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Was pretty awesome seeing Ashcroft kick his first goal back
Still really rusty but getting better
Still really rusty but getting better
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Mike Whiting. I was looking for how to contact him, but i don’t do twitter.
Give Mike the benefit of wanting to remain impartial (unlike the TV commentators who are typically highlighting any incident and calling for weeks.
Rewatch the incident - Rankine stops, looks at him, the launches into him. A bit different to Fish’s explanation!
Surely too far back and Cripps/Daicos are Melbourne darlings.Lachie a chance for brownlow #3 ? having a solid season stat wise.
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There's no comparison . One's a negligent accident the other's assault with intent probably chargeable by the police
Any hope he had of winning this year was shot after the crap pile on that he didn't deserve it last year.Lachie a chance for brownlow #3 ? having a solid season stat wise.
Surely too far back and Cripps/Daicos are Melbourne darlings.
Surely too far back and Cripps/Daicos are Melbourne darlings.
Quite honestly are you watching the same thing ? Gaff whacked him in the face with full force and broke his jaw miles off the ball.Rubbish.
My point was, Gaff was trying to shake someone, his arm rode up, and we saw the outcome. I don't think for a minute he meant to whack him in the face, but he had to pay a price for the outcome.
Rankine has initiated the contact, and concussed someone in the process. Don't think you can call it an "accident". He's surely getting a holiday, as a consequence of the outcome.
Anyway, don't want to derail the thread...........
Did what we had to do tonight. Still think we're trying to get our offensive/defensive balance right. The overlap run they (and other teams prior) were able to generate was a bit of a worry - this being a consequence of trying to open up going forward IMO. Thought we also did well limiting Dawson and Hinge.
Thought most of our forwards had an "almost night". Besides the obvious (Neale, Dunkley), thought Oscar had a good game overall (some of his tap work was great), Ashcroft got better as the night went on (as others have said), and Andrews was pretty good.
Putting the actual incident to one side, I reckon Starcevich was having a really good game to that point - would have been interesting to see how that would have played out over 4 qtrs.
Hope Rayner can tidy up the fumbles - he's becoming more and more fumbly by the week (knowing how clean he can be at times, too).
think it would be nice if we gave beecken a debut if starce is missing
I think Beecken and Brain are both up to Senor footy.Big wrap from Fagan for Wilmots job on Rankine when Rankine went forward so Wilmot to play the more defensive role of Starce? Beecken plays as an attacking back flanker to fill in Darcy's position. Brain wouldn't look out of place either.
Quite honestly are you watching the same thing ? Gaff whacked him in the face with full force and broke his jaw miles off the ball.
Bit speechless on your take.
I reckon Cripps was worse even though it was in play. Sort of.Concerning Rankine, he almost certainly wouldn't have intended to cause Starc to be concussed but you can say the same about any illegal bump/action by any other player in any other circumstances that results in that outcome.
It's crystal clear
Intent is irrelevant.
If you chose to bump AND you cause head trauma, you suffer the consequences.
The fact that this was an off the ball incident just makes it worse IMO.
I actually like Rankine but if he gets anything less than 3 weeks for this, then the AFL's "concern" about concussion will look like a sick joke
Such is the beauty of the Brownlow - it’s an umpire voted medal, not media. Further, Cripps/Daicos can only get votes in games they play in, so can’t take votes away from Lachie (or any other player) unless we play them.Surely too far back and Cripps/Daicos are Melbourne darlings.
I said he'd get a holiday in the first place.OK, maybe I'll use a different example (I used Gaff as I'm not sure he meant to whack Brayshaw in the jaw, but it was the outcome).
Try Caminiti on Murphy last year. Caminiti didn't mean to get him in the head, but that was the outcome, and he paid the price. "Shows of strength" happen all the time - this was another where the unintended outcome meant there was a consequence.
Guess the point I'm trying to make is I felt you were downplaying what Rankine did (?). Whether similar occurs during the game or not, he'll surely pay the price for the outcome.
Do you think Rankine will get a holiday?
I said he'd get a holiday in the first place.
My observation was there wasn't much in it and you see the same thing often in games if you get the benefit of the aerial view. In fact often with a lot more force.
My selfish hope is that he gets out of it because we don't play them again and we want them to beat other teams
Cripps on Cal WAS actually much worse.I reckon Cripps was worse even though it was in play. Sort of.
But I'd be surprised if Rankine didn't get 2 . He seemed shocked at the way Starc went down and was out of action himself mentally for a while . But seeing he initiated it he's got a big problem with the outcome.
Honestly on second thought and looking at the brownlow predictor, which got him spot on last year, I'm going to change my view to he could do it but will need to come in with a sail.Thought that last year as well. He's at the same odds as he was going into the night.