Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 5 - The stroll out.

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BruceFromBalnarring said:
And when he does, please feel free to point it out.

As for ideologies, I like free camping. Have for years. It’s a great way to reconnect with yourself and your family.

Daniel Andrews, at the behest of the Greens, is banning it. That’s where ideology affects actual lives.
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Pie eyed said:
You are complaining that you may have to pay to camp in some areas?
I am not that happy that I , my family and ancestors have had to pay and are still paying for religions to exist. for centuries.
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nah with bruce on this one - free camping is a huge oart of my life - being stuck cheek by jowl with 500 other campers in a park kinda defeats the purpose of why you go camping.

On another note its us 4wders going down fire trails and cutting the branches and trees that fall over ghe tracks are providing a free service for the firies so they can quickly attend bushfires.

since greenies had a lot of nsw fire trails closed nsw firies have been held up badly.

thats not to say there wasnt reasons for the closures - some arsewipes litter or hoon - but to me thats punishing everyone for the behaviour of a few.

its 4wd clubs go out and do cleanups every year. Personally and most folk i know do the same, we take out more rubbish than we create. Lots of cray pot detritus for instance. Theres places in wa you arent really supposed to stay where the rangers know us and let it slide because we are s net positive to the area.

just removing the right to camp there on a blanket ban because of a few dh’s is bullshit.

and btw its not that we object to paying - i think we would all be happy to buy a permit that funds rangers enforcing heavy penalties for people doing the wrong thing, dump points and long drops

we just dont want to be stuck in shitty caravan parks.

heres where i like to camp :

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kranky al said:
nah with bruce on this one - free camping is a huge oart of my life - being stuck cheek by jowl with 500 other campers in a park kinda defeats the purpose of why you go camping.

On another note its us 4wders going down fire trails and cutting the branches and trees that fall over ghe tracks are providing a free service for the firies so they can quickly attend bushfires.

since greenies had a lot of nsw fire trails closed nsw firies have been held up badly.

thats not to say there wasnt reasons for the closures - some arsewipes litter or hoon - but to me thats punishing everyone for the behaviour of a few.

its 4wd clubs go out and do cleanups every year. Personally and most folk i know do the same, we take out more rubbish than we create. Lots of cray pot detritus for instance. Theres places in wa you arent really supposed to stay where the rangers know us and let it slide because we are s net positive to the area.

just removing the right to camp there on a blanket ban because of a few dh’s is bullshit.

and btw its not that we object to paying - i think we would all be happy to buy a permit that funds rangers enforcing heavy penalties for people doing the wrong thing, dump points and long drops

we just dont want to be stuck in shitty caravan parks.

heres where i like to camp :

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Me too., to the top pic, however, what you depict at bottom is not a result of Government policy but every man and his dog buying a 4WD and a Van.
Try camping on Fraser Island.
My wife and I camped there extensively during the 80's and early 90's.
On one trip we were the only car on the barge from Inskip point for the week.
On every trip we camped where we liked and encountered 2-3 other campers, 10-12 vehicles on the beach over a week.
Not the case now.
If you want to camp ala your top pic you have to pick your spots.

"Call someplace paradise, kiss it goodbye"
or keep it a secret.
 

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Pie eyed said:
Me too., to the top pic, however, what you depict at bottom is not a result of Government policy but every man and his dog buying a 4WD and a Van.
Try camping on Fraser Island.
My wife and I camped there extensively during the 80's and early 90's.
On one trip we were the only car on the barge from Inskip point for the week.
On every trip we camped where we liked and encountered 2-3 other campers, 10-12 vehicles on the beach over a week.
Not the case now.
If you want to camp ala your top pic you have to pick your spots.

"Call someplace paradise, kiss it goodbye"
or keep it a secret.
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Even Inamincka has been gentrified these days, I thought they sold out when they put in a toilet and shower block for the bicentenary.
 
Pie eyed said:
Me too., to the top pic, however, what you depict at bottom is not a result of Government policy but every man and his dog buying a 4WD and a Van.
Try camping on Fraser Island.
My wife and I camped there extensively during the 80's and early 90's.
On one trip we were the only car on the barge from Inskip point for the week.
On every trip we camped where we liked and encountered 2-3 other campers, 10-12 vehicles on the beach over a week.
Not the case now.
If you want to camp ala your top pic you have to pick your spots.

"Call someplace paradise, kiss it goodbye"
or keep it a secret.
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We used to go i to the Wonnongatta Valley after Christmas, it was magic.Just our group of 4 wds, no vans, just tents.
Fishing, swimming, having a great time.
 
BruceFromBalnarring said:
And when he does, please feel free to point it out.

As for ideologies, I like free camping. Have for years. It’s a great way to reconnect with yourself and your family.

Daniel Andrews, at the behest of the Greens, is banning it. That’s where ideology affects actual lives.
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Go camp at the churches. They are dotted all over the place. Aren't you a member?
 

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kranky al said:
The money he saves on food goes straight into hair plugs.
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The meal allowance isn't even close to the worst of it. I would venture every single politician in Canberra, with the possible exception of a few independents would be paying off at least one investment property held in their wife or other family members name with their accomodation allowance.

They eat for free, travel for free, basically they never put their hand in their own pockets for their time in office for anything and they pay off multiple investment properties.

Stay in office long enough, retire with a lifetime generous pension and go straight to a lucrative consulting gig with any of the companies you've gone into bat for while in Gov.

Its organised crime for the establishment.
 
E Shed said:
The meal allowance isn't even close to the worst of it. I would venture every single politician in Canberra, with the possible exception of a few independents would be paying off at least one investment property held in their wife or other family members name with their accomodation allowance.

They eat for free, travel for free, basically they never put their hand in their own pockets for their time in office for anything and they pay off multiple investment properties.

Stay in office long enough, retire with a lifetime generous pension and go straight to a lucrative consulting gig with any of the companies you've gone into bat for while in Gov.

Its organised crime for the establishment.
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The Greens have been very carefully presenting themselves as not like all the other corrupt AF politicians.

No doubt they all intend to collect their pollie super, but other than that they’re really serious about an ICAC with real power, and real reform to political donations.

I get the feeling most Green politicians are genuinely in it with the intention of advancing the nation and its people. No wonder the Murdoch press paints them as loonies.
 
BruceFromBalnarring said:
People keep making this assumption. It’s wrong.

Im firmly in the camp of not having a ******* clue one way or the other.

Catholics I know seem absolutely cool with this position. Atheists less so.
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Which assumption?
Which Catholics do you know?
Which position are they cool with?
 
Cooldude said:
Why do we let one guy derail every thread with his spam every time?
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Not necessarily the "one" guy.
Most probs a paid Catholic lobby group posting on fora to defend the firm.
 
Rex is absolutely correct.Labor are pathetic.

Rex Patrick
(@Senator_Patrick)
#breaking: Labor has capitulated on supporting a law that requires the Tax Commissioner to publish the name of companies that received JobKeeper and the total amount of money they received. Labor are like a dog that rolls over every time @ScottMorrisonMP stares them down. #auspol pic.twitter.com/QoXfq83Lgf

August 9, 2021
 
Ned_Flanders said:
Trump's taste in women is similar to Clinton, trashy older types.
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He sent a learjet to Adelaide in the early 90's to pick up Laura Csortan for a ****

She would've been 17 tops
 
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