 

[perro_loco]

Pardon the intrusion, Firstly congrats on an excellent win against the Lions. I have a question about O'Brien who we recruited from you this s eason. Beveridge plays O'Brien as a back man. I believe he played more as a forward at the Hawks. What can you tell me about his years at the Hawks? Is O'Brien better as a forward or back? appreciate your thoughts. BTW your young team is looking pretty good. Thanks for a reply in advance.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Pardon the intrusion, Firstly congrats on an excellent win against the Lions. I have a question about O'Brien who we recruited from you this s eason. Beveridge plays O'Brien as a back man. I believe he played more as a forward at the Hawks. What can you tell me about his years at the Hawks? Is O'Brien better as a forward or back? appreciate your thoughts. BTW your young team is looking pretty good. Thanks for a reply in advance.

He’s a better defender only because the mental demons that his marking hands have as a forward don’t seem to hinder him as much when playing back.

He had the odd game as a forward where he’d take consistent marks, but he mostly would get his hands to the ball and fumble the mark 2 out of every 4 attempts…which became excruciating to watch.

 

[Bugs1977]

Pardon the intrusion, Firstly congrats on an excellent win against the Lions. I have a question about O'Brien who we recruited from you this s eason. Beveridge plays O'Brien as a back man. I believe he played more as a forward at the Hawks. What can you tell me about his years at the Hawks? Is O'Brien better as a forward or back? appreciate your thoughts. BTW your young team is looking pretty good. Thanks for a reply in advance.

If Timmy O could hold a mark then he could’ve been a 50 goal a season forward.

 

[arupist]

Chris Fagan reckons goals from free kicks was "the reason they won the game".

Discuss.

Then maybe Chris Fagan needs to teach his backmen not to give away so many free kicks. His own fault.

 

[A Diakos]

Pardon the intrusion, Firstly congrats on an excellent win against the Lions. I have a question about O'Brien who we recruited from you this s eason. Beveridge plays O'Brien as a back man. I believe he played more as a forward at the Hawks. What can you tell me about his years at the Hawks? Is O'Brien better as a forward or back? appreciate your thoughts. BTW your young team is looking pretty good. Thanks for a reply in advance.

he played back for a while for us to reasonable success ...timmy o is the almost man gets his hands on marks and spills them last second

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Interestingly we had 10 running bounces for the game, whilst they has zero.

That suggests a few thing - our players took the game on more, we got the ball out to our players in space and we were able to shut down their space.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Then maybe Chris Fagan needs to teach his backmen not to give away so many free kicks. His own fault.

There were 63 frees given out. Some were absolutely laughable.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Once again free kicks do not win or lose you a match. If you are complaining about them you are focusing on the wrong things. Umpires have always made mistakes and will continue to do so however the players make a lot more mistakes than the umpires minimise those first. I have yet to see a game where the umpires have made more mistakes than the players in the game

 

[TassieGrown]

Pardon the intrusion, Firstly congrats on an excellent win against the Lions. I have a question about O'Brien who we recruited from you this s eason. Beveridge plays O'Brien as a back man. I believe he played more as a forward at the Hawks. What can you tell me about his years at the Hawks? Is O'Brien better as a forward or back? appreciate your thoughts. BTW your young team is looking pretty good. Thanks for a reply in advance.

if Timmy O could hold a mark he would be a top 50 player, almost

 

[Davo23]

Once again free kicks do not win or lose you a match. If you are complaining about them you are focusing on the wrong things. Umpires have always made mistakes and will continue to do so however the players make a lot more mistakes than the umpires minimise those first. I have yet to see a game where the umpires have made more mistakes than the players in the game

Exactly right.
And some umpiring mistakes are just a choice between a decision one way or another - “holding the ball” or “no prior”, and its just the position of the umpire that determines the decision.

And that happens multiple times each quarter.

And speaking of Brisbane, does anyone think that Daniel Rich is hugely overrated? He sits behind the pack, gets easy possessions but turns the ball over regularly.

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[Stratton24]

Once again free kicks do not win or lose you a match. If you are complaining about them you are focusing on the wrong things. Umpires have always made mistakes and will continue to do so however the players make a lot more mistakes than the umpires minimise those first. I have yet to see a game where the umpires have made more mistakes than the players in the game

of course free kicks can win or lose you a match just look at the Bulldogs finals in 2016

 

[TheFourPillars]

of course free kicks can win or lose you a match just look at the Bulldogs finals in 2016

Naah you can not convince me of this. Free kicks umpires do not win you matches

 

[KermitJagger]

Once again free kicks do not win or lose you a match. If you are complaining about them you are focusing on the wrong things. Umpires have always made mistakes and will continue to do so however the players make a lot more mistakes than the umpires minimise those first. I have yet to see a game where the umpires have made more mistakes than the players in the game

Exactly this, it's cathartic to complain about the umpiring but you have to focus on what is in your ability to control. You need to be good enough to beat a team by a margin that can't be influenced by chance.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Exactly right.
And some umpiring mistakes are just a choice between a decision one way or another - “holding the ball” or “no prior”, and its just the position of the umpire that determines the decision.

And that happens multiple times each quarter.

And speaking of Brisbane, does anyone think that Daniel Rich is hugely overrated? He sits behind the pack, gets easy possessions but turns the ball over regularly.

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Exactly this, it's cathartic to complain about the umpiring but you have to focus on what is in your ability to control. You need to be good enough to beat a team by a margin that can't be influenced by chance.

I mean its easier to blame the umpires than the players