Toast Round 15 = Collingwood 82-80 Adelaide

[No SPIN]

The Tom Mitchell 50 was soft.
The Rankine goal line decision tight as.
Dawson was bleeding from the contact to the face, there are four umps to hopefully avoid situations where they are unsighted, yet they missed it.
We got the rub of the green (no conspiracies, just worked out that way), why shouldn't they be able to highlight a decision that was objectively wrong that would have given one of the better clutch kicks going around a chance at a win in a game they did a bloody good job to play their way back into?
Got no dramas with it, personally.

As a Club you need to build a culture of excellence by focusing on the things you can control.
Adel lost the game because they couldn’t stop Coll in the last QTR - it’s that simple.

That’s the lesson.

Allowing an Umpiring decision to distract from this lesson, by asking the AFL for a please explain, just builds a culture where excuses are acceptable.

 

[Markfs]

Kudos to the Crows youngsters and their awesome captain, Tex was great too. Nick's seems a great coach and a good guy as well.

But geez, has there ever been a bigger bunch of sooks after a game?

Apparently Dawson had his head taken off, was the most obvious decision of all time. Yet all commentators missed it too. So they miss a tight one and then send in "please explain" for that decision. How many of those kinds of decisions do umpires get wrong? Are they sending it because of the decision or because the stage of the game? What kind of justification do they get from the AFL admitting a mistake?

Then there was Daicos ridiculously convincing the umpires to make a technically correct decision when we had the ball 40m out anyway. This was shocking, cheating. Um. Mihocek is prob a 60-70% chance to kick it anyway.

And then the goal review. I mean you have to be just completely biased to say that was a goal. And you have to be certain. It was clearly inconclusive. People will have their hunches, but it's not conclusive.

Take a sojourn over to the saltiest, most pathetic board you will ever see and read the Crows fans on the game. I thought there would be a lot of pumped up fans at their young sides effort. Nope, they were robbed. Every post complaining about the umpiring. And here is the final kicker. It's Vic bias and cheating...coming from the team we beat despite the huge umpiring errors (one that would have been a gimme foal in the goal square).

Fair dinkum, you get the sense some would prefer to complain and lose than win. And you wonder why the Crows have been such a loser club for so long. Start with their loser supporters.

we need to get you to run a course for people obsessed with dom sheed....

 

[ThePhantom777]

We controlled the last 2 mins very well. Good win. It would be nice to play all of September at the MCG

 

[gutsroy]

As a Club you need to build a culture of excellence by focusing on the things you can control.
Adel lost the game because they couldn’t stop Coll in the last QTR - it’s that simple.

That’s the lesson.

Allowing an Umpiring decision to distract from this lesson, by asking the AFL for a please explain, just builds a culture where excuses are acceptable.

Don't understand that logic at all.
Of course clubs can question / request clarity from the AFL around umpiring decisions / instructions / ..., the same way we did with Ginnivan, e.g..
Clearly a missed call, and the analysis and statement by the league bears out that it was a legitimate query. Are we the only ones permitted to ask questions?
Mystified by the very heavy-handed takes trying to conflate this with some nebulous 'loser mentality'.
This is Nicks, doesn't sound like someone looking to create a culture of excuses:
“That was good footy and our guys, after 5-10 minutes of wanting to kick the cat, will move on and get ready for next week.”

 

[Apex36]

I've seen that sentiment. Honestly find it puzzling. The Crows player barreled into him late with 0 chance to contest the football. That was just a classic decision to me

Yeah, weird comment wasn’t it? Even the commentators were saying it was a clear 50.

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

we need to get you to run a course for people obsessed with dom sheed....

Never understood it. The Eagles killed us in that last quarter when it was there to be won, they missed very gettable goals, and there was still nearly 2 minutes left after he kicked it if we were good enough. Like the team we have now, you'd back us to come again, wouldn't you? Reality is, that team performed amazingly well, but just wasn't good enough to win it.

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

The Tom Mitchell 50 was soft.
The Rankine goal line decision tight as.
Dawson was bleeding from the contact to the face, there are four umps to hopefully avoid situations where they are unsighted, yet they missed it.
We got the rub of the green (no conspiracies, just worked out that way), why shouldn't they be able to highlight a decision that was objectively wrong that would have given one of the better clutch kicks going around a chance at a win in a game they did a bloody good job to play their way back into?
Got no dramas with it, personally.

Because they’re hanging their hat on one critical decision. If this incident happened in the first 10 minutes it’s a non issue. Plenty frees were missed for the pies as well ie the rankine throw. The umpires were in a shit spot for the Dawson incident.

 

[lyfsux]

Now I've heard everything- Keays says he did not mean to pull his glasses off!

Oh okay good story, so your hand was up there to pat him on the head and say "good goal Coxy"

yeah right

 

[No SPIN]

Don't understand that logic at all.
Of course clubs can question / request clarity from the AFL around umpiring decisions / instructions / ..., the same way we did with Ginnivan, e.g..
Clearly a missed call, and the analysis and statement by the league bears out that it was a legitimate query. Are we the only ones permitted to ask questions?
Mystified by the very heavy-handed takes trying to conflate this with some nebulous 'loser mentality'.
This is Nicks, doesn't sound like someone looking to create a culture of excuses:
“That was good footy and our guys, after 5-10 minutes of wanting to kick the cat, will move on and get ready for next week.”

Ginnivan’s was series of missed free kicks over several matches that rightly needed clarification.
A single incident like Dawsons is completely different.

 

[Couch Coach]

AFL conceded that Dawson should have gotten a free kick in the dying seconds of the game...

Bent knees, hips dropped, head down, no free kick to Ginnivan.
Oh wait not a small forward so must be a free.

No free.

No free.

No free.

No free.

 

[Vankri]

Funnily enough in the last two minutes:

Mitchell gets fully tackled without the ball. If we’re not in the dying seconds of a close game that’s a free kick.

Markov gets touched high when going for the ground ball, same as above.

Any of these gets called and that controversial last second decision never happens.

Reality is it has to be an absolutely obvious infringement for the umps to blow the whistle in these situations. If they did nothing for Murphy and AJ in the last two minutes of the Adelaide oval game (that was in fact outrageous) they certainly weren’t going to pay that one.

 

[Football God]

9news Adelaide.

 

[Gabbo64]

So glad we won one where the last free/non free went our way. It makes it all the sweeter. I just wish there were three or four missed fee kicks for the crying Crows before the final siren. Imagine the uproar. How wonderful would that have been.
To any Crows supporters reading this, Coles have a special on bulk packs of tissues.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Funnily enough in the last two minutes:

Mitchell gets fully tackled without the ball. If we’re not in the dying seconds of a close game that’s a free kick.

Markov gets touched high when going for the ground ball, same as above.

Any of these gets called and that controversial last second decision never happens.

 

[Big Bryza]

AFL conceded that Dawson should have gotten a free kick in the dying seconds of the game...

Izak Rankine threw the ball that resulted in the Taylor Walker goal. Any word on that one?

 

[Big Bryza]

The Tom Mitchell 50 was soft.
The Rankine goal line decision tight as.
Dawson was bleeding from the contact to the face, there are four umps to hopefully avoid situations where they are unsighted, yet they missed it.
We got the rub of the green (no conspiracies, just worked out that way), why shouldn't they be able to highlight a decision that was objectively wrong that would have given one of the better clutch kicks going around a chance at a win in a game they did a bloody good job to play their way back into?
Got no dramas with it, personally.

Yeah Rankine threw the ball, Markov was taken high. It goes both ways.

Only losers sit there and cry after the game. If you you're good enough, you win.

Like we did at AO earlier in the year and likewise on Sunday coming from behind once again.

 

[Big Bryza]

To be pissed off about a clearly incorrect call and umpiring on the day which tilted in our favour has nothing to with with 'controlling the controllables', it's just about wanting acknowledgement that the screw-up was indeed a screw-up. Understand their want to at least have that level of 'gratification'.
It's not distracting anyone from anything, unless the players and coaching staff are dwelling on it, for which there's no evidence, is there?
Don't see why it's our right as a supporter base to tell Adelaide what is / isn't 'valid', just don't understand the need to.
But all good, I rarely post on the club board these days and will in all likelihood be out of step with the majority on this.

Are they discussing the Rankine throw on the Crows board?

Which would have resulted in a Noble shot from 50m or the ability to hit up a teammate to ice the game.

Crows fans can STFU and enjoy their loss. Sooks.

 

[Fruit]

We lost a grand final because an umpire was afraid to make a big call. Stop whinging Crows until you’ve walked in our shoes.

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

Gees the Adelaide board is great reading, absolutely flat out refuse to acknowledge anything but that one missed free.

 

[OniAu]

Oh okay good story, so your hand was up there to pat him on the head and say "good goal Coxy"

yeah right

Youd respect him more if he said he did it deliberately and was a bad decision

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Good article on our high attendance rates.

World-class crowds: Magpie Army flocks to Fly's Pies in record numbers

Collingwood's record attendances are proving a valuable asset in close games

www.afl.com.au

 

[Pistol Night]

Hey Crows supporters




SUCK SHIT!

 

[anshell]

Izak Rankine threw the ball that resulted in the Taylor Walker goal. Any word on that one?

No,of course not,because that decision cost Collingwood a goal,and no one wants to talk about that,especially the AFL.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

No,of course not,because that decision cost Collingwood a goal,and no one wants to talk about that,especially the AFL.

That was just a blatant chuck. The reverse angle they showed last was damning.

The high contact on Markov and then Dawson was difficult to see in both instances, so that’s a wash.

 

[anshell]

Good article on our high attendance rates.

World-class crowds: Magpie Army flocks to Fly's Pies in record numbers

Collingwood's record attendances are proving a valuable asset in close games

www.afl.com.au

That’s a fantastic turnout by Collingwood supporters.Imagine what sort of crowds we could draw if we were given decent timeslots ,instead of all the Sunday twilight and Sunday lunch time slots we’ve been given this year.