Autopsy Round 10, 2023: GWS v St.Kilda

[The Punter]

The inaccuracy is a wheels and roundabouts thing. In the first 8 rounds we were more inaccurate than our opponents 0 times. Last two weeks we have conceded 31.15. Happy to mark it down as reverting to the mean.

 

[Plugger35]

Hopefully they are working to improve their goal kicking as it has cost us wins in the past and could have cost us another win yesterday.

We really should have won that game comfortably with all the chances we had but instead it was uncomfortable and stressful right until the end.

The positives were that our two main strikers King and Higgins were both pretty accurate, Higgins with 3 goals straight and King with just the one miss.

 

[BrutThough]

10 - Jack Sinclair

35

Jack Sinclair

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

235.0

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

5.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

MG

376.0

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.0

4star

MG

138.2

3star

(STK)
8 - Rowan Marshall

19

Rowan Marshall

Age

28

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

3.4

5star

HO

20.2

5star

D

12.9

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.6

2star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

7.8

5star

(STK)
3 - Josh Kelly (GWS)
3 - Callum Wilkie

44

Callum Wilkie

Age

28

Ht

191cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

221.3

3star

D

12.6

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

3.6

2star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

2star

MG

223.1

3star

D

14.0

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.2

4star

MG

170.0

3star

(STK)
2 - Brent Daniels

16

Brent Daniels

Age

25

Ht

172cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.9

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

(GWS)
2 - Tom Green

12

Tom Green

Age

23

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

(GWS)
1 - Max King

12

Max King

Age

24

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

1star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

1.4

5star

(STK)
1 - Jack Steele

9

Jack Steele

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

(STK)

AFLCA Champion Player of the Year - AFL Coaches Association Awards - AFL Coaches Association

aflcoaches.com.au

 

[Remboy]

Not sure if its been mentioned but whoever took Tom Green out of the equation needs a massive rap.

Was it Seb?


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I had a quick look at the replay and checked who was on him at centre bounces. For the first three quarters they rotated through Ross, Crouch, Steele, Gresham and Clark. In the last quarter it was Steele pretty much the whole quarter.

 

[Sun Ra]

King kicked 52 last year

 

[bergholt]

10 - Jack Sinclair (STK)
8 - Rowan Marshall (STK)
3 - Josh Kelly (GWS)
3 - Callum Wilkie (STK)
2 - Brent Daniels (GWS)
2 - Tom Green (GWS)
1 - Max King (STK)
1 - Jack Steele (STK)

AFLCA Champion Player of the Year - AFL Coaches Association Awards - AFL Coaches Association

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Our totals

35+: Sinclair (39 from 6 matches voted in), Wilkie (37 from 6)
30+:
25+:
20+: Marshall (23 from 5)
15+: Wood (16 from 3)
10+: Owens (11 from 3), Higgins (10 from 2)
5+: Hill (9 from 3), Steele (7 from 2), Wanganeen-Milera (5 from 1)
1+: Crouch (4 from 2), Ross (2 from 2), Battle (2), Phillipou (2), Butler (1), Byrnes (1), King (1)

0: Clark (10 matches played), Howard (10), Paton (10), Stocker (10), Gresham (9), Caminiti (7), Cordy (7), Windhager (6), Bytel (5), Membrey (4), Webster (3), Sharman (2)


Sinclair currently sitting equal 6th in the comp, Wilkie equal 8th.

 

[aussierulesrules]

 

[malevu]

Well that’s ok - but get Sinclair into the midfield and Ross to half back/sub.

No more wasting elite talent in the back half - get Sincs involved in the action - a clear upgrade from Ross

I'd be okay with Seb out for either of Windhager or Bytel but I've got a feeling Seb's file is stamped "not to be dropped". Time will tell.

 

[SteeleSaints]

10 - Jack Sinclair (STK)
8 - Rowan Marshall (STK)
3 - Josh Kelly (GWS)
3 - Callum Wilkie (STK)
2 - Brent Daniels (GWS)
2 - Tom Green (GWS)
1 - Max King (STK)
1 - Jack Steele (STK)

AFLCA Champion Player of the Year - AFL Coaches Association Awards - AFL Coaches Association

aflcoaches.com.au

Interesting that Marshall was rated so highly I thought Keiran Briggs had a reasonably good game.

The other obvious is how well our defence played and only Wilkie got a mention?.

 

[bergholt]

0: Clark (10 matches played), Howard (10), Paton (10), Stocker (10), Gresham (9), Caminiti (7), Cordy (7), Windhager (6), Bytel (5), Membrey (4), Webster (3), Sharman (2)

It's interesting that plenty of people on here are rating Clark's performances at various times, but he still hasn't been in the top 5 players on the ground for the coaching staff at any point. Same for Stocker and Caminiti.

 

[TheNewEnsign]

10 - Jack Sinclair (STK)
8 - Rowan Marshall (STK)
3 - Josh Kelly (GWS)
3 - Callum Wilkie (STK)
2 - Brent Daniels (GWS)
2 - Tom Green (GWS)
1 - Max King (STK)
1 - Jack Steele (STK)

AFLCA Champion Player of the Year - AFL Coaches Association Awards - AFL Coaches Association

aflcoaches.com.au

Interesting that RoMA currently has I believe 23 coaches' votes to English's 20. English definitely having the better season but there isn't all that much to split them and English seems to be the consensus AA pick at present.

 

[malevu]

Watching afterwards without the emotion, I thought it was a cracking game. Both teams pressure was extremely high all game and this, and the dodgy surface affected the disposal somewhat.

Clark to me is easily top ten. He looks like a mummy's boy but is as tough as nails. Has had his jaw smashed, a compound fracture of the nose, and he doesn't hesitate to crack in, and in most cases against their toughest inside mids. More often than not he gets the ball going Pur way under tremendous pressure.
His importance to the team is severely underrated in my opinion.

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Amazing how you can feel different watching a game on replay compared to live. It was a high standard game, goal kicking aside. Both teams defences struggled at time when the ball transitioned quickly. Agree on Clark. I doubt he'll ever be a 30 possession mid unless he can build his tank. But 20-25 touches from him considering they are usually contested will do me.

 

[The_Steadier]

GWS are underachieving, they have run some good teams close this season. They have a pile of talent still.

Yet another team (along with the bombers and blues) who were complete morons for not chasing ross the boss.


*It was good to see gresh kick a ball 50 meters (despite the shot missing).
To me it looked like he's been watching jack higgins- he throws his entire body weight into his long kicks, and it's very effective.
Hopefully we see gresh starting to do that more often too.

*It was good to win despite ross, clark and crouch all playing pretty poorly.

*We got lucky they came into the game undersized, and then copped more major problems.

*As I've been banging on about for a year now..... Sinclair is a mid.
A very very good one.
Gun halfbacks are easy to find/develop compared to gun mids.
It's idiocy it's taken this long for him to be given proper midfield time.
Sinclair had 20 possies and a goal in a half playing as a mid in round 1 of last year v the pies.

And was virtually never put there again for the rest of the year.

 

[Fehring]

try listening oon the radio . that was horrible. i was out for the first quarter and only SEN had it on, i had to turn it off it was that bad.

I was driving home for the first 20 mins. Worst commentary I've ever heard.

 

[The Punter]

I was driving home for the first 20 mins. Worst commentary I've ever heard.

Dwayne and Lynchy were barracking for GWS on the TV commentary.

 

[TheNewEnsign]

Dwayne and Lynchy were barracking for GWS on the TV commentary.

Dwayne, Lynch and Johnson are the worst trio going around for Saints games. Dwayne just says the same things over and over; and he doesn't know half our players names. Lynch can't actually string a sentence together. Johnson is so obviously salty about us and surly whenever anything goes well for the Saints.

 

[SaintersUnite]

Dwayne and Lynchy were barracking for GWS on the TV commentary.

“Zigged when he shoulda zagged”
“He mesmerised them!”
“Spent it before he earned it”


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[CursingFijian]

I watched Whitfield closely, he was pretty average, not much of what he did had impact. I was surprised he had so many touches.

Totally agree about Whitfield being low impact against us.

But in years past we have pined for a rebounding distributor with an exquisite kick and good pace, like a prime Whitfield.

I’m pretty sure we have found our man.

We rejoiced when Sinclair showed he’s more than capable down back. But with every week Naz is showing us that he’s the best man for the job, and thereby creating the space for Sinclair and Hill to take on different roles.

 

[hayes]

Almost half a season in and we’re ranked first for contested possessions and with a pretty decent gap as well. I expect that to drop a little bit with Owens out but that’s a great effort so far.

 

[Sun Ra]

“Zigged when he shoulda zagged”
“He mesmerised them!”
“Spent it before he earned it”


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Think he used that one 4 times.

 

[Plugger35]

Yet another team (along with the bombers and blues) who were complete morons for not chasing ross the boss.


*It was good to see gresh kick a ball 50 meters (despite the shot missing).
To me it looked like he's been watching jack higgins- he throws his entire body weight into his long kicks, and it's very effective.
Hopefully we see gresh starting to do that more often too.

*It was good to win despite ross, clark and crouch all playing pretty poorly.

*We got lucky they came into the game undersized, and then copped more major problems.

*As I've been banging on about for a year now..... Sinclair is a mid.
A very very good one.
Gun halfbacks are easy to find/develop compared to gun mids.
It's idiocy it's taken this long for him to be given proper midfield time.
Sinclair had 20 possies and a goal in a half playing as a mid in round 1 of last year v the pies.

And was virtually never put there again for the rest of the year.

Yeah we got lucky with Haynes going off with concussion early in the game, he is one of their most important and experienced defenders.

That got evened out though when we lost Owens with concussion shortly afterwards and he was looking really dangerous up forward.

As for Sinclair, I agree that he should be used more in the midfield, not only is he a good midfielder, he is capable of kicking goals too.

He kicked 2 important goals yesterday and that was the final margin in the end so if they left him back at half back we may not have won that game.

 

[sammm]

Almost half a season in and we’re ranked first for contested possessions and with a pretty decent gap as well. I expect that to drop a little bit with Owens out but that’s a great effort so far.

hopefully, Owens is only out for 1 match.

 

[EddieMurphy]

I had a quick look at the replay and checked who was on him at centre bounces. For the first three quarters they rotated through Ross, Crouch, Steele, Gresham and Clark. In the last quarter it was Steele pretty much the whole quarter.

Green 9 clearances so not really taken out of the game.

 

[bergholt]

As for Sinclair, I agree that he should be used more in the midfield, not only is he a good midfielder, he is capable of kicking goals too.

He kicked 2 important goals yesterday and that was the final margin in the end so if they left him back at half back we may not have won that game.

Agree. He has 4 goals for the year so far. Marshall + Steele + Crouch + Ross have 6 between them. Would love to see those four kick goals a bit more regularly.

 

[moirae42]

The "half held" part was the best bit.