Trades Round 5 Trades

[WaynesWorld19]

How many players jump from a 50 average to a 100 average?

 

[Judd_Magic]

Judd_Magic Here2tellyouwhy hope I did you blokes justice...

Mateyman strap yourself in (probably got all of the details wrong lol)

It was a late Autumn day in a town like any other, an otherwise unremarkable, non-descript locale. But one that was about to go down in history.

It was 2014 and Jarryd Roughead was at his mercurial best (or worst, depending on your punto de vista). He had burst out of the gates with a 125 average over the first three rounds of the year, only to go 45 in round 4, leaving a stubborn stain on the collective underpant of proud SuperCoaches around this great brown land.

It was at this time that a chain of events was set in motion that would send shockwaves through the injury as a young Judd_Magic was about to teach the world that there is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.
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And drinking scotch. And his favourite gemstone's the ruby.

He looked at his trades: Out: Roughead, In: Zorko. And why not? After all, 45 was nothing to write home about, Roughy was giving him the absolute shits, and Zorko the Magnificent was looking succulent – nay, moist. And Roughy, well Roughy had not just let himself down, he had broken a proud Supercoach’s heart.

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Filled with a sense of righteous conviction, JM pulled the trigger. BANG! Zorko -> Roughy was on the books.

Fast forward to the Tuesday heading into round 6. Young Josh Caddy, known “affectionately” to those in the business as the Caddyhack, had just pumped out a 24. Couldn’t even bring up the quarter century, the useless bastard, he was averaging a paltry 57 on the year and besides, he had a sh*t haircut. Had to go.
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Who the fu** gives up a 100m penalty anyway?

JM paused, taking in the scene with the visual acuity of the feared velociraptor, looking for the juiciest trade-in option to allow him to buy Caddy a one way ticket to Palookaville. And then, his eye fell upon… one Jarryd Roughead.
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But… could he trade back in a bloke he had pissed off just a week ago? He was struck by the audacity of it, the insanity – and yet, if something felt this right, so very, very right, how could it be wrong? He glanced over at the wireless, it was playing his favourite song, it had to be a sign...
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The trade was locked in, history had been made, a new era had dawned. Forget the theory of relativity, don’t worry about the combustion engine. Hell, this even tops the Hills Hoist and stump jump plough. Kicks the living sh*t out of iSnack 2.0, obviously. But so would a 3-day old turdburger, to be fair.

This was the dawning age of Aqu… no, sorry, what was I thinking, the Age of the Roughy. The Double Roughy, the Triple Roughy.
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Other brave explorers were to pick up where JM had left off, the intrepid, crafty smashing H2TYW even breaking the SC sound barrier by pumping out a lazy Quadruple Roughy, if you don’t mind, and doing it on the bit. Didn’t even break a sweat, the big fella. Because up in those stratospheres, they don’t sweat like we mere mortals, they piss a bountiful, lustrous stream of excellence.
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Remember, fellow brethren, fellow sithren, the journey of a thousand trades starts with a single, saucy sideways.

I’m Derryn Hinch. Or Franco Cozzo. Or Corey Worthington's hairdresser's second cousin. It doesn't really matter in the end. What matters is the legend.

TLDR: Roughy = trade a bloke out, trade him back in at another point in time, usually fairly close to the original tradeout.

 

[zoomba23]

He’s played 11 career games. He averaged 50 across 5 games last year. Lloyd has seasons of doing it.

Not saying he’ll necessarily be a keeper, but Jiath has improved astronomically over the offseason. You can’t use his scoring last season as reasoning because he’s a different player now. Like using Piggy’s scoring from his first season as justification for why he couldn’t go 110 in his second season. Saying that he is still young and inexperienced and I expect him to revert to an 85-95 average for the year

 

[Bjchan13]

$100 left over if I go Kosi:
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[Here2tellyouwhy]

Judd_Magic Here2tellyouwhy hope I did you blokes justice...

Mateyman strap yourself in (probably got all of the details wrong lol)

It was a late Autumn day in a town like any other, an otherwise unremarkable, non-descript locale. But one that was about to go down in history.

It was 2014 and Jarryd Roughead was at his mercurial best (or worst, depending on your punto de vista). He had burst out of the gates with a 125 average over the first three rounds of the year, only to go 45 in round 4, leaving a stubborn stain on the collective underpant of proud SuperCoaches around this great brown land.

It was at this time that a chain of events was set in motion that would send shockwaves through the injury as a young Judd_Magic was about to teach the world that there is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.
View attachment 1101094
And drinking scotch. And his favourite gemstone's the ruby.

He looked at his trades: Out: Roughead, In: Zorko. And why not? After all, 45 was nothing to write home about, Roughy was giving him the absolute shits, and Zorko the Magnificent was looking succulent – nay, moist. And Roughy, well Roughy had not just let himself down, he had broken a proud Supercoach’s heart.

View attachment 1101096

Filled with a sense of righteous conviction, JM pulled the trigger. BANG! Zorko -> Roughy was on the books.

Fast forward to the Tuesday heading into round 6. Young Josh Caddy, known “affectionately” to those in the business as the Caddyhack, had just pumped out a 24. Couldn’t even bring up the quarter century, the useless bastard, he was averaging a paltry 57 on the year and besides, he had a sh*t haircut. Had to go.
View attachment 1101097
Who the fu** gives up a 100m penalty anyway?

JM paused, taking in the scene with the visual acuity of the feared velociraptor, looking for the juiciest trade-in option to allow him to buy Caddy a one way ticket to Palookaville. And then, his eye fell upon… one Jarryd Roughead.
View attachment 1101092

But… could he trade back in a bloke he had pissed off just a week ago? He was struck by the audacity of it, the insanity – and yet, if something felt this right, so very, very right, how could it be wrong? He glanced over at the wireless, it was playing his favourite song, it had to be a sign...
View attachment 1101099

The trade was locked in, history had been made, a new era had dawned. Forget the theory of relativity, don’t worry about the combustion engine. Hell, this even tops the Hills Hoist and stump jump plough. Kicks the living sh*t out of iSnack 2.0, obviously. But so would a 3-day old turdburger, to be fair.

This was the dawning age of Aqu… no, sorry, what was I thinking, the Age of the Roughy. The Double Roughy, the Triple Roughy.
View attachment 1101100

Other brave explorers were to pick up where JM had left off, the intrepid, crafty smashing H2TYW even breaking the SC sound barrier by pumping out a lazy Quadruple Roughy, if you don’t mind, and doing it on the bit. Didn’t even break a sweat, the big fella. Because up in those stratospheres, they don’t sweat like we mere mortals, they piss a bountiful, lustrous stream of excellence.
View attachment 1101101

Remember, fellow brethren, fellow sithren, the journey of a thousand trades starts with a single, saucy sideways.

I’m Derryn Hinch. Or Franco Cozzo. Or Corey Worthington's hairdresser's second cousin. It doesn't really matter in the end. What matters is the legend.

TLDR: Roughy = trade a bloke out, trade him back in at another point in time, usually fairly close to the original tradeout.

 

[Farm Boy]

Cripps and Taranto out.
Bony and Macrae in.

Easy decision. Cripps is finished.


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[Hack_Watts]

Thoughts on Gov as a helmet replacement now that treetrunks is dead H2TYW?

Reckon we'll bring Witherden in or is Gov the new Gull?

Tommy Barrass also looking the goods. Even without bunga our backline is sick. So glad we drafted Shepherd over manbun even if he is a great footballer. Love Shep.

Shame our midfield is poo and Jack Darling

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Jack Darling

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.4

5star

can't take a chest mark.

 

[JRyan23]

Daniel to Ridley
Campbell to Waterman


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[Here2tellyouwhy]

Thoughts on Gov as a helmet replacement now that treetrunks is dead H2TYW?

Reckon we'll bring Witherden in or is Gov the new Gull?

Tommy Barrass also looking the goods. Even without bunga our backline is sick. So glad we drafted Shepherd over manbun even if he is a great footballer. Love Shep.

Shame our midfield is poo and Jack Darling

27

Jack Darling

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.4

5star

can't take a chest mark.

I've had Gov once before. Look he scored 100 against the Saints but he took 10 Intercept marks which was because were shit not because Hurn died.
Had lots of kicks. He gets r*ped hard by CD.
22 disposals, 20 by foot at 81%DE, 5 contested, 571 metres gained (Hurns role), 10 marks.

Maybe if we won that would have been a 110 game. Priced at $432 is ok but hes not a keeper and Hurn will be back.

Shep is god. I really wanna 3way with him and Hurn hey

 

[freddy mercury]

Can you rotate a MID/FWD rookie from your midfield to forwards ?

Yeah, Brockman, got a suggestion for me, sir?

 

[Max the great]

Pretty sure my best move is

Orazio + Taranto

To

Steele + Dick Traecy

Tell me otherwise?

 

[Max the great]

Pretty sure my best move is

Orazio + Taranto

To

Steele + Dick Traecy

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Sorry. This is my team before trades.

 

[Daitro]

Daniel -> Ridley
Campbell -> Waterman/ Impey depending on whether I can convince myself that Impey's a keeper F6

 

[Caztheconquerer]

need a bit of trade advice guys, I want to go butters and Jordan to Oliver and waterman but if I do it would mean either playing 2 rookies on field forward or playing a brockman/Scott type on field in the mids. Anyone see something different maybe that gets more reliable scoring on field. Team below
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Anybody?

 

[Judd_Magic]

Anybody?

I'd do those 2 trades mate, they are fine.

Ideally you'd want an Impey in your forward line so you have Rowe on the bench but it's still ok imo.

 

[gutsroy]

Keeping Daniel. Back him in to finish with a 95-100 average. Won't be enough for a top 6 defender (Lloyd, Ridley, Short, Stewart, Laird, Mills for a start should finish well over) but that seems like a luxury trade in the back end of the season, not for now.
Thing with him is that he was averaging 90 prior to this round, and regardless of trading him now you've copped the 19 and price drop.
72 average, 80k price drop and a trade if you trade him now.
If you keep him you get a chance at improving that average to the 95 mark, his price doesn't matter, and 0 trades used.

I don't have Josh Kelly but a guy who has scored 90, 90, 98 and 100 with a 4 year history of 114-117 screams "keep" to me. M8 luxury upgrade at end of season...plenty of teams will try trade him in soon. I started Petracca who went 91 through the first 3 rounds, then bang one 146 and he's up to 104.
Kelly must surely have one of the best 140+ records about.

Yeah, definitely agree with the general logic, where everyone will differ is their assumptions in terms of future output.

• Saw Daniel as a 100 candidate, don't see him as going any better than 90 upon his return. Say he gives up 10+ pts/wk to the topliners (10*18 =180)
• This week, many will have to cover him with a rookie. Conservative estimate of differential Butts/Kosi to a replacement premo: 50+pts
• That would place the pt gain more at 230 pts. Everyone will differ in their estimates of the value of a trade, but 230 pts probably passable here.
• The catch is how much liquidity folks will have in terms of a single trade replacement target. I'm 2k short of a Mills, e.g., don't love options below.

In terms of Kelly, understand that viewpoint and there's definitely a world where that happens, but the 150+ scores have come in routs and in a conducive role.
The question is how many of them trickle through when neither of those preconditions is fulfilled (assuming they're causatively linked). Just don't know...

Really interesting to be stepped through the alternative arguments, absolutely food for thought - cheers

 

[Cactus_]

Anybody?

It is a tough call on Jordan. He might have run his race. But he had low time on ground this week. They might have done that to keep him fresh and he might still have some good games and scores left in him, and might still rise in price quite a bit from 200K.

In going Butters to Oliver you’re getting a excellent primo, so no issue with that part of the trade. It’s the finding the extra 100K when none of the rookies have really maxed out that is the problem. If you’re set on Oliver then I don’t really see a better way of doing it than what you’ve come up with. I guess you could go early on Flynn to Treacy, but that probably feels worse than going early on Jordan.

Only other options would be finding some value to trade Butters to I guess? Cal Ward? Heppell? You’re mostly guns and rookies so I assume these options don’t appeal that much to you.

 

[Cactus_]

Yeah, definitely agree with the general logic, where everyone will differ is their assumptions in terms of future output.

• Saw Daniel as a 100 candidate, don't see him as going any better than 90 upon his return. Say he gives up 10+ pts/wk to the topliners (10*18 =180)
• This week, many will have to cover him with a rookie. Conservative estimate of differential Butts/Kosi to a replacement premo: 50+pts
• That would place the pt gain more at 230 pts. Everyone will differ in their estimates of the value of a trade, but 230 pts probably passable here.
• The catch is how much liquidity folks will have in terms of a single trade replacement target. I'm 2k short of a Mills, e.g., don't love options below.

In terms of Kelly, understand that viewpoint and there's definitely a world where that happens, but the 150+ scores have come in routs and in a conducive role.
The question is how many of them trickle through when neither of those preconditions is fulfilled (assuming they're causatively linked). Just don't know...

Really interesting to be stepped through the alternative arguments, absolutely food for thought - cheers

If you flick Daniel and Kelly what is the best combo you can bring in? How many trades left and how many upgrades left to do?

 

[rocker_oz33]

Yrp, still taking enough. Just played sh*t in r2 and 4

I thought he wasn't great round one but scored pretty good.

Unsure to grab him as a cheap D5 once he bottoms out.


159 BE he could be 430k odd.

 

[gutsroy]

If you flick Daniel and Kelly what is the best combo you can bring in? How many trades left and how many upgrades left to do?

G'day mate,
Have 74k, 26 trades and 9-10 upgrades left.

One set of trades which would work (purely in terms of having the cash) would be:
Daniels + Sharp > Mills + Waterman

In terms of total cash assuming Daniel + Kelly + kitty, $1,097,900, I think.

 

[Kadog]

It's too early to upgrade. Sit tight, get the best rookies and upgrade in a few weeks.

Thank your lucky stars you don't have sh*t trucks like Neale, Gaff, Merrett and Jelly.

 

[Cactus_]

G'day mate,
Have 74k, 26 trades and 9-10 upgrades left.

One set of trades which would work (purely in terms of having the cash) would be:
Daniels + Sharp > Mills + Waterman

In terms of total cash assuming Daniel + Kelly + kitty, $1,097,900, I think.

I know the theory is not to sideways too many primos but I’d honestly be pretty tempted to a trade like this.

Disclaimer - I didn’t start Daniels or Sharp.

Sharp is looking like a bust I think. Unlikely to be back soon and didn’t score well enough when playing. Waterman despite being a tall forward is more mature, should have some decent job security, and for mine passed the eye test.

Daniels, when I looked at him preseason I thought - doesn’t have a high ceiling but does have good role security and great consistency - now he’s failed in two out of four games (and one time terribly) and the consistency that was one of his main assets doesn’t seem to be there. I’d be tempted to get out while he’s still worth most of his starting value. Put it this way, I don’t own him and I’m not thinking of getting when he bottoms out.

 

[toxic]

And peeps be complaining they run outta trades.
So much sideways being proposed

 

[Kadog]

And peeps be complaining they run outta trades.
So much sideways being proposed

Thoughts on Caleb tox?

 

[Kadog]

Anybody?

Butterz>Danger
Jordan>Waterman (via Campbell)