Trades Round 2 Trades

[SM]

This might be counterintuitive, but seriously thinking of trading Titch this week. Crazy, I know, but I also know that Geelong won't let him rack up like he did last week. If Guthrie pulls up and he's confirmed to go to him, I'll pull Mitchell, because he'll keep him under a hundred if he does. Lot of ifs, but Titch won't slip under the radar this week and I think it could be a turning point if Geelong shut him down and curb his influence on the contest.

Why trade him on a presumed one week dip? Seems a complete waste.

 

[TheRednWhite]

Take your points, but no coach is going to let him have another 50 possession game (unless it's Buckley again, who seems to just like banging his head against a brick wall and getting the same results). I most likely will keep him, but I have this feeling that this week is gonna be a low score, which if he's captain, means two low scores. Look at what happened to Sloane when teams got wise to him. I feel like Titch wasn't 'on the radar' as much last year, but you don't break the all time possessions record and go under the radar again. Also, is he gonna win the contest against Ablett, Danger, Duncan and Selwood? He's good but I'm not sure he'll have enough support to be able to win the clearances and farm it out to the outside runners. Will have to wait to see what I hear during the week to really make an informed decision, but I'm not 100% confident like I was last week.

Yep for sure he will not get 50 touches this week but he will still score well. He is one of the best ball winners in the game, did well against the Cats last year as well. I’d think he’ll win the contest against anyone except maybe Dangerfield. His record at the MCG is just insane. If you didn’t start with Titch, then I can understand passing on him this week and hoping for a low score. But if you start with him, you’ve got to hold imo. His low will still be 100+ easy, finds a way to get cheap touches unless he has a very hard tag

 

[JDWCE]

Take your points, but no coach is going to let him have another 50 possession game (unless it's Buckley again, who seems to just like banging his head against a brick wall and getting the same results). I most likely will keep him, but I have this feeling that this week is gonna be a low score, which if he's captain, means two low scores. Look at what happened to Sloane when teams got wise to him. I feel like Titch wasn't 'on the radar' as much last year, but you don't break the all time possessions record and go under the radar again. Also, is he gonna win the contest against Ablett, Danger, Duncan and Selwood? He's good but I'm not sure he'll have enough support to be able to win the clearances and farm it out to the outside runners. Will have to wait to see what I hear during the week to really make an informed decision, but I'm not 100% confident like I was last week.

To be fair, he had absolutely no support in that Hawks midfield last year and he still absolutely dominated week to week. Tackles decently as well so even if he doesn't get first hands to it he should still score. He is almost certain to get a lower score but I wouldn't discount a great score still. He scored 125 and 147 on your blokes last year and adding Ablett to the mix shouldn't affect his score by 30-50 points. Will also be interesting to see how your blokes set up with the return of Danger and whether Ablett goes forward a little more

 

[Shadow89]

Why trade him on a presumed one week dip? Seems a complete waste.

I've got the luxury at the moment. I can afford to take him out for a lower premium and bring him back in the next week without it being an issue. With that said, I'm probably not gonna do it like I've said, but the temptation is there given that I don't have any urgent trades. It wouldn't be a risk either, as I could get a Cripps or a Cogs, Parker, Gibbs etc. in for the week and then bring back Titch the next week if I wanted him. Be different if I had trades I needed to make, but I definitely have the luxury given my lack of injuries and performing rooks. Selby the winner from last year got through this week and is probably gonna go this week without Titch, and he's 500 spots up on me in 477th (25 points difference). It can work, it's just figuring out if it's worth it. It probably isn't, but it would be a huge POD if it did work.

 

[SM]

I've got the luxury at the moment. I can afford to take him out for a lower premium and bring him back in the next week without it being an issue. With that said, I'm probably not gonna do it like I've said, but the temptation is there given that I don't have any urgent trades. It wouldn't be a risk either, as I could get a Cripps or a Cogs, Parker, Gibbs etc. in for the week and then bring back Titch the next week if I wanted him. Be different if I had trades I needed to make, but I definitely have the luxury given my lack of injuries and performing rooks. Selby the winner from last year got through this week and is probably gonna go this week without Titch, and he's 500 spots up on me in 477th (25 points difference). It can work, it's just figuring out if it's worth it. It probably isn't, but it would be a huge POD if it did work.

If you've got luxury then sort out your rookies. Unless you're first in Fantasy, you have areas to improve.

 

[Shadow89]

To be fair, he had absolutely no support in that Hawks midfield last year and he still absolutely dominated week to week. Tackles decently as well so even if he doesn't get first hands to it he should still score. He is almost certain to get a lower score but I wouldn't discount a great score still. He scored 125 and 147 on your blokes last year and adding Ablett to the mix shouldn't affect his score by 30-50 points. Will also be interesting to see how your blokes set up with the return of Danger and whether Ablett goes forward a little more

Interesting you say that, because when he scored 147, he'd scored nearly a hundred in the first half, I remember that. We sent Blicz to him the second half and kept him to around 50 points or so. I'm not saying that we'll keep him to a 70 or 80 or anything like that, but I definitely think if we tag him for the whole game, that he'll be closer to that 95-100 mark. Again, probs not gonna do it, but it's already making for an interesting conversation haha.

 

[JDWCE]

Interesting you say that, because when he scored 147, he'd scored nearly a hundred in the first half, I remember that. We sent Blicz to him the second half and kept him to around 50 points or so. I'm not saying that we'll keep him to a 70 or 80 or anything like that, but I definitely think if we tag him for the whole game, that he'll be closer to that 95-100 mark. Again, probs not gonna do it, but it's already making for an interesting conversation haha.

Out of curiosity, if you trade him out who do you plan on trading him to? Danger? The problem with trading him out is unless you keep the cash in reserve he will be near on impossible to trade back in given his price is very unlikely to drop much

 

[sampeck4]

hey guys was wandering if i could get advice here especially any power fans i need to get rid of that gumby weitering and it seems best i can afford is bonner. What do you guys think of him do you think he could consistently go over 80? cheers!

 

[Shadow89]

If you've got luxury then sort out your rookies. Unless you're first in Fantasy, you have areas to improve.

Oh definitely. Not gonna be that arrogant and say that my list is fine and that there aren't other priorities, but given that I haven't faced other issues as of yet, it's just something I've had in consideration. I also changed my lineup about 1000+ times in the offseason and flirted with a lineup without Titch, but didn't end up doing it. Just thought that it would be an interesting gambit if it did pay off. It's also that his run of 3 games after that include Richmond, Melbourne and North Melbourne. I could see Graham, Vince and Jacobs all having a crack at him over those weeks, so that's also something that's in consideration.

 

[Shadow89]

Out of curiosity, if you trade him out who do you plan on trading him to? Danger? The problem with trading him out is unless you keep the cash in reserve he will be near on impossible to trade back in given his price is very unlikely to drop much

Would be looking at either Cogs, Parker, Cripps, Crouch or Gibbs as options. Maybe even Danger or Ablett for the hell of it. I was always planning on saving the cash. It wasn't a 'oh I've got an extra 200K, let's get X and hope that works out.' Was more of a sideways luxury trade for the week to see what happens. If I went to the last two it'd be pretty easy to bring him back the next week, even if I didn't save the cash but I wouldn't take that risk. Essentially all it would mean is that I fixed up one of my rooks and then traded Titch for the week and brought him back the next week if it didn't pay off. Could even trade one of my other premos if I didn't think they were going strong. Posted about this earlier in another thread, but there was a formula that was calculated that showed what the highest score could have been in fantasy last year, and it was 9,000 points better than the winner. All they did was traded in the best premo for the week and then put the C on them. If you can pick which premos will have a down week and which will explode, you can also gain points that way. Again! This is all hypothetical and most likely won't come to fruition, but it's just a POD I've been thinking about.

 

[JDWCE]

Would be looking at either Cogs, Parker, Cripps, Crouch or Gibbs as options. Maybe even Danger or Ablett for the hell of it. I was always planning on saving the cash. It wasn't a 'oh I've got an extra 200K, let's get X and hope that works out.' Was more of a sideways luxury trade for the week to see what happens. If I went to the last two it'd be pretty easy to bring him back the next week, even if I didn't save the cash but I wouldn't take that risk. Essentially all it would mean is that I fixed up one of my rooks and then traded Titch for the week and brought him back the next week if it didn't pay off. Could even trade one of my other premos if I didn't think they were going strong. Posted about this earlier in another thread, but there was a formula that was calculated that showed what the highest score could have been in fantasy last year, and it was 9,000 points better than the winner. All they did was traded in the best premo for the week and then put the C on them. If you can pick which premos will have a down week and which will explode, you can also gain points that way. Again! This is all hypothetical and most likely won't come to fruition, but it's just a POD I've been thinking about.

The biggest problem I see is if carnage ensues and you get injuries/suspensions which in turn makes you do forced trades. If this happened, would make it a lot harder to trade Titch back in if you went through with this strategy

 

[guero]

I've got the luxury at the moment. I can afford to take him out for a lower premium and bring him back in the next week without it being an issue.

I like your thinking. Unlike the limited trade formats, you can take risks like this in AF. Some will work and some won't, but it could definitely be a TSN turning point for your season.

The danger is not where your team is at now, but what happens to your players this coming round. You trade out Titch, he only scores 100 and you pat yourself on the back. Then all of a sudden you cop a couple of injuries you have to deal with, things don't fall your way at the selection table and you're scrambling. All of a sudden it's round 5 or 6 and you still haven't been able to bring Titch back.

My advice is to keep him and if you're concerned he'll be stifled just put the C on another player.

Edit: what JD said.

 

[SM]

Is Rayner > English a decent trade? Thinking I might use my second trade on that. Could then shift King/Cameron out and move English into the ruck when it comes time to upgrade to an underpriced forward premium.

 

[Shadow89]

The biggest problem I see is if carnage ensues and you get injuries/suspensions which in turn makes you do forced trades. If this happened, would make it a lot harder to trade Titch back in if you went through with this strategy

I like your thinking. Unlike the limited trade formats, you can take risks like this in AF. Some will work and some won't, but it could definitely be a TSN turning point for your season.

The danger is not where your team is at now, but what happens to your players this coming round. You trade out Titch, he only scores 100 and you pat yourself on the back. Then all of a sudden you cop a couple of injuries you have to deal with, things don't fall your way at the selection table and you're scrambling. All of a sudden it's round 5 or 6 and you still haven't been able to bring Titch back.

My advice is to keep him and if you're concerned he'll be stifled just put the C on another player.

Edit: what JD said.

Both very valid points and definitely something that I've got in consideration. It's only a game though, so taking a risk makes it interesting too haha.

 

[rimb]

Picked L Fogarty over Holman and while happy with Fogarty's performance wonder if I need to get Holman in for one of Banfield/Brayshaw?

Also think I need to correct one of my PODs in Salem/ANB, probably Salem.

 

[crafty_bernardo]

Picked L Fogarty over Holman and while happy with Fogarty's performance wonder if I need to get Holman in for one of Banfield/Brayshaw?

Also think I need to correct one of my PODs in Salem/ANB, probably Salem.

I wouldn’t trade out any of Banfield/Bradshaw so soon.


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[rimb]

I wouldn’t trade out any of Banfield/Bradshaw so soon.


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Yeah fair call.

If Brayshaw and Holman repeat their first week efforts I could just do a sideways trade between them anyway.

 

[TheRednWhite]

Would be looking at either Cogs, Parker, Cripps, Crouch or Gibbs as options. Maybe even Danger or Ablett for the hell of it. I was always planning on saving the cash. It wasn't a 'oh I've got an extra 200K, let's get X and hope that works out.' Was more of a sideways luxury trade for the week to see what happens. If I went to the last two it'd be pretty easy to bring him back the next week, even if I didn't save the cash but I wouldn't take that risk. Essentially all it would mean is that I fixed up one of my rooks and then traded Titch for the week and brought him back the next week if it didn't pay off. Could even trade one of my other premos if I didn't think they were going strong. Posted about this earlier in another thread, but there was a formula that was calculated that showed what the highest score could have been in fantasy last year, and it was 9,000 points better than the winner. All they did was traded in the best premo for the week and then put the C on them. If you can pick which premos will have a down week and which will explode, you can also gain points that way. Again! This is all hypothetical and most likely won't come to fruition, but it's just a POD I've been thinking about.

The more I think about, trading out a premo could be a risk worth taking if you don’t have other pressing issues. While I won’t do this with Titch (too scared), I’m thinking of trading Treloar after his 105. It might be the only way I can get Coniglio in. Just have a feeling Treloar won’t be top 8 mid, don’t even know why I got him in for Coniglio before lockout. In saying that, Coniglio probably won’t be top 8 either but he showed me a 50+ point quarter which I rate highly. Really unsure of what to do here. Bulldogs were really bad so maybe that inflated Coniglio’s score so might just stay strong this week. Hopefully Treloar fires up and pushes to 115+ to justify selecting him rather that spending that bit extra and going for Gibbs or Dusty

 

[TheRednWhite]

Picked L Fogarty over Holman and while happy with Fogarty's performance wonder if I need to get Holman in for one of Banfield/Brayshaw?

Also think I need to correct one of my PODs in Salem/ANB, probably Salem.

Give Brayshaw a go at home. If he doesn’t get 70+ at home then Holman may be the way to go.

 

[Dupogi]

Give Brayshaw a go at home. If he doesn’t get 70+ at home then Holman may be the way to go.

I think the dockers should all be pumped for their debut at the new stadium. Hopefully Brayshaw can show he is a big game player, if not he will go next week for me with his nonperforming mate, Raynor.
I would certainly be holding Fyfe if I had him for this week.

 

[Dupogi]

The biggest problem I see is if carnage ensues and you get injuries/suspensions which in turn makes you do forced trades. If this happened, would make it a lot harder to trade Titch back in if you went through with this strategy

Something this forces you to make the good trades you normally wouldnt do. I know alot of people this week and thinking there isnt much they can really do expect force trade or over react early.

 

[Shadow89]

The more I think about, trading out a premo could be a risk worth taking if you don’t have other pressing issues. While I won’t do this with Titch (too scared), I’m thinking of trading Treloar after his 105. It might be the only way I can get Coniglio in. Just have a feeling Treloar won’t be top 8 mid, don’t even know why I got him in for Coniglio before lockout. In saying that, Coniglio probably won’t be top 8 either but he showed me a 50+ point quarter which I rate highly. Really unsure of what to do here. Bulldogs were really bad so maybe that inflated Coniglio’s score so might just stay strong this week. Hopefully Treloar fires up and pushes to 115+ to justify selecting him rather that spending that bit extra and going for Gibbs or Dusty

Yeah that's sort of where I'm at. I'm looking at maybe doing the same and just letting my absolute POD in Duncan go for the week instead of Titch, so I can see how Gibbs goes and then bring back Duncan in a couple of weeks once his BE evens out. At the moment he has a BE of 125 which is the highest in my team, and I see him going about 110 this week. Gibbs has a BE of 107 but I see him going about 130 or so, so that's another avenue I'm looking at. My safe trade is to just go down from Lobb to Z Guthrie (if I want the 200K) or Bonner with DPP so I can have Fritsch on field, but I'm just looking at all the options before I do any of that.

 

[Dupogi]

Yeah that's sort of where I'm at. I'm looking at maybe doing the same and just letting my absolute POD in Duncan go for the week instead of Titch, so I can see how Gibbs goes and then bring back Duncan in a couple of weeks once his BE evens out. At the moment he has a BE of 125 which is the highest in my team, and I see him going about 110 this week. Gibbs has a BE of 107 but I see him going about 130 or so, so that's another avenue I'm looking at. My safe trade is to just go down from Lobb to Z Guthrie (if I want the 200K) or Bonner with DPP so I can have Fritsch on field, but I'm just looking at all the options before I do any of that.

Are you going cold on Duncan? 110 wasnt bad, but how many cheap Defensive 50 marks does he get? Im not sure it is a good thing or a bad thing, but they seem to pick him out for that cheap chip kick to get it into his hands.

 

[Shadow89]

Are you going cold on Duncan? 110 wasnt bad, but how many cheap Defensive 50 marks does he get? Im not sure it is a good thing or a bad thing, but they seem to pick him out for that cheap chip kick to get it into his hands.

Nah not going cold at all. More that his breakeven is high and if I was gonna experiment with anyone for a premium trade, it would be him given that he'll lose money this week. He usually goes 105-110 against the Hawks and should be around that mark again this week, but Gibbs could go 130+ and I also get to put the VC on him with the loophole and see how that goes. Again, probably won't do it, but that's the other option I'm looking at right now, with Duncan to come back in Round 4 when we play our first home game and he evens out again.

He's one of those players that has a huge tank and gets all over the ground. He's also our most elite kick besides Thurlow and now Ablett, and he takes a lot of marks and tackles well to add to his score as well. We do often use him as that bail out kick off half back, as he can usually hit that pass back into the centre that opens up the field. He's definitely got a fantasy game about him.

 

[Zuma]

What’s the consensus with Zerritt? Hold or?