Review Round 18, 2023 - Melbourne vs. Brisbane Lions

[beardancer]

Really we're the most mentally fragile team in the league. You can't turn desperation on from off. you either have it or you don't win premierships.

 

[Zacs_Magic_Tooth]

Negative pathetic football. Hope we learn a solid lesson from that last 15

 

[PTizzle]

On the plus side some of our more miserable posters seem to have rapidly got their voices back

 

[SizeMatters]

We win games by playing one or if we are lucky two amazing quarters in a game. Look over our past results this season with exception to two or so wins most of our wins have been built on a dominant quarter and three quarters of stalemates.

Need to learn to play four flipping quarters. If we can’t we aren’t going deep in finals.

 

[haystark]

Reading Twitter, jurno’s rapt they can keep the lions at MCG narrative going

I mean, the Lions are reading it........

 

[Dom PC]

Didn't watch the second half. Looks like a Melbourne game based on the stats and we just were tidy at creating shots on goal. If we break even in the midfield I'd suggest we win comfortably...

 

[CarterS]

Said about five minutes into the last quarter that we need one more goal, felt like we were not looking for it.

 

[Chezz]

Players started by going in to their shells

Fagan guaranteed the loss by putting Gunston back.

Chris - it doesn’t work! He got 2 possessions doing it in the first quarter and kicked it straight back to them!

It tells every player okay just hang on here

It also means Gunston stays on the ground when he should be off to have some run

And it gave melbourne an extra around the ball

Honestly Fagan might be the worst match-day coach in the comp

Fages is a great man manager but tactically he isn’t up there with the other coaches. Spot on about Gunston as the spare. Did absolutely nothing while the Dees had the extra around the ball.

We were doing fine matching them around the ground. Just bizarre and terrible tactics last 10 minutes.

 

[p4p1]

I know he's an easy target but Gunston is past it. I know he kicked three but we looked so much better with Rayner playing his role. He is cooked but he looks certain to play the year out.

What upsets me the most is how many posters did say after he dropped himself that the coaching team would hand him a return against the eagles rather than bringing him back through the VFL where there would be less of a chance he would look good.

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

Negative pathetic football. Hope we learn a solid lesson from that last 15

Us learning a lesson? Not likely

 

[thedaz]

Gotta say Charlie Cameron

23

Charlie Cameron

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

was very poor again tonight.

Missed some very gettable goals - didn't play on when he had teammates in a heap of space.

Not sure what's gone wrong with him the last few weeks. He's definitely out of form.

 

[Chezz]

Would really like to see Fort as the main ruck. Oscar gets exposed every time against the better rucks. Gawn almost singlehanded got them over the line there. One of the most one sided ruck duels you’ll ever see

 

[notliondown]

So our attempt at going defensive and shutting a game down means Melbourne kick over 100 for the first time in a dozen games.

Awesome.

Such a stupid stupid decision.

 

[JoeDanihersMoustache]

You mean I can't have an opinion about my team?

Sick of these supporters who can't remove their rose-coloured glasses.

It's ok mate

The hurt will go away

 

[martinson]

Players started by going in to their shells

Fagan guaranteed the loss by putting Gunston back.

Chris - it doesn’t work! He got 2 possessions doing it in the first quarter and kicked it straight back to them!

It tells every player okay just hang on here

It also means Gunston stays on the ground when he should be off to have some run

And it gave melbourne an extra around the ball

Honestly Fagan might be the worst match-day coach in the comp

I don't intend to fuel anything but take away your last sentence and I agree in totality with the rest of it.

 

[p4p1]

Not that it means much but Gawn had 215 SuperCoach points tonight. Gotta be some sort of record. Took the game away from us. Why was O so far back at the throw ins?

O always starts really far back. Not sure why, he often seems to get beaten to the throw in.
Gawn was incredible tonight, one of the best games I have ever seen a ruckman play.

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

Gotta say Charlie Cameron was very poor again tonight.

He was quiet but we didn't lose from lack of points

 

[p4p1]

Harsh because Gunston kicked 3 goals, but our forward half pressure looks far better with the two tall forward set up. We also run out games far better with an extra runner out there.

Unaccountable midfield killed us again in the first 10 and last 10 minutes. Dunkley out leaves a massive void.

Some senior players making brain farts under pressure too. Lester going for goal and lobbing it to three Melbourne defenders with a free man in the 50 comes to mind.

That was my issue with playing Lyons instead of Robertson in the middle. Cant afford to have 2-3 mids at a time that aren’t defensively accountable for their direct opponent.

 

[Scubaveg]

Can’t sugarcoat it. It was a choke.

We were on the brink of putting the hoodoo stuff to bed and instead we’ve added to the mythology.

That is going to be the key takeaway, which is unfortunate because we played some of the best football we’ve played this year in the second and third quarter. It could have been a game that set the blueprint for September. Maybe internally they will manage to build on that but externally the narrative will go elsewhere.

I’m not as down on Fages as others but he will rightfully be asked why he went defensive so early in the 4th.

Geez we missed Dunkley in the clinches late. It was the difference.

They missed Oliver. It’s no excuse.


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[Lion_LegacyXL]

This brought back heartbreaking memories of that loss to Dees at the MCG in 2008, we lead the majority of that game then we lost in the final minute.

 

[briztoon]

A really astute poster made a thread a couple of years ago asking some hard questions about Oscar and he was SHOUTED DOWN!

I don't remember making that thread.

 

[martinson]

I was pretty much behind froggy and thought he was justified having a shot, he just scuffed it.

I agree ,there wasn't much on and he should've kicked it . Or at least a point which as it turns out would've been useful.

 

[Happy_Neale]

So our attempt at going defensive and shutting a game down means Melbourne kick over 100 for the first time in a dozen games.

Awesome.

Such a stupid stupid decision.

That's what makes no sense at all. We were better defensively when we were playing our style of game not surprisingly. What could have been...

 

[Pride of lions]

Worst game from Neale I can recall. Got absolutely torched by Brayshaw, showed him no respect, cost us the last goal. Berry and Rayner non existent, provided nothing for the entire game. Their lack of effort and pressure was abysmal. And the way we went ultra defensive in the last 10 minutes was a carbon copy of when we played them at the Gabba earlier this year. As soon as we did it you could see Melbourne knew they could overrun us again.You would think we would have learned from that but obviously not. Unforgivable lack of composure and tactics.

 

[rusty08]

was Bez injured?

Nope,just a massive liability