SC Forwards Discussion Thread

[Spudregus_87]

Top and bottom ends are practically the same...a few different guys in the middle...

...I've since changed my mind, but tbh I was seriously thinking about not including Riewoldt.

...

Anyway, this is all a bit moot now since he does look better in my team that out of it...
...just don't think he's the amazing "lock" that some (most?) seem to consider him.

[Speaking of most/locks...No Krakouer up forward for you? ]

Riewoldt a definte lock. Crazy not to have him. Was the fifth player I picked behind Sandi, Goddard, Swan & Otten.

Krakouer's an interesting one. Jury's still out whether he'll be a good SC player imo.

 

[Super Gusto]

Riewoldt a definte lock. Crazy not to have him. Was the fifth player I picked behind Sandi, Goddard, Swan & Otten.

Krakouer's an interesting one. Jury's still out whether he'll be a good SC player imo.

Had Krakouer as a lock at one stage but like you I'm starting to have my doubts. I think he'll be a really good player for the Pies but that he may not score highly enough. Small forwards rarely do.

However if they play him on the ball like they did in the practice match his scores will be pretty good.

Tough one.

 

[Spudregus_87]

Had Krakouer as a lock at one stage but like you I'm starting to have my doubts. I think he'll be a really good player for the Pies but that he may not score highly enough. Small forwards rarely do.

However if they play him on the ball like they did in the practice match his scores will be pretty good.

Tough one.

Plus too many bad memories of inconsistency at Richmond

Obviously a different player now.

Will watch closely though; would love to pick him

 

[Mofra]

Krakouer's an interesting one. Jury's still out whether he'll be a good SC player imo.

With so many MPP forward/mids, I've found a spot for him in the midfield. Having two MPP in the midfeild and a few forward rookies, hopefully I'll have plenty of flexibility during the byes.

 

[Ed_Gein]

With so many MPP forward/mids, I've found a spot for him in the midfield. Having two MPP in the midfeild and a few forward rookies, hopefully I'll have plenty of flexibility during the byes.

Not a bad ploy.

It could be an intersting option to drop a premium in the middle for him. But i have doubts over how much potential he has when it comes to scoring. Think i'll end up leaving him in the forwards.

 

[mwalker]

Personally I think its time to move on tot he next era of gun forwards. I haven't had Goodes or Harvey for at least the last 3 years. And last year was my last with Pav

I could not fit them in this year and I have had one or two of them for the last couple of years.

I think Buddy will be the one I move onto this year and St Nick.

 

[mwalker]

With so many MPP forward/mids, I've found a spot for him in the midfield. Having two MPP in the midfeild and a few forward rookies, hopefully I'll have plenty of flexibility during the byes.

Did the same thing myself. Have tried to find a several good fwd/mids and expect to move around as needed. Hopefully it will work.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Yeah, not convinced about that...

...Goodes had his 3rd best DT year in 2010 (pretty much right on his av. disposals/game), just a terrible 0.99 DT/SC ratio, which was well down from his average. I had him for most of last year and remember constantly being frustrated by his crappy skills...and mostly simple stuff like set shots for goal.
Actually kicked 44 goals (his most), but 41 behinds...a better conversion rate and I don't see why he wouldn't be able to get back to some decent SC scoring...
[He av'd 117.75 over his last 8 games too btw. ]

Harvey's in the same boat, imo. 94.5 DT last year...95.9 best ever 2007...94.6 2008...in fact, most av. disposals last year for his career.
His SC scoring has been a bit up and down over the last 6 years;
85.7/109.3 followed by 92.6/100.5 in 05/06...a couple of 95/110's...

...can't see too many reasons why he wouldn't av. somewhere between 100-110 again this year.

They are in no way finished as players (or SC players) I'm just in favour of chucking Roo, Riolo, Sylvia, Buddy as my premiums, who I believe will all have more consistent years.

 

[MightyMark]

They are in no way finished as players (or SC players) I'm just in favour of chucking Roo, Riolo, Sylvia, Buddy as my premiums, who I believe will all have more consistent years.

How comfortable are you having 2 Hawthorn players in your forward line? Would love to have Rioli, but dont want to get caught out with too many rookies during Hawthorns first bye. Are you just going to bench Buddy and Rioli in favour of some rookies or have you got something else up your sleeve

 

[ThePezDispenser]

I'm not completely sold on the idea, however in a perfect world they both would be. Still need to and will tinker with the side a fair bit.

 

[Kramer1]

They are past their prime, they will still have their good days but over the last couple of years they have also put in some shockers. All 3 are playing different positions than they were when they were scoring their best also.

I'd look more in the Sylvia/Rioli area.

Harvey is still a sound a choice as any for me. Still averaged more than a ton and this takes into account some shocking scores early in the year. Played his last ten games at 111, and certainly more durable than Rioli and Sylvia.

Time might be catching up with Goodes a little. Hard to know what happened to Pav last year...played the first half of the year at 111 and the second half at 86. Carrying a niggle? Role change? Team mates pulling their finger out? Either way I wouldn't think him in decline just yet.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Harvey's role will change even more this year with our greater midfield depth. You should see him play predominantly in the forward line, which is no problem for boomer as long as he kicks his 2-3 goals a game he will still score well.

And Pav is not his usual self - whether that be position change or less reliance on him now, for a little extra you can get someone like Didak, who despite what I just said about wanting Franklin and Rioli, I got Didak in and Franklin out. This is more to do with overall points than anything. I can't afford to see Franklin missing 2-3 weeks at a time for stupid mistakes.

 

[Kramer1]

Harvey's role will change even more this year with our greater midfield depth. You should see him play predominantly in the forward line, which is no problem for boomer as long as he kicks his 2-3 goals a game he will still score well.

And Pav is not his usual self - whether that be position change or less reliance on him now, for a little extra you can get someone like Didak, who despite what I just said about wanting Franklin and Rioli, I got Didak in and Franklin out. This is more to do with overall points than anything. I can't afford to see Franklin missing 2-3 weeks at a time for stupid mistakes.

Hear that every year on Harvey though. I think he is still your best mid by a big margin and will play most of the year in his traditional attacking mid role.

Franklin is traditionally a slow starter so he might be a good upgrade option if he doesn't explode out of the blocks. He probably won't make my final team on that thinking. Pav does have the benefit of no byes during the head to head stuff.

 

[MightyMark]

Harvey's role will change even more this year with our greater midfield depth. You should see him play predominantly in the forward line, which is no problem for boomer as long as he kicks his 2-3 goals a game he will still score well.

And Pav is not his usual self - whether that be position change or less reliance on him now, for a little extra you can get someone like Didak, who despite what I just said about wanting Franklin and Rioli, I got Didak in and Franklin out. This is more to do with overall points than anything. I can't afford to see Franklin missing 2-3 weeks at a time for stupid mistakes.

I had Didak but moved him on after reading his article in the heraldsun the other day. He stated that he was still carrying an injury from late last year, which is improving but still there, and the reason for his interupted pre season. He also stated that he will be spending muich less time in the midfield. If Didak doesn't spend time in the midfield I cant see his average going past 100 like in the previous 2 seasons.

That said, he should still score well, but not as good as he has recently. I took that as a sign to give Dangerfield* a shot. Have been very impressed with his pre season form, and hopefully this is the season he finally takes off.

* This selection will no doubt change several times between now and round 1 .

 

[Will.B.Worth.Da.Waite]

thoughts on mcglynn?

 

[MightyMark]

thoughts on mcglynn?

Had a break out but interupted year last year. Showed he is capable of some huge scores with 31 touches in round 3. Went over 100 5 times last year. If Goodes plays in the forward line more often Mglynn may rotate through the midfield again, in which case he has a good scoring potential. Has the ability to find the goal and will still score well playing as a sole forward but I cant see his price or average rising much unless he gets a run in the midfield on a regular bases (which could happen, but the more likely outcome will be that he will only play through the mid field in small bursts).

Not alot of upside on his price, a better option would be Sylvia.

 

[Hu$tler]

Chris Yarran will be a gem if he slots into the HB role nicely!

 

[BEEG]

Thoughts on Richmond's Mitch Morton

Seems like he started to play more midfield late last year and did it well and looks alot fitter Hardwick seems to like him do people think he might be one of those 90 point average players week in week out wont get much attention either ???

 

[MightyMark]

Thoughts on Richmond's Mitch Morton

Seems like he started to play more midfield late last year and did it well and looks alot fitter Hardwick seems to like him do people think he might be one of those 90 point average players week in week out wont get much attention either ???

If your going for someone unique he has potential (but it is a big risk to pick player based on potential). Averaged 82 in 2009 and 77 last year. As a forward he will struggle to average in the 80's now that Reiwoldt is the main target, and he has become second fiddle. If he pushes into the midfield he has a better scoring potential. But I doubt he will become a main part of Richmonds midfield. At 375K he is a risk, as his price will not rise very much, and you are banking on him averaging 90 per game, which may be just out of his reach, unless he plays significant time in the midfield (which I think is unlikely).

 

[Weiterbot23]

Syliva or didak???

 

[MightyMark]

Syliva or didak???

Sylvia.

Didak is still not 100% fit, and carrying a pectorial injury. He also has had a fairly interupted pre season.

Sylvia should spend more time rotating through the middle, and if he can improve his kicking (his efficiency was down on previous years) should score well. Didak on the other hand has indicated he will limiting his time in the midfield so his scoring may suffer as a result.

 

[Weiterbot23]

Just what I wanted to hear!

Thank you!

 

[MightyMark]

Just what I wanted to hear!

Thank you!

More than welcome. Had Didak in my team originally till I read that interview with him and swapped him out. Dont want to carry injured players into the season especially those whose roles will be reduced.

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

Chris Yarran will be a gem if he slots into the HB role nicely!

I agree in football terms, but not in SC at that price. to many unknowns. One too watch for next year if he continues his apprenticeship

 

[Strahany]

I'm thinking of getting Knights into my team, however don't know who (if anyone) to trade. Should I trade for him and who, or is there a better option?


N.Riewoldt
Franklin
Green
T.Varcoe
Higgins
A.Krakouer
Gamble
(Callinan, Mzungu, Isaac Smith)

129.7k in the bank.