So realistically.... Who can slide to pick 28?

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Why does Cox seem a reach at 28 (30 most likely after academy selections)? Most phantoms I've seen have him going around that mark even without us taking him.

Agree regarding Cox. Patrick Kerr is another that will be around pick 28. I don't think you could go wrong with either option if they are both available.

 

[Stoods]

If you guys remember Dekka said at the members forum he will look at targetting key backs/KP swing men/small forwards.

I highly doubt we will be taking a mid and with Brown and Daicos more than likely going to be taken by us the small forward area would be covered hopefully.

If one of Ridley or Cox are available we will take them for sure. If both are available will be interesting who he chooses, even more interesting if both are gone what we do then.

 

[Soups]

If you guys remember Dekka said at the members forum he will look at targetting key backs/KP swing men/small forwards.

I highly doubt we will be taking a mid and with Brown and Daicos more than likely going to be taken by us the small forward area would be covered hopefully.

If one of Ridley or Cox are available we will take them for sure. If both are available will be interesting who he chooses, even more interesting if both are gone what we do then.

Ridley for mine. Think he might be gone before our pick. Trust dekka to call out someone no one was expecting. Maybe a Duman or Maibaum.

 

[legendstatus]

I'd love to get Kerr purely based on knowing the family and how much they hope he doesn't end up at Pie land!


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[OffseasonPie]

If you guys remember Dekka said at the members forum he will look at targetting key backs/KP swing men/small forwards.

I highly doubt we will be taking a mid and with Brown and Daicos more than likely going to be taken by us the small forward area would be covered hopefully.

If one of Ridley or Cox are available we will take them for sure. If both are available will be interesting who he chooses, even more interesting if both are gone what we do then.

I agree with this but it all just depends on where dekka rates the players if he doesn't rate any of the key players at 28 but he rates a mid much higher than our pick but is available he will probably pick them.

 

[adammania9]

I'm not into Ridley - he's not big enough to be a key defender. I'm more than happy with Howe being our sole third tall.

 

[Rorzza]

Dylan Clarke is an interesting prospects, saw his name mentioned, big strong boy that can find the footy, has good endurance. Would be talked about as a first round pick if not biomechanically challenged in dropping football from hand to foot.

 

[Crazy Tails]

Ridley for mine. Think he might be gone before our pick. Trust dekka to call out someone no one was expecting. Maybe a Duman or Maibaum.

I'd take Ridley over Cox just. Ridley is from Victoria (Oakleigh Chargers) so we wouldn't have to worry about the go home factor like Cox. We may also be able to find a negating key back later in the draft.


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[Apex36]

I'm not into Ridley - he's not big enough to be a key defender. I'm more than happy with Howe being our sole third tall.

We have Goldsack for that too. I'd prefer him taking Marsh's place and keeping Howe as a looser intercept marker.

 

[Soups]

Dylan Clarke is an interesting prospects, saw his name mentioned, big strong boy that can find the footy, has good endurance. Would be talked about as a first round pick if not biomechanically challenged in dropping football from hand to foot.

I just don't think we can afford to pick anyone with poor kicking skills these days. We just struggle to improve players who have suspect kicking. So I'd rather just draft kids who can kick.

 

[Pedro]

Wouldn't need to give up anything other then cap space which going off the Mayne deal we have plenty of.

Rumour is we have another big fish in mind anyway but not sure we will land that one.

Nobody is going to get Fyfe with cap space only. It'll be another Dangerfield situation. Everyone says Carlton, but I reckon St Kilda are in a good spot also.

 

[loki04]

Nobody is going to get Fyfe with cap space only. It'll be another Dangerfield situation. Everyone says Carlton, but I reckon St Kilda are in a good spot also.

Yeah probably unless the offer is stupid monetary wise.

 

[Pedro]

Yeah probably unless the offer is stupid monetary wise.

Lets be honest, he will get a stupid money offer from Freo. I think it will be made well known early that they will match anything that comes their way

 

[loki04]

Lets be honest, he will get a stupid money offer from Freo. I think it will be made well known early that they will match anything that comes their way

Depends on their ladder position and the team he chooses finish position.

If they finish bottom 3 they will get a 2nd top 3 pick if the offer is what I think it will be.

Where as if they force a danger trade they may only receive pick 13 and 29 etc. As with dangers case Geelong still didn't pay "market" value once a player says he wants out no matter what then Freo lose the box seat..

 

[HFF]

Many want us to take a key back however when I read about the player I here the words "negator".

Not sure I want to spend our only real live pick in the draft on this type of player.

I'd rather add another small who can kick and make good decisions.

We will have a first rounder next season and can address our KPP issues then.

 

[Snoop Dog]

If you guys remember Dekka said at the members forum he will look at targetting key backs/KP swing men/small forwards.

I highly doubt we will be taking a mid and with Brown and Daicos more than likely going to be taken by us the small forward area would be covered hopefully.

If one of Ridley or Cox are available we will take them for sure. If both are available will be interesting who he chooses, even more interesting if both are gone what we do then.

Yeah I would be surprised if it's a mid at 28 unless someone they rate drops through. Also might be looking at key defenders who may be available later but you'd think if Ridley, Cox or maybe Maibaum there they take them. I think Ridley will be gone but pretty confident latter two will be there.

 

[wednesdaywarrior]

For me it still comes back to whether Derek rates the player to make it to an elite, best 22 level playing a role in a potential premiership side. If it's a key back and there's any doubt on this why would we draft one just to fill a hole or create depth when we could do that from the state league/rookie list without coughing up our only decent draft pick this year. Next year well have a lot more playing chips and the draft is supposedly stuffed with potentially elite young key position prospects.

We are unlikely to win the flag next year (some would consider this an understatement) but simply need to have enough depth in the key positions to allow our young, promising list to evolve in it's natural improvement. I suspect this was the thinking behind the mature age recruits this year. It is important to be seen to be tracking upward next year, hopefully sneaking into 8th position with a young side. The perception of being a 'destination' club is now pivotal to success.

Final thought: Derek seems to be on this thing of building a versatile list, perhaps similar to the Hawthorn model where players can be thrown around back, forward, mid to suit the situation or create problems for the opposition. I am all for this approach. After trade week Dekka kept using the term 'durable' for WHE. The great man isn't always precise with his words, I think he meant to say 'versatile'. He's trying to gather a lot of players who can play multiple positions a la Reid, White, Howe, WHE.

I suppose certain midfielders when they are a particular height (around the 188cm plus range) could be seen to have this versatility as well. I would expect him to draft for positional range rather than necessarily for one specific position.

 

[Apex36]

Yeah I would be surprised if it's a mid at 28 unless someone they rate drops through. Also might be looking at key defenders who may be available later but you'd think if Ridley, Cox or maybe Maibaum there they take them. I think Ridley will be gone but pretty confident latter two will be there.

A few posters are pretty high on Mitch McCarthy as a late pick, would like to know your thoughts Snoop? Looks like a smooth mover in his highlights package, and understand that he's coming from a fair way back as he was playing basketball in the US until last year. Seems like the under developed type that Hine lives to grab.
I think St Kilda get priority access to him under the indigenous program this year too if he's overlooked in the draft. If we're willing to list Gault for 5 years then surely we grab him if he's available late

 

[Snoop Dog]

A few posters are pretty high on Mitch McCarthy as a late pick, would like to know your thoughts Snoop? Looks like a smooth mover in his highlights package, and understand that he's coming from a fair way back as he was playing basketball in the US until last year. Seems like the under developed type that Hine lives to grab.
I think St Kilda get priority access to him under the indigenous program this year too if he's overlooked in the draft. If we're willing to list Gault for 5 years then surely we grab him if he's available late

I may have had something to do with that as been pretty keen on him for a while. He has some really athletic attributes that I think recruiters will take notice of. His speed, leap and cleanness with the ball in the air and on ground are standouts. He seems to read the game pretty well so his footy knowledge looks good. Post about 40-50 i reckon this draft tapers off and I think it brings him right into the mix. He will take time as he is pretty raw but he is worthy of a spot on a list.

Question is do you take him who has all the upside but is a risk on exposed form or do you look at Ryan Garthwaite who is arguably the best under 18 defender in the land but nobody talks about him because of his kicking action. As a player is terrific 1:1, works off his man, is super clean with his handling and his handball is a weapon. As bad as the kick is it actually works. Cant think of to many that got a hold of him this year.

 

[sr36]

I may have had something to do with that as been pretty keen on him for a while. He has some really athletic attributes that I think recruiters will take notice of. His speed, leap and cleanness with the ball in the air and on ground are standouts. He seems to read the game pretty well so his footy knowledge looks good. Post about 40-50 i reckon this draft tapers off and I think it brings him right into the mix. He will take time as he is pretty raw but he is worthy of a spot on a list.

Question is do you take him who has all the upside but is a risk on exposed form or do you look at Ryan Garthwaite who is arguably the best under 18 defender in the land but nobody talks about him because of his kicking action. As a player is terrific 1:1, works off his man, is super clean with his handling and his handball is a weapon. As bad as the kick is it actually works. Cant think of to many that got a hold of him this year.

By what you're describing, cue the little girl "Why can't we have both" gif.

 

[ccd23]

Griffin Logue if players like Battle, Marshall, Powell-Pepper have all been selected -obviously highly likely, however Tim Membrey slid to a pick in the mid 40's in his draft year and was rated much higher than that pre draft. I was shocked that Collingwood didn't select him with pick 38 that year.

Griffin Logue:

- KPD
- 193cm, 92kg
- Composed and comfortable with ball in hand
- Reads the ball early in flight
- Quality endurance
- Competed well in the WAFL against senior bodies
- Rowing background so possesses a relatively mature body

Notable Draft Combine results:

- Beep test: Equal 1st (15.1)
- Repeat sprint (six x 30m sprint): 7th overall (25.09)
- Standing vertical jump: 4th overall (71cm)
- Vertical jump right foot: 1st (91cm)
- 3km time trial: 5th overall (9.58)

 

[adammania9]

Griffin Logue if players like Battle, Marshall, Powell-Pepper have all been selected -obviously highly likely, however Tim Membrey slid to a pick in the mid 40's in his draft year and was rated much higher than that pre draft. I was shocked that Collingwood didn't select him with pick 38 that year.

Griffin Logue:

- KPD
- 193cm, 92kg
- Composed and comfortable with ball in hand
- Reads the ball early in flight
- Quality endurance
- Competed well i the WAFL against senior bodies
- Rowing background so possesses a relatively mature body

Notable Draft Combine results:

- Beep test: Equal 1st (15.1)
- Repeat sprint (six x 30m sprint): 7th overall (25.09)
- Standing vertical jump: 4th overall (71cm)
- Vertical jump right foot: 1st (91cm)
- 3km time trial: 5th overall (9.58)

I want him just as much as the next guy, but I can't see him slipping past North at 13

 

[ccd23]

I want him just as much as the next guy, but I can't see him slipping past North at 13

I think they have 11. So many sides after that selection that could take him as well. Adelaide, Port, Geelong, the dogs and Richmond. Fingers crossed a slider makes it to 28. Even an early 20s selection would have saved a few fingernails but I'm looking forward to it none the less.

 

[adammania9]

I think they have 11. So many sides after that selection that could take him as well. Adelaide, Port, Geelong, the dogs and Richmond. Fingers crossed a slider makes it to 28. Even an early 20s selection would have saved a few fingernails but I'm looking forward to it none the less.

So they do.. I thought 13 due to the expected academy selections. I'm not really into the sliders unless they specifically fit a need. I wouldn't be too happy with Hine if our first pick came and the recruitment team decided "Hey, this fella is alright. He's rated a top 20 talent. Get him!". Brennan Cox is my man - praying the Tigers or Dogs don't pluck him first. We do know Dekka loves a South Australian.

 

[sr36]

So they do.. I thought 13 due to the expected academy selections. I'm not really into the sliders unless they specifically fit a need. I wouldn't be too happy with Hine if our first pick came and the recruitment team decided "Hey, this fella is alright. He's rated a top 20 talent. Get him!". Brennan Cox is my man - praying the Tigers or Dogs don't pluck him first. We do know Dekka loves a South Australian.

They have kids on a list in order of preference and cross them off when they get selected. Pretty straight forward really. Assumedly, guys like McCluggage, etc. will be on the list and higher than Brennan Cox. If someone high on our list slides all the way to pick 28, we'll nab him.