It is what it is mate . Whatever the division and that's out of my control . Yeah agree if you don't win the big one it's looked at as probably a negative but it sits ok with me and so does the teams efforts . Slop footy you could argue some games this year would of stood up in the div 3 comp most definately . So where are you playing again you still haven't managed to say who you are or where you play at and Seniors I take it with you being a jet and bagging div 4 ? You've said I need experience any sort of experience and bagged me so state where your at and what you did this year . Cheers broYa won 15 in DIV 4 , slop footy , hardly moving forward ? Who ever wins the flag and goes up is moving forward. Carb bro enough is enough