Round 8 trades

[toxic]

Even to trade in the 2nd best player pendles?
JM is a bit short on cash i believe - certainly know how that feels. I've only got $7k

really depends who your M9 is.

so it its Pendles + Acres

125 + 60

or its Polec + Goddard

90 + 105

obivously numbers will fluctuate but looking at it your M9 gets super important towards finals with trades running out

 

[Daniels]

Horses for courses!
Personally, I'm not trading Polec as I have many cows to cull - they are mooing well, but they will be culled way before Polec.
JM situation is different, he's playing a catch up game and wants a strong midfield in a hurry

As weird as it sounds, I wouldn't call Polec >>> Pendles a "huge" upgrade ATM as he is avg 101, but that's just me... surely a bigger problem elsewhere.

 

[Jiska]

Jiska you don't need to trade.....you're playing me this week.

LOL..

I'm happy (somewhat) to lose this week. I don't see any point in burning trades/cash just to bring in a player that will score me a 0 in the coming weeks. I'm just going to suck up whatever comes my way with an eye to the long-term strategy which has got me to where I am at the moment.

 

[Jiska]

Am I the only one that feels the Burgoyne hype will end in tears?

Nope. I totally agree.

 

[torn]

Need some advice... ranked 229 overall - was gonna go through byes without caring but the ranking has me wanting to get higher haha
Have 22 Trades & $220,000 in bank
big issues this week.

thinking of doing
Mitchell OUT for Watson (via Mcdonald DPP)
Jaench OUT for Simpson

thougts?

 

[rocker_oz33]

Might go Lemmens > J.Lloyd (b/e -50)seeing i missed the Robbo cash train.

 

[The_Steadier]

Other part of me is saying downgrade them both to Hartang or J.Lloyd and Acres so I can get more scoring on the ground this week as I already have Ablett, Beams and Swan out of my mids so Crouch makes it 4. Would also make some quick cash to use on upgrading Polec to Pendles next week but then wouldn't have anyone in my midfield to use to upgrade to Selwood.

I want to upgrade Polec to Pendles next week and then upgrade either of Kelly or Crouch to Selwood in round 11.

Maybe I should downgrade Kelly to Acres next week?

WTF do I do? LOL!

It's these sorts of short sighted decisions that compound your 'bad luck'.
Acres was playing vfl 2's a couple of weeks ago- what happens if/when he's stuck in your team on 2 or 3 games? Same with hartung.
Meanwhile you've ditched mooing cows scoring well too early for selwood etc who is only outscoring kelly/crouch etc by 10 points a game.
Meanwhile you've also ditched the bargain of the year-a cheap mid keeper in polec and sold the farm just so you could get pendlebury in and an extra 20 points per game and you have no trades left when your 'bad luck' comes knocking?

How bout doing something radical and start by doing nothing.
Start there- and stick to the basics, buy low, sell high.
Sometimes the smartest thing is to do nothing.
Might come in handy when all that 'bad luck' hits you like a single lightning rod in a storm.

 

[Sir Skid]

It's these sorts of short sighted decisions that compound your 'bad luck'.
Acres was playing vfl 2's a couple of weeks ago- what happens if/when he's stuck in your team on 2 or 3 games? Same with hartung.
Meanwhile you've ditched mooing cows scoring well too early for selwood etc who is only outscoring kelly/crouch etc by 10 points a game.
Meanwhile you've also ditched the bargain of the year-a cheap mid keeper in polec and sold the farm just so you could get pendlebury in and an extra 20 points per game and you have no trades left when your 'bad luck' comes knocking?

How bout doing something radical and start by doing nothing.
Start there- and stick to the basics, buy low, sell high.
Sometimes the smartest thing is to do nothing.
Might come in handy when all that 'bad luck' hits you like a single lightning rod in a storm.

So basically your telling him not to be Judd_Magic
That will never work and I for one hope he doesn't change his strategy to this game.
JM's one of the most entertaining on here and still ends up hitting most of us out of the ball park for overall.

 

[The_Steadier]

So basically your telling him not to be Judd_Magic
That will never work and I for one hope he doesn't change his strategy to this game.
JM's one of the most entertaining on here and still ends up hitting most of us out of the ball park for overall.

that's fine, I agree it's a fun approach- my only issue is with the woe is me bleeting when it all goes ass up, much to nobody's surprise.

 

[Super Hans]

Am I the only one that feels the Burgoyne hype will end in tears?

Nope. He will get Mitchell's tag now, will still average 90 odd but will be very up and down (I know he has been consistent so far).

 

[Mitchy D]

Thoughts?

Or mitch > simpson/johnson

 

[Daniels]

Nope. He will get Mitchell's tag now, will still average 90 odd but will be very up and down (I know he has been consistent so far).

True.

Just surprises me that he is a 'must have' all of sudden. Gotta be in the same category of risk as Boomer and Roo for mine. Gotta be weary of bringing in those 31+ yo age bracket IMO.

 

[JuddgementDay]

So basically your telling him not to be Judd_Magic
That will never work and I for one hope he doesn't change his strategy to this game.
JM's one of the most entertaining on here and still ends up hitting most of us out of the ball park for overall.

+1
I like to see him go up the ranking again and be that entertaining JM.
By the way where are you Judd_Magic, it has been too quiet around here

 

[Dangerwooodlett]

For those considering Burgoyne for Mitchell - I think Birchall and Rob Murphy are much better pickups. Both are Rnd 9 byes and cost $450k ($40k less than Burgoyne). I believe they will average similar to Burgoyne by the end of the year.

 

[rocker_oz33]

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Thoughts?

Or mitch > simpson/johnson

Cutler might get the boot with Hanley back this week.

 

[grouse mate]

True.

Just surprises me that he is a 'must have' all of sudden. Gotta be in the same category of risk as Boomer and Roo for mine. Gotta be weary of bringing in those 31+ yo age bracket IMO.

People are looking for a Mitchell replacement and the one's that have taken some time to plan what they are doing around byes can't ask for a better replacement. $10k cheaper, a better ave and doesn't affect the bye structure. For me its either Burgoyne, Hodge, Simpson, Hurn? Bob Murphy.

The last line of your post is just a troll.

 

[Daniels]

For those considering Burgoyne for Mitchell - I think Birchall and Rob Murphy are much better pickups. Both are Rnd 9 byes and cost $450k ($40k less than Burgoyne). I believe they will average similar to Burgoyne by the end of the year.

People are looking for a Mitchell replacement and the one's that have taken some time to plan what they are doing around byes can't ask for a better replacement. $10k cheaper, a better ave and doesn't affect the bye structure. For me its either Burgoyne, Hodge, Simpson, Hurn? Bob Murphy.

The last line of your post is just a troll.

Hodge injury prone. Simpson cue the 90 avg. Hurn wasn't bottomed out enough with around 195 BE. Murphy yuck. All look like replacement downgrades to me!

 

[grouse mate]

For those considering Burgoyne for Mitchell - I think Birchall and Rob Murphy are much better pickups. Both are Rnd 9 byes and cost $450k ($40k less than Burgoyne). I believe they will average similar to Burgoyne by the end of the year.

Not keen on Birchall. Disposal count is way up on previous years but his average points are down. Murphy falls under the 31 yo rule just so you just cant pick those blokes...

 

[Jiska]

It's these sorts of short sighted decisions that compound your 'bad luck'.
Acres was playing vfl 2's a couple of weeks ago- what happens if/when he's stuck in your team on 2 or 3 games? Same with hartung.
Meanwhile you've ditched mooing cows scoring well too early for selwood etc who is only outscoring kelly/crouch etc by 10 points a game.
Meanwhile you've also ditched the bargain of the year-a cheap mid keeper in polec and sold the farm just so you could get pendlebury in and an extra 20 points per game and you have no trades left when your 'bad luck' comes knocking?

How bout doing something radical and start by doing nothing.
Start there- and stick to the basics, buy low, sell high.
Sometimes the smartest thing is to do nothing.
Might come in handy when all that 'bad luck' hits you like a single lightning rod in a storm.

So basically your telling him not to be Judd_Magic
That will never work and I for one hope he doesn't change his strategy to this game.
JM's one of the most entertaining on here and still ends up hitting most of us out of the ball park for overall.

+1
I like to see him go up the ranking again and be that entertaining JM.
By the way where are you Judd_Magic, it has been too quiet around here

-1.

JM is in a different position at Round 8 this year to where he's normally at. Keeping a calm, cool head and trading for long-term strategy is the best way, to climb the ranks - not by making ballsy radical trades. If you're ranked in the top 5k you can take those risks and recover if they don't come off. When you're ranked 21,878 and 1,207 points off the leader (or 172 points per week on average), you need to make safer and smarter trades to work your way up.

TOTALLY IMO. Not saying anyone is wrong or right with their approach/strategies, just my thoughts.

 

[j0rdy1]

For those considering Burgoyne for Mitchell - I think Birchall and Rob Murphy are much better pickups. Both are Rnd 9 byes and cost $450k ($40k less than Burgoyne). I believe they will average similar to Burgoyne by the end of the year.

I'm a Dogs fan I wouldn't bring in Bob for Mitchell, I feel like Bob is out of form at the moment and may be carrying a niggle. He had a ripper start to the year so I think its definitely a injury/niggle thats got him out of form.

 

[Dangerwooodlett]

Hodge injury prone. Simpson cue the 90 avg. Hurn wasn't bottomed out enough with around 195 BE. Murphy yuck. All look like replacement downgrades to me!

My take is defenders only need to be consistent and reliably score you your 80-100 pts week in week out. Barring Mcveigh, Bartel, Mitchell (who is now injured), there aren't too many defenders who can go big and therefore be "Must Haves". I think if you have McVeigh and Bartel, then fill the rest of your DEF with reliable 80-100 pts scorers, then its just about as good as it gets.

Just my 2c.

 

[Daniels]

My take is defenders only need to be consistent and reliably score you your 80-100 pts week in week out. Barring Mcveigh, Bartel, Mitchell (who is now injured), there aren't too many defenders who can go big and therefore be "Must Haves". I think if you have McVeigh and Bartel, then fill the rest of your DEF with reliable 80-100 pts scorers, then its just about as good as it gets.

Just my 2c.

Agreed. I would take those 2 (McVeigh and Bartel) and include Walker as 3 better options (all proven). Or possibly Swallow if not already owned. Hurn could be good, but wait for bottom out. I could see Bartel being nursed, but he is a real damned if ya do, damned if ya don't scenario. Makes no sense to go backwards with Mitchell. Upgrade all the way!

We all know the yo-yo shenanigans DEF's have.

 

[MrChristo]

Not keen on Birchall. Disposal count is way up on previous years but his average points are down. Murphy falls under the 31 yo rule just so you just cant pick those blokes...

Birchall's low tackle count is hurting his numbers this year. If he starts wrapping a few guys up a week he could av. ~95 from here in. (Hasn't ever av'd over 95 fwiw...)

Burgoyne is an interesting one. Av'ing 101, with all but one game 96+ is hard to argue with...with a full team (at least all the big guns) in most of those.
Mitchell out could hurt, either with a tag, or being pushed back to HB...but in saying that, Mitchell missed rd 2 (as did Hodge) and Burgoyne had 30 touches 123/130.

It's interesting to looks at the Hawthorn evolution. Obviously at Port, Burgoyne was a consistent 80+DT/100+SC player...
...first year @ Hawks (2010) he had their 3rd highest possession count for the year (behind Mitchell and Hodge), and 4th highest DT av. [According to FF was tagged in 3 games in 2010, and was still in the top 5 for possessions on the day.]
...and potentially ever more important was that he av'd the 3rd most tackles behind Sewell and Hodge.

Over the next 2 years he drops well down the list behind Sewell, Shiels, Lewis, Birchall, Suckling, Smith, Ellis, Whitecross, Young, Guerra...

...but now, with the majority of those players (still at the club obviously) playing, he's back in the top 3 for possessions this year behind Mitchell and (interestingly) Birchall. AND, 4th in tackling.

So I wonder...is his kryptonite a possible return of Brad Sewell??!

In the last 7 years, Sewell had his lowest av. possessions in 2010...and slowly crept back up, while Burgoyne's snuck back down...until this year...

Co-incidence?? And, if there is anything in it, are we taking Sewell's return seriously anyway??

 

[SnappyHappy]

What about Kade Kolodjashnij as a mini-downgrade for Mitchell? Depending on bye structure obviously, but I could get away with this. Is it too risky bringing in a first year player? Will KK be a keeper? Thoughts?

 

[Spider Eater]

Remember when people used to talk about Trent McKenzie?