Admin Notice Season 38 Administrator - Candidates Announced

[Jabba73]

You should probably build a bridge. It has been fully explained that this is a common theme from the Bombers over many seasons and committee is not the place to "take the piss" as you said yourself. If your club is not interested in helping the league and only hold your own clubs interest in mind then you really don't deserve to have a representative. The committee, after all, is a place where all clubs come together to decide what is best for the league, not a particular club.

Way to miss the point Numbnuts.

It was a PM, not in the Committee, as clearly stated.

I stand by my 4+ seasons of very active participation where I made many decisions that were helpful for the SFA, even some at the expense of my own clubs interests at times.

Once again, someone sees Bombers and assumes rather than actually reading and comprehending.

 

[Cadsky]

Way to miss the point Numbnuts.

It was a PM, not in the Committee, as clearly stated.

I stand by my 4+ seasons of very active participation where I made many decisions that were helpful for the SFA, even some at the expense of my own clubs interests at times.

Once again, someone sees Bombers and assumes rather than actually reading and comprehending.

Sure, a PM that held up the process in committee. Once again, you only think of yourselves and assume it affects no one else.

 

[okeydoke7]

Anyone who thinks the committee room is a big secret should be asking their captain to stand down.

Captains (committee reps) are supposed to represent their team at the table, not themselves.

They should be consulting their team, at minimum their leadership group. Too many don’t even communicate with teammates about what is going on or seek their input.

A few poor captains being exposed by their teammates in this thread.

 

[Jabba73]

Sure, a PM that held up the process in committee. Once again, you only think of yourselves and assume it affects no one else.

Sigh.

For those that are unaware, we were among a number of clubs that failed to meet the initial deadline. We were advised via a PM and our LG lodged our nominations prior to the revised deadline in said PM.

Unfortunately, I was not available due to IRL issues, which was communicated at the time. Unfortunately, this was taken as sufficient reason to ignore our nominations and remove me from the Committee, despite there being no mechanism in the rules to do so.

 

[Cadsky]

Sigh.

For those that are unaware, we were among a number of clubs that failed to meet the initial deadline. We were advised via a PM and our LG lodged our nominations prior to the revised deadline in said PM.

Unfortunately, I was not available due to IRL issues, which was communicated at the time. Unfortunately, this was taken as sufficient reason to ignore our nominations and remove me from the Committee, despite there being no mechanism in the rules to do so.

Honestly you blokes are the biggest bunch of woe is me's going around. If you didn't "take the piss" in the first place, there wouldn't have been a need for a revised deadline.

 

[Wosh]

At this stage, no. The committee is back up enough.

I agree with this, the whole thing about 2IC’s, back ups, General Managers etc etc has crept in but it’s not mandatory. A strong capable admin knows what needs to be done, works respectfully with the committee and steers the ship like a Captain. The committee are the crew, and then you have the usual engine room people behind the scenes season after season who do things like sim/post, graphics, ladders and stats, award write ups, run competitions etc etc. The admin should have a good relationship with all these people because without them the League is screwed.

I think right now what we need is someone experienced and stable who can just slip into the role smoothly and confidently get going on things like recruitment drives, ways to fix the 13 team/fixture issues, bringing back prestige and fun to awards and generally working on making what we have here the best it can be.
Personally I wouldn’t support anyone who wants to fold or merge clubs, it’s just a game but it’s also a tight community and each club is it’s own commuity and very important to a lot of people. Love or hate the OOB's they are a big success and there’s absolutely no reason the admin, committee and clubs can’t work together to get a new team up eventually. We don’t need 100 page threads every week, that’s not sustainable, we need to be realistic but also optimistic and positive. Negativity is one of the worst things around here, it helps no one and nothing.

We need someone who has good relationships with clubs, committee and especially with the people who are the backbone of the League behind the scenes.
We need a proven leader right now imo.

My 2 cents fwiw…please choose wisely people.

 

[Jabba73]

Honestly you blokes are the biggest bunch of woe is me's going around. If you didn't "take the piss" in the first place, there wouldn't have been a need for a revised deadline.

It was a PM Numbnuts, with a guy who insists that club culture is important to him when running the league.

Anyone in a conversation with the Baghdad Bombers who claims surprise that taking the piss is part of our standard communication ... is taking the piss themselves.

Once again, it had no impact on us providing the requested information by the revised deadline. Please read this again for clarity, it had no impact on the revised deadline given to multiple clubs.

 

[Cadsky]

It was a PM Numbnuts, with a guy who insists that club culture is important to him when running the league.

Anyone in a conversation with the Baghdad Bombers who claims surprise that taking the piss is part of our standard communication ... is taking the piss themselves.

Once again, it had no impact on us providing the requested information by the revised deadline. Please read this again for clarity, it had no impact on the revised deadline given to multiple clubs.

You just continue to blames others. How about you start looking at yourselves?

 

[Gralin]

Now kiss

 

[Mobbs]

DenieD, The Filth Wizard & ClarkeM if successful in the vote will you be using a GMQO to assist ? If so who will your GMQO be ?

Ask your committee rep to educate you on the process for this.

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[Mobbs]

For sure, I just needed to find the time as I'm out of action for most of tomorrow and preferred to dedicate the time appropriate.

As mentioned, I have no qualms in publicly sharing the questions directed at me and my answers back.

For me, this is up to you as clubs how you would like to manage the bye. There are a multitude of options and scenarios that need to be considered.

• A 14th team comes in, problem more or less solved. A team folds or merges, problem also solved.
  • Though is the latter really what we want for the league? Not at all.
• We trialled an experimental approach to have some mid-week games which limited the impact of the second bye for teams. This was effective however it proved a challenge for clubs having to cater to change from routine so I can appreciate that it might not be the best approach moving forward. Once again, this remains an option for clubs to consider.
• I had presented a 14 game, 15 week bye with 2 clubs having 2 byes in Rounds 1 and 2 with a mid-week match between them to soften this impact, then all 11 other teams would have just 1 bye for the season. Alternatively, the mid-week match could be played at the same time as another game meaning there's 7 games on a Sunday and all teams involved. So this style of method could work but once again it comes down to the club's preferences.
  • It was then stressed to me in the last week of the season that clubs wanted to explore more games and were willing to cop the 2 byes as a result. I have now produced a fixture that gives us that - 16 games, 18 rounds, 2 byes and no mid-week matches.
  • My plan would be to look at replicating the above model for future seasons at the club's support.
  • The challenge with such a fixture model is that it becomes extremely difficult to account for club requests without having to crack a few eggs, so to speak.
• I do want to avoid some clubs copping 2 byes and other clubs having just 1 where possible as while I can appreciate teams like the Old Boys are happy to go with whatever is presented, I want to ensure that all clubs are on the same playing field or as much as possible.
• The last option is the AFL All-Stars bot team. However, once again, it would be unfair for a team to play the bot team twice while other clubs just have to play them once. Not something I'm overly interested in but once again, that's up to the Committee to decide.

In the end, it's up to the Committee how they wish to approach this and we can talk through that together. It's no surprise to most but fixturing is a niche interest that I do have and in a time with such a specific set of parameters, I like to do my best job in it.



Some thoughts, aside from the existing avenues in place (promo banners, Qooty Tours etc.) have included enquiring with Chief about including a promo to the league in the initial email sign up new members get when they join the website. I begun discussions on this however I figured it was best left for the actual admin to follow up on rather than the interim admin/GMQO at the time with more important matters to address.

I'll add in here, recruiting to me is new and old posters into the league. It is not poaching posters from other teams. There's a time and a place for that but that's on clubs to manage accordingly.

As stated in my application, I have a long history of recruiting for others and this will remain my approach. I'd like to address that there are strong clubs and that there are "struggling" clubs though I despise the term struggling to apply to perhaps the lowest ranking teams. Those lower ranking teams in terms of activity or posters, I'd be keen to work with them individually on their recruiting approaches and assess firstly what effort are they doing to recruit posters and based on that alone, I'd be able to gauge how I can help within reason. I'm not going to do all of their work for them however but I'm aware enough of the situation to gauge how much involvement I should or shouldn't have.

Recruiting in my opinion is not hard. It can be time consuming and full of let downs, sure, but it's not overly hard to achieve. Just need to keep it simple and fun for both new posters and those doing the recruiting.


Honestly, I'm not sure an admin can magically increase the quality of posting in match threads and nor is it their place rather it's the club's themselves to create their culture or standards of engagement according to their own identity. No one wants us to revert to the days of 4 page match threads where there are two posts - a Go Team and a Well Done Team, Commiserations Other Team and naturally, no one wants to have to put up with 150 page spamathons each week because it gets tiring quick. This is why with 12 other teams to play, we're fortunate to experience a multitude of identities, cultures and communities each week and this is why we have match threads more or less these days. We've naturally evolved into activity-driven monsters and I have always been a big believer in getting the enjoyment out of this place that you yourself want to get so long as it's not to the mass detriment of others. More posting is better - if that question is as simply answered as such to how it was posed, however it's only in the context of comparing activity vs. low activity.

To answer your second question, I believe the league can self-regulate more often that it needs direction. This place was born from a silly little idea and has formed into a place where members like myself, Ljp, Crowwy, Tarks, Pie etc. can't seem to let the place go. There's got to be a reason why this is and I believe it's due to the uniqueness and culture that we as a community have fostered over the many years. Sure, there will be moments of drama and spats, but there's also times where we come together and all realise that we revolve much of our life around an antiquated, pointless sim where nothing truly matters. You just need to have someone steady at the helm of course however in saying that, once again referring to my application, I don't believe that the admin actually runs the place, the Committee does; the clubs do. Until that structure is broken, the league and association is in a good place and will be forever guided in the direction relevant to the league.


I'll answer this question it's fair to ask, though I'll answer it succinctly.

Yes, I would most likely use a GMQO - I wouldn't be seeking to shake the structure beyond what already exists in place. I've not thought much about who that person would be at this point in time other than that I would prefer them to not be someone from my own club in the Wonders.


Just like with any ~18 month commitment, you need time to process these things. It was made abundantly clear to me that I would not be continuing in the role as GMQO beyond Season 37 and respectfully until the weekend, I supported the notion it was Elton Johns Wig's role for the next two seasons unless the Committee intervened as per the rules and tools that they had in front of them.

So naturally, my mind was not even thinking beyond Season 37 from a personal standpoint and what role I would be playing (if any) however if you read through my posts, I openly say to the Committee that I would be willing to be the Sweet FA's admin moving forward if required however my position is compromised by the role that I was in at the time. The Committee deserved to know that I was available to help, in any role and that I was willing to step aside and let them follow the processes they determined were best for Season 38 and beyond (as I did). None of this was of a concern to myself.

I did say that I would not be putting my name in the ring to be the next administrator if I was the GMQO running the election per Section 3F. It wouldn't feel right to me to be coordinating my own election and in effect, campaigning to take the role from someone who I have the upmost respect for in EJW and appointed me to the privileged position of GMQO. Thankfully, this is not what happened and Section 3D was enacted and process was followed accordingly. I stated that I would be happy to be admin in Season 38 if the Committee wished to appoint me for a one-off season given the circumstances and we worked through a proper admin process together throughout Season 38 and fairly, this was rejected. I then offered to help in the process of the search for a new administrator for this off-season which was also rejected by the Committee. My first points of call were offers of help to the Committee. I was then relinquished from the role of interim admin/GMQO effective Monday and a caretaker admin was then appointed to oversee the next stage of the process - all of which I supported fully as per the rules in place and in the spirit of the league's best interests. At this point however I became an open player in the field and I felt it was appropriate to consider formally running for administrator position from an equal and level playing field, especially after speaking with some members from the community and club who had expressed support in me "continuing on" in the role.

If I didn't feel comfortable applying for 3 seasons in the role, I wouldn't be applying. Of course though, this is completely a voluntary position and if something in my life changed where I was unable to access the league as much as I should or otherwise fulfill by duties as admin, then of course I consider stepping aside in the best interests of the league rather than holding onto it - just as I would expect any candidate would. I don't need the role for my ego, I'm just a guy that's trying to help... as always.

I had to recharge my phone data twice just to scroll past this post.

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[Gralin]

DenieD

The big one I want to implement in my time is for huge spectacle events for match threads, such as a round robin type week where there is only one match thread for 7-14 games. (one to two matches a day for the week)

You say spectacle but how do you envisage this a) working and b) being enjoyable

Every team in the one thread with games being posted every day is logistically a lot of work for the people doing the posting but also would involves a lot of noise

 

[thewizardmelon]

Honestly you blokes are the biggest bunch of woe is me's going around. If you didn't "take the piss" in the first place, there wouldn't have been a need for a revised deadline.

So you’re saying the committee takes into account it’s previous grievances with the bombers when making decisions? Your continued choice to ignore/dilute any points Jabba makes is tiring from the outside viewpoint, and takes away from the point at hand.

 

[Wosh]

This should be purely about who is the most suitable person is to take the reins right now, all past grievances, vendettas and personal issues should be left at the door.

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[Wosh]

DenieD



You say spectacle but how do you envisage this a) working and b) being enjoyable

Every team in the one thread with games being posted every day is logistically a lot of work for the people doing the posting but also would involves a lot of noise

Not to mention how many people would hate it.

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

So you’re saying the committee takes into account it’s previous grievances with the bombers when making decisions? Your continued choice to ignore/dilute any points Jabba makes is tiring from the outside viewpoint, and takes away from the point at hand.

I think we can all agree the decision by an unelected fill-in to completely remove a club from committee was a poor one.

 

[Jabba73]

This should be purely about who is the most suitable person is to take the reins right now, all past grievances, vendettas and personal issues should be left at the door.

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Yep.

I would appreciate a response to my question from ClarkeM about what will be different given his stated aims for the Admin position vary wildly from his documented behaviour when temporarily relieving in that position.

It is a genuine question of his suitability to be in charge of enforcing the rules of the SFA, given his abject failure to follow them when recently responsible for them, albeit in an unelected capacity.

 

[TRUMAN#1]

Yeah, you all know what I think about lack of transparency.

Cabal 6 strike again.

 

[Wosh]

Yeah, you all know what I think about lack of transparency.

Cabal 6 strike again.

Your rep should be showing you everything, he can also tell you if there’s any secret shenanigans going on in there.
Anything from committee he shows you you can and question and debate here.

 

[Headless]

Yeah, you all know what I think about lack of transparency.

Cabal 6 strike again.

What's not transparent about the process, U2? I've copied every Q&A from committee into our team PM and LG PM. I assume your rep is doing the same? TIF has clearly outlined the process in the OP.

 

[Wosh]

Robertio get off the Guinness for a day and address your resident flat earther

 

[Robertio]

Your rep should be showing you everything, he can also tell you if there’s any secret shenanigans going on in there.
You can even post anything from committee he shows you in here and question it and debate it.

I have and i have told them there's no cabal or secret 7.

 

[Robertio]

Robertio get off the Guinness for a day and address your resident flat earther

I can do anything but not the impossible.

 

[Wosh]

I have and i have told them there's no cabal or secret 7.

 

[TRUMAN#1]

Your rep should be showing you everything, he can also tell you if there’s any secret shenanigans going on in there.
Anything from committee he shows you you can and question it and debate it here.

What's not transparent about the process, U2? I've copied every Q&A from committee into our team PM and LG PM. I assume your rep is doing the same? TIF has clearly outlined the process in the OP.

Just staying in character.

Carry on.