Opinion Sack Hinkley 11 - Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest

[Bump Bailey]

There still out there folks



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That is truly a harrowing read.

The fact there are still Ken defenders out there shows what a cult-like organisation the club has become. They're indoctrinated.

And that, my friends, is why we must do whatever it takes to get noticed.

 

[tribey]

I'm not sure why he would want to continue under this sort of scrutiny anyway.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

i think ill literally puke the day this conman passes choco games coached record.

Surely Choco will go hard at Ken some time between now and him failing in finals to help ensure it doesn't happen.

I love Choco but I can't see him missing this opportunity.

 

[Sewer de Lance]

I don't feel like I'm duty bound to boo. In fact it is starting to turn into groupthink, which makes me not want to be a part of it. I'm my own person and make my own decisions and will not follow a pack.

In pure frustration after getting spanked at home by Brisbane i get the booing. It's not what i would normally condone but i can see why it happened, it was spontaneous similar to when the umpires get booed off after they've reamed us.

But i don't like where this is heading now, with it no longer being spontaneous and supporters on here talking as if it's already a done deal that they are going to boo no matter what. Honestly, if we play a great game and have a good win and there is still booing taking place, that is just going to come across a bit pathetic. Essentially, feeding the media narrative that we are just a bunch of blood thirsty imbeciles.

I also don't think it is as helpful as what you think it is. Just like your Sack Hinkley sign, it achieved nothing, he is still here 6 years later.

I also think barring some miracle where we completely turn this season around that he is gone at the end of the year so i don't see feel the same sense of urgency that he needs to be marched out of Alberton right at this minute.

You’re right, how dare some supporters ‘Boo’ a coach after 251 games of perpetual failure, we should be giving the man a standing ovation instead. Fair dinkum mate, get some viagra into you before it’s too late.

 

[PowerBaz]

Is he still here?

 

[Bump Bailey]

This is why Twitter needs a laugh button.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I don't feel like I'm duty bound to boo. In fact it is starting to turn into groupthink, which makes me not want to be a part of it. I'm my own person and make my own decisions and will not follow a pack.

In pure frustration after getting spanked at home by Brisbane i get the booing. It's not what i would normally condone but i can see why it happened, it was spontaneous similar to when the umpires get booed off after they've reamed us.

But i don't like where this is heading now, with it no longer being spontaneous and supporters on here talking as if it's already a done deal that they are going to boo no matter what. Honestly, if we play a great game and have a good win and there is still booing taking place, that is just going to come across a bit pathetic. Essentially, feeding the media narrative that we are just a bunch of blood thirsty imbeciles.

I also don't think it is as helpful as what you think it is. Just like your Sack Hinkley sign, it achieved nothing, he is still here 6 years later.

I also think barring some miracle where we completely turn this season around that he is gone at the end of the year so i don't see feel the same sense of urgency that he needs to be marched out of Alberton right at this minute.

It happened spontaneously after the Brisbane game and his future has been the talk of the media for a week.

When one guy put a sticker up, his future was the talk of the media for a week.

Tredrea called his position untenable in a podcast and his future was the talk of the media for several weeks.

If we actually put some sustained pressure on his job instead of doing stuff here and there, it 100% puts pressure on the club to sack him. If you're too good to boo, fine. Plenty of people will and they'll do it because they're sick to death of the club at the moment. Booing is just their only means of expressing it and they've seen the media storm it caused.

It's silly to assume he'll be sacked this year after he wasn't sacked after 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022 or 2023. We win a few games and make the 8 and suddenly he's given the final year of his contract. We've seen it all before at this point.

And if you think it's different this year, you're right, but it's only different because the supporters are outwardly showing dissent, voted Tredrea in etc. It's not because we're on the cusp of the 8 after finishing near the top last year. We've actually done that several times in the past. What's different is the supporters are fed up, not attending and showing dissent when they do attend. If we take the pressure off for a second, Koch won't make a decision, he'll just let Hinkley have his contracted 2025 season.

Continuing to show dissent is important. You don't have to boo but if you want to support a good club again at some point in your life, do something and stop Helen Lovejoying supporters who are reacting reasonably to what the club is putting them through.

 

[Bump Bailey]

This is why Twitter needs a laugh button.

Seriously though, we are dealing with a whole different level of delusion when someone thinks it's the supporters who've made the club look weak.

And not the gutless administration who've lacked the courage to make a hard but necessary decision to move on a mediocre coach, instead letting him linger for 12 years, turning this situation into a powder keg and leaving the fans feeling they have no choice but to voice their opinion on game day as a last resort.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

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I thought about that the other day and wondered, how much money does one person need?

He's going to get paid out for this year, he must have banked an awful lot of money over the past 10 years and he will probably get some sort of payout on the last season of his contract.

The last couple of weeks he has looked like he's been run through a woodchipper. How badly do you want to beat up your mental health?

 

[Sharaz Jek]

This is why Twitter needs a laugh button.

There's always a rationalisation for why Ken fails, isn't there?

Last year, Caro suggested that Port had "dodged a bullet" in missing out on Brodie Grundy, claiming that the ruckman's laziness and lack of ambition was why he went to Sydney and not Port.

In truth, Grundy was probably struggling not to laugh as he heard the pitch of Port's brain-trust Kenny, Rozzee and Butters.

 

[JayPea14]

i think ill literally puke the day this conman passes choco games coached record.

I think the day this sh!tstain leaves the club or better yet gets sacked I will run up and down the boardwalk in West Beach nude in celebration

 

[Powerade 08]

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Thats exactly what we need, Kent Hinkley controlling the team with a playstation controller. We would end up next to the Titanic

 

[BornPort]

Makes the 8 and fails, yep I think he's gone.

I can't see Koch doing it but I hope you're right.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Keith Thomas agreeing with a marketing consultant that “We Exist To Win Premierships” is “unrealistic” and thus tacked on “and make our community proud”, was one of the more blatant, ‘when they tell you who they are, believe them’ moments.

Narrator: They didn't make the community proud either.

 

[Willsy10]

So just waste another season, another entire year of players careers because maybe he's gone at the end of the year? Piss weak.

The sooner the cancer is removed the sooner we can start to rebuild the club.

We are at Round 17, the year is nearly done anyway. Not sure how things are going to suddenly turn around with a interim coach.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I can't see Koch doing it but I hope you're right.

 

[philreich]

There still out there folks



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I don't understand this way of thinking - I thought we supported the Port Adelaide Football Club, not the Ken Hinkley Mental Welfare Club. The club's brand has been severely damaged by this administration, and we need to take urgent measures to get rid of it ASAP!!!!!

 

[sobrave]

We are at Round 17, the year is nearly done anyway. Not sure how things are going to suddenly turn around with a interim coach.

Have you watched football before?

In 1995 Brisbane told Robert walls he was getting the arse in rd 15. They were 4-11.

They won 6 of the next 7 games, and only just went down to the all conquering carlton "paper bags" side by 13 goals in the finals. The same team won the grand final by 10 goals and had one of the most dominant teams in history.

Collingwood ditched Buckley and went from 6-16 to 16-6 in the space of one year.

 

[Willsy10]

How many years now have you 'thought' this?

I've wanted him sacked since about halfway through 2016 but the Ben Brown massacre is when i thought he was gone.

2022 was probably the most ridiculous season he survived though.

But none of them feel as real as now.

 

[Scodges]

Yeah I don't know about that. Membership is around 60,000. How's that going to suddenly drop to 30,000. And consistent crowds of 20,000, that puts us back into the basket case category. You can kiss goodbye to a member-elected board and possibly even independent survival.

It's not just cutting your nose off to spite your face, it's trying to saw off your own head.

The booing did what it needed to. It drew attention to Hinkley and magnifies every failure. And the media won't let it go now. The Saints game barely saved him.

Short of a miraculous premiership - maybe a grand final - I can't see him surviving this year. I'm not sure why he would want to continue under this sort of scrutiny anyway.

If we don’t make finals this year and Hinkley is still coach for 2025, only a fool would renew their membership. As for crowds this year, not going to games with a low crowd will send a strong message. The rest who wanna go, by all means boo your arses off.



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[Kingfish73]

I’ve been reflecting a lot about my relationship with the PAFC the last few weeks. For so long I have ridden every high and low this club has been through. I’ve barely missed watching games. The fortunes of the club have meant a lot to me. I was blessed that my dad introduced me to PAFC in the early 80s. It was a wonderful way to spend my weekends going to games with him. I loved what our club stood for.

In recent years and especially this year, I’ve realised that the club is now in the hands of people who will never love it or hurt about it as much as I do. If they are happy to accept mediocrity and go with the flow and roll over so easily then I’m not going to waste energy worrying about the PAFC anymore. Rucci, Kornes and their friends in the club can bask in apathetic mediocrity.

I’ve got other things to do.

This was me 3+ years ago

 

[Schulzenfest]

I've wanted him sacked since about halfway through 2016 but the Ben Brown massacre is when i thought he was gone.

2022 was probably the most ridiculous season he survived though.

But now of them feel as real as now.

In 2019 we finished midtable, but Ken had another year on his contract. The club decided to honour it.

In 2022 we finished midtable, but Ken had another year on his contract. The club decided to honour it.

In 2024 we look on track to finish midtable, but Ken had another year on his contract. History suggests that 2024 is so far so good for Ken and his manager.

I do agree with you on one thing; it does feel a bit more 'real' now. And do you know why that is? The ****ing booing! You comfort yourself by saying this season feels different, but the only reason it feels different is because of people doing the very same thing you're trying to discourage them from.

I've got news for you, if the booing and dissent stops, suddenly there's no discernible difference between this year and 2019/2022. And the club will make the same bad decision in 2024 as it did in 2019 and 2022. Ken leaving is not a foregone conclusion, it relies on us to make it happen. So either show up and boo your heart out yourself, or at the very least shut the **** up and stop trying to discourage those who are actually doing something.

 

[Willsy10]

Have you watched football before?

In 1995 Brisbane told Robert walls he was getting the arse in rd 15. They were 4-11.

They won 6 of the next 7 games, and only just went down to the all conquering carlton "paper bags" side by 13 goals in the finals. The same team won the grand final by 10 goals and had one of the most dominant teams in history.

Collingwood ditched Buckley and went from 6-16 to 16-6 in the space of one year.

29 years ago? And he wasn't even sacked on the spot, he coached out the rest of the year, that's the best example you can come up with?

And after Bucks stood down, they went 2 and 8 for the remainder of the year. there was no immediate turn around, things went from bad to worse for them in 2021 but they bounced back in 2022 with a new coach and regime.

 

[Coobk001]

We are at Round 17, the year is nearly done anyway. Not sure how things are going to suddenly turn around with a interim coach.

I agree. The concept we can make a run at the flag by sacking the coach is ludicrous. The problem isn't the individual, it's the entire game plan and culture. That'll take a while for a new coach to come in, address and fix up. Yes maybe we score a couple new coach bounce wins, but we aren't making a flag run with an interim coach, and it is ridiculous to think we would.

That doesn't mean you don't sack now though. We should be clearing the decks, getting ready for next year asap. This year is done. We are nothing other than making up the numbers at this stage. We need to start planning for the future and get into the coaches market before anyone else does.

 

[Scodges]

An empty stadium isn't realistic. Low crowds can blamed on anything - "oh the Port supporters are fickle, bring back the tarps" etc. etc.

Thirty thousand people booing a single man when he comes on the screen sends a real message and the true nature of where that anger is directed can't be denied.

So I’ve attended 2 games since the EF to West Coast in 2017, that’s my protest. I just wished there was a shit tonne more ppl like me, Kenny Kleenex would not be coach today.


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