Umpiring Round 7 Crows v Pies Umpiring

[Ginnieboy]

I believe Simon Meridith was one of the culprits, he has form against us too.

 

[Ginnieboy]

I actually felt as though the commentators did their best to try and gloss over it. Especially Lewis - I could almost smell his tears through my TV screen after the final siren

As Carey said, every commentator on C7 and I assume Fox aren’t allowed to bag the umpires, it’s written into the TV rights.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

 

[croweater 41]

The JDG deliberate was ****ed from the start. Murphy should have been off the field under the blood rule (or at a bare minimum concussion protocols) and replaced by whoever was coming onto the ground. Aware that concussion you can’t get someone straight on like a blood rule but should have been afforded the time to get off the ground as the gates were right there.

JDG then rightfully so got the ball out to stop play again which shouldn’t have been pinged (to the letter of the law yes, but there’s always an exception and that was it)

There was also one against us (shock horror pies fans) where the ump from 100m away called a holding free to Frampton(?) in congestion. And the non call on Maynard booting to ball from Pedlars hand when the umpire was all of 5 meters away was appalling.

The worst of the lot may just have been the non call for Johnson in the square. I’m just not sure how that isn’t paid.

 

[SuperSteele22]

There was also one against us (shock horror pies fans) where the ump from 100m away called a holding free to Frampton(?) in congestion.

Was that the one paid on our forward line when O'Brien wrapped both arms around him in the ruck contest?

 

[croweater 41]

Was that the one paid on our forward line when O'Brien wrapped both arms around him in the ruck contest?

No it was a marking contest I believe on broadcast side maybe the early parts of the 4th.

The wrap was there for your first goal as much as ROB thought otherwise

 

[Magpie Since 1986]

The worst of the lot may just have been the non call for Johnson in the square. I’m just not sure how that isn’t paid.

Because the decision would have directly resulted in a Collingwood goal at a critical time in front of a rowdy home crowd.... in other words the umpire was a massive coward and didnt have the balls to blow the whistle.

 

[Visions]

Number 19 should be sacked tomorrow.

Here's the blind man with his interpretation of Swan Lake.

 

[beez]

As Carey said, every commentator on C7 and I assume Fox aren’t allowed to bag the umpires, it’s written into the TV rights.

Commentators criticise the umpires every week on every platform.

Stop parroting such bs.

 

[SuperSteele22]

Commentators criticise the umpires every week on every platform.

Stop parroting such bs.

They often query individual decisions, but they never, ever mention when the umpiring as a whole is below standard. That's a directive.

Another one that comes to mind was when Murphy was called to play on in the back pocket after 2 seconds and got smothered despite never deviating off his line. Absolutely farcical

 

[freddy mercury]

AFL will come out tomorrow and be absolutely sure those two examples were fair and reasonable.

 

[#23 Hill]

Glad we won, so we can really take the umps to task without people just dismissing it as us making excuses for a loss.

 

[Kappa]

I loved the free kick against Moore when the Adelaide fans started booing because they thought it was bullshit Moore got a free... they couldn't even believe it was a free TO them.

 

[Magma]

i hope the jdg one can at least highlight how ridiculous it is to have play going with trainers in the vicinity. that used to never happen and i hate it.

 

[Drought Break]

Most folks have a go at umpires due to feeling for their team. Everybody does it. But today was seriously blatant favouritism.

AFL needs an approach by the pies on this matter. It was so obvious even the commentators couldn’t help noting it this time.

Except for that idiot Jordan Lewis who reckons smashing a player in the face in front on contact is not a free. Another known Pies hater. Probably got lessons from his mate Dunstall

 

[Ginnieboy]

They often query individual decisions, but they never, ever mention when the umpiring as a whole is below standard. That's a directive.

Another one that comes to mind was when Murphy was called to play on in the back pocket after 2 seconds and got smothered despite never deviating off his line. Absolutely farcical

The last 2 years or so they barely say anything, you can tell their biting their tongues, so frustrating, the umpires are a protected species in every facet of the game, the only reason Andy Maher spoke out is because he doesn’t come under the C7 football department, we won’t be seeing tweets from anyone who works for C7 or Fox football

 

[Seedsfan]

I just rewatched the Murphy incident:

• That’s a mark
• That’s also high contact
• Maybe front on contact too as he didn’t make contact with the ball, but hard to say he was looking at the ball

Either way, he deserved to take the kick. At worst, play needed to be stopped when he had:

1. Blood pouring from his nose
2. Doctors escorting him from the field

I know umpires need to adjudicate based on rules but a degree of common sense and intuitive decision making should be required to umpire at the elite level. Imagine JDG took the ball and gets tackled by the oppo player chasing him, barrelling into the doctors and the likely concussed Murphy.
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I don’t think it was “blatant cheating” but I do wonder if the umpire was influenced by the crowd and didn’t want to blow the whistle. Which is obviously inexcusable. I wonder what the AFL are going to say about this.

All they had to do was follow the rules

No common sense was needed, play is meant to be stopped if doctors treating an injured players gets in the way of the play. This was a clear case of that.

Give them the benefit of the doubt and say they were blindsided to the contact. Also give them further benefit of doubt and say they didn’t see the blood. As soon as Murphy and the doctors impede the game play should be stopped

 

[BringFevBack2021]

All they had to do was follow the rules

No common sense was needed, play is meant to be stopped if doctors treating an injured players gets in the way of the play. This was a clear case of that.

Give them the benefit of the doubt and say they were blindsided to the contact. Also give them further benefit of doubt and say they didn’t see the blood. As soon as Murphy and the doctors impede the game play should be stopped

I'm not sure if that is the rule but it should be. However, if you are confident that is the rule then I'm happy to take your word as truth. Either way, it was a really bad look for the game. The Crows should've also used that moment to set a precedent for good sportsmanship and not accepted the free kick so that the umpire could've thrown it in.

 

[theouthouse]

How can JDG be insufficient intent when he is clearly passing the ball to a teammate in space, when said teammate then proceeds to just says "**** you Jordan, what's with the shit disposals lately?", not play the ball, and storm off in a huff, and haze of concussion, taking his mates with him.

That and the AFL should have a look into umpire number 19. Probably worth a fine of $10 000 for those two decisions in that passage of play alone.

 

[HairyO]

The sheer hypocrisy of the AFL and their optics for player safety/ protecting the head.

How could a single one of these umpires not:
1. Pay a free kick to Murphy when Fogarty obviously makes high contact.
2. Stop the game until he goes off in the arms of the medicos as a player with a known concussion history.
3. Stop the game when the ball comes in the immediate proximity of a player being taken from the field when De Goey does the right thing in avoiding the medicos?

Was an obvious free.

For 2 and 3 it depends on whether the doctors signalled to the umpires. If they do then play stops immediately. If not, then it really comes down to whether the ball is likely to end up where the injured player is.

As for the quality of umpiring, nearly every game every week sees one side heavily supported by the umpires - whether in total free kicks paid, or in the free kicks ignored, but also in little things like enforcing 15m kicks when calling Marks.

Port had 3 late in the game where the ball easily went 20m called as Play On, helping the Saints get the ball back.

 

[#23 Hill]

What about the one where the Crows player was standing well outside the boundary line and his team mate handpassed it to him? Why wasn't that deliberate?

 

[Rabish Binney]

I'm not sure if that is the rule but it should be. However, if you are confident that is the rule then I'm happy to take your word as truth. Either way, it was a really bad look for the game. The Crows should've also used that moment to set a precedent for good sportsmanship and not accepted the free kick so that the umpire could've thrown it in.

It's not soccer FFS....

However Collingwood were reamed, there's no doubt about that.

 

[Magpie Since 1986]

For 2 and 3 it depends on whether the doctors signalled to the umpires. If they do then play stops immediately. If not, then it really comes down to whether the ball is likely to end up where the injured player is.

Wrong. It should have been a blood rule, that has nothing to do with the doctor signalling to the umpire. The umpires sees blood at a stoppage and then needs to stop the play and wait until the player bleeding is replaced. That what should have happened with Murphy spewing blood from his face.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

It's not soccer FFS....

However Collingwood were reamed, there's no doubt about that.

Yes, point taken but it was a bad look for the game. Not a knock on Adelaide per se so sorry if I put it across as if it were.

 

[El Doederino]

I loved the free kick against Moore when the Adelaide fans started booing because they thought it was bullshit Moore got a free... they couldn't even believe it was a free TO them.

That one was a free to Pedlar. He got front position, and Moore chopped his arms.