Southern FL Div One 2015

[The New Link]

Coaches for SFL Div 1 2015
DINGLEY: Shane Morwood
BENTLEIGH: Paul Dimattina (New)
ST PAULS: Mark Dessentt
EAST MALVERN: Justin Cowell
MORDIALLOC: Sam Anstey
EAST BRIGHTON: Ben Murphy
ST KILDA CITY: Alan Loyd (New)
CHELTENHAM: Andrew Butterfield
CHELSEA HEIGHTS: Brad Canavan (New)
CLAYTON:Nick Scanlon (New)

 

[harrylufumbler]

East Brighton are, and deserve to be favourites, Rayson back is a massive inclusion for them. St Pauls will again challenge & the bolter will be the combine East Malvern - Bentleigh will be the other side to make up the final five, there will be a massive drop off from them, at this stage I would even say Mordi will be the next best. St Kilda City, CH & Clayton will be battling relegation, Chelt will be Chelt, good one week hopeless the next.

 

[turn it up]

Hearing some very strong rumours that Heatherton are staying up and Clayton are going to be demoted due to being unfinancial with the league

 

[Pykie]

I wish the league would grow some stones.

It would be the perfect opportunity to rejuvenate both divisions.

Send Mordi and Skye up, send Heatherton and Clayton down if that's the case.

 

[turn it up]

St Kilda City also rumoured that they are entertaining the possibility of going down to Div2

 

[Mahalo]

I wish the league would grow some stones.

It would be the perfect opportunity to rejuvenate both divisions.

Send Mordi and Skye up, send Heatherton and Clayton down if that's the case.

Totally agree. It would bring 2 strong clubs, not just senior teams, up into Div 1 and would give both Magpie clubs the chance to regroup in Div 2.

 

[Scotty_222]

Totally agree. It would bring 2 strong clubs, not just senior teams, up into Div 1 and would give both Magpie clubs the chance to regroup in Div 2.

i would say skye will wanna win the flag before going up

 

[Mahalo]

i would say skye will wanna win the flag before going up

You are probably right but the league should be able to dictate terms in situations such as this.

If Clayton are broke, and I hope that they aren't, and with Heatherton finding life in Div. 1 more and more difficult, surely the decision needs to be made to send them both back to Div. 2. Both Mordy and Skye have depth, plenty of support and hopefully coin to make a fist of promotion.

With East Malvern recruiting heavily, East Brighton, St. Pauls and Dingley presumably being strong again and Chelt, Chelsea Heights, Bentleigh and City, Div. 1 could be the most competitive it has been for many years.

 

[Scotty_222]

You are probably right but the league should be able to dictate terms in situations such as this.

If Clayton are broke, and I hope that they aren't, and with Heatherton finding life in Div. 1 more and more difficult, surely the decision needs to be made to send them both back to Div. 2. Both Mordy and Skye have depth, plenty of support and hopefully coin to make a fist of promotion.

With East Malvern recruiting heavily, East Brighton, St. Pauls and Dingley presumably being strong again and Chelt, Chelsea Heights, Bentleigh and City, Div. 1 could be the most competitive it has been for many years.

everything has a cycle. 5 years ago st kilda city and chelsea heights were the teams in the grand final.
maybe moving forward both teams in the grand final both go up a division.
will be hard in the coming years with talk of so many different teams possibly coming into the comp

 

[superfreak]

Aaron Purvis has signed at City

 

[Bounceback]

League needs a complete overhaul.
Probably best year to throw 'everything out the window' by 1) looking at the zones especially Div 3 Mount-Dandy corridor with so many clubs sourcing from the same player pool which either increases unnecessary player spend or accepting the wrong type of persons to play or socialise in the league 2) stop inter-club transfers, mandatory as all it does is increase club debt and makes stronger strong and weaker weak (easiest fix for 2015). If un-financial clubs must open the dialogue, open their books or F Off.
Get fair dinkum SFL and appoint and auditor to get this right. 3) in 2015 forget 1 up 1 down, start from scratch and put clubs in right Div as though you are starting over again. The whole situation is akin to growing up and wetting the bed, your stuffed to get up and fix it, it feels warm and nice but bloody stinks and you know the longer it goes on the more embarrassing it gets. So get up, wash yourself, change the sheets and go back to sleep.

 

[The New Link]

Aaron Purvis has signed at City

One Minute people are saying they don't have enough money to pay their fees, and next they are getting high profile Players like Aaron Purvis
If they get back all the players they had out injured this year and add a few, they will be up there again in 2015
SO the comp will be stepping up a level next year

 

[The New Link]

Any more on who is coaching
CHELTENHAM:
CLAYTON:
CHELSEA HEIGHTS:

 

[The Enemy Within]

League needs a complete overhaul.
Probably best year to throw 'everything out the window' by 1) looking at the zones especially Div 3 Mount-Dandy corridor with so many clubs sourcing from the same player pool which either increases unnecessary player spend or accepting the wrong type of persons to play or socialise in the league 2) stop inter-club transfers, mandatory as all it does is increase club debt and makes stronger strong and weaker weak (easiest fix for 2015). If un-financial clubs must open the dialogue, open their books or F Off.
Get fair dinkum SFL and appoint and auditor to get this right. 3) in 2015 forget 1 up 1 down, start from scratch and put clubs in right Div as though you are starting over again. The whole situation is akin to growing up and wetting the bed, your stuffed to get up and fix it, it feels warm and nice but bloody stinks and you know the longer it goes on the more embarrassing it gets. So get up, wash yourself, change the sheets and go back to sleep.

Thats a flawed assesment of Div 3 zones if you look at specific corridors have a look at these clubs : East Brighton,Bentleigh,St Pauls,Cheltenham,Hampton,Highett,Moorabbin,Black Rock and Mordialloc all within 10ks of each other no difference at all.

 

[perspective]

League needs a complete overhaul.
Probably best year to throw 'everything out the window' by 1) looking at the zones especially Div 3 Mount-Dandy corridor with so many clubs sourcing from the same player pool which either increases unnecessary player spend or accepting the wrong type of persons to play or socialise in the league 2) stop inter-club transfers, mandatory as all it does is increase club debt and makes stronger strong and weaker weak (easiest fix for 2015). If un-financial clubs must open the dialogue, open their books or F Off.
Get fair dinkum SFL and appoint and auditor to get this right. 3) in 2015 forget 1 up 1 down, start from scratch and put clubs in right Div as though you are starting over again. The whole situation is akin to growing up and wetting the bed, your stuffed to get up and fix it, it feels warm and nice but bloody stinks and you know the longer it goes on the more embarrassing it gets. So get up, wash yourself, change the sheets and go back to sleep.

That is a big call Bounceback but I like your vision. A lot of sporting organisations have gone through a review, Swimming, Athletics off the top of my head so I wonder if what you are saying requires an independent body, perhaps Vicsport to do a review with an unbiased hat on. If AFLV do it then they will want to keep all the clubs afloat to protect the grounds from soccer, and afterall they would have had to approve the inclusion of all the new sides when they were initially introduced some years ago.. I think the other difficulty that the league have is that they also compete against Amateur clubs probably more than any other League although Efl compete as well but not to the extent that SFL do. Like Hampton, Hampton Rovers, Beaumaris, Black Rock, even Moorabbin all compete as district clubs for the pool in that very small pocket... and your point about the south east corridor with so many clubs is also spot on. I think the review should also look very closely at what resources are required to run the comp to a good level. I am not sure if there are not enough or too many employed but if it is going to take 4 weeks plus for an investigation and the Board have still not summoned the 2 clubs in for a decision then perhaps they are either under resourced or inefficient. I appreciate that these things do take time but they have engaged independent professionals to carry out the investigations so surely a report would not take this long. What everyone needs to also get is that once a penalty or sanction is handed out and a possible decision made with regards promotion etc the clubs have the right to appeal that decision which will further delay the process particularly if the SFL are accused of not complying in providing a safe environment for the clubs and players to participate in, duty of care. So much uncertainty may cost clubs players, sponsors and the most important item - volunteers..

 

[Bounceback]

Thats a flawed assesment of Div 3 zones if you look at specific corridors have a look at these clubs : East Brighton,Bentleigh,St Pauls,Cheltenham,Hampton,Highett,Moorabbin,Black Rock and Mordialloc all within 10ks of each other no difference at all.

Hang on, your listed teams represent 5x1st Div. 3 x Div 2 and 1x Div3. All offering vastly different levels of football in structured resources for a true choice to be made.

In my area it is Hallam, Lyndale, Dandenong, EH, Sandown, Mount and could nearly throw Ashwood in there - so that is SEVEN teams all in ONE DIVISION. All offering the same choice and all going around and around in circles as players and coaches switch from one to the other. Also by scrapping the bottom of the playing resources they must take any character good or bad in.

Just my opinion

 

[Bounceback]

That is a big call Bounceback but I like your vision. A lot of sporting organisations have gone through a review, Swimming, Athletics off the top of my head so I wonder if what you are saying requires an independent body, perhaps Vicsport to do a review with an unbiased hat on. If AFLV do it then they will want to keep all the clubs afloat to protect the grounds from soccer, and afterall they would have had to approve the inclusion of all the new sides when they were initially introduced some years ago.. I think the other difficulty that the league have is that they also compete against Amateur clubs probably more than any other League although Efl compete as well but not to the extent that SFL do. Like Hampton, Hampton Rovers, Beaumaris, Black Rock, even Moorabbin all compete as district clubs for the pool in that very small pocket... and your point about the south east corridor with so many clubs is also spot on. I think the review should also look very closely at what resources are required to run the comp to a good level. I am not sure if there are not enough or too many employed but if it is going to take 4 weeks plus for an investigation and the Board have still not summoned the 2 clubs in for a decision then perhaps they are either under resourced or inefficient. I appreciate that these things do take time but they have engaged independent professionals to carry out the investigations so surely a report would not take this long. What everyone needs to also get is that once a penalty or sanction is handed out and a possible decision made with regards promotion etc the clubs have the right to appeal that decision which will further delay the process particularly if the SFL are accused of not complying in providing a safe environment for the clubs and players to participate in, duty of care. So much uncertainty may cost clubs players, sponsors and the most important item - volunteers..

Unfortunately it is not hard to see the differences between leagues and the competitive advantages each of them have to survive. SFL could easily survive and prosper in this generation, however the issue (as you have touched on) is that SFL allows the clubs to run the agendas in terms of market penetration and player attractiveness whilst the other leagues the actual league sets the boundary's for each to compete. Someone at SFL must recognise its competitive strength (not hard) and then control the way clubs go to market in terms of offer and resources. Easy

 

[perspective]

Unfortunately it is not hard to see the differences between leagues and the competitive advantages each of them have to survive. SFL could easily survive and prosper in this generation, however the issue (as you have touched on) is that SFL allows the clubs to run the agendas in terms of market penetration and player attractiveness whilst the other leagues the actual league sets the boundary's for each to compete. Someone at SFL must recognise its competitive strength (not hard) and then control the way clubs go to market in terms of offer and resources. Easy

Sounds like you should throw your hat into the mix to offer support..

 

[Bounceback]

Sounds like you should throw your hat into the mix to offer support..

Nah, plenty of well paid individuals and well credentialed board members apparently at the helm to do that. They can always PM me for my opinion anytime.

 

[The New Link]

League needs a complete overhaul.
Probably best year to throw 'everything out the window' by 1) looking at the zones especially Div 3 Mount-Dandy corridor with so many clubs sourcing from the same player pool which either increases unnecessary player spend or accepting the wrong type of persons to play or socialise in the league 2) stop inter-club transfers, mandatory as all it does is increase club debt and makes stronger strong and weaker weak (easiest fix for 2015). If un-financial clubs must open the dialogue, open their books or F Off.

Get fair dinkum SFL and appoint and auditor to get this right. 3) in 2015 forget 1 up 1 down, start from scratch and put clubs in right Div as though you are starting over again. The whole situation is akin to growing up and wetting the bed, your stuffed to get up and fix it, it feels warm and nice but bloody stinks and you know the longer it goes on the more embarrassing it gets. So get up, wash yourself, change the sheets and go back to sleep.

Thats a flawed assesment of Div 3 zones if you look at specific corridors have a look at these clubs : East Brighton,Bentleigh,St Pauls,Cheltenham,Hampton,Highett,Moorabbin,Black Rock and Mordialloc all within 10ks of each other no difference at all.

This is where the teams are for 2015
So what do you think are too close ?
I would look at Hampton & Moorabbin if they merged together would that be a good fit ?

 

[Fish 20]

This is where the teams are for 2015
So what do you think are too close ?
I would look at Hampton & Moorabbin if they merged together would that be a good fit ?
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And that's just the SFL clubs on this map!!

Would you believe there are 21 VAFA clubs scattered south of the Monash Freeway on the map as well?

Also doesn't include the 5 VAFA clubs located in Albert Park & 1 WRFL club in Port Melbourne just off the map competing with St Kilda City for players either

 

[perspective]

Sounds like both CPL and Mt Wav have been sighted for bringing game into disrepute and CPL coach also sighted for a separate incident.. What is the penalty for bringing game into disrepute?

 

[Sphynx]

Sounds like both CPL and Mt Wav have been sighted for bringing game into disrepute and CPL coach also sighted for a separate incident.. What is the penalty for bringing game into disrepute?

Where did you hear this?

 

[harrylufumbler]

Not sure cpl or my waverley have anything to do with this post ?

 

[Mr Sauce]

Mr Sauce here,

Sauce says 2 East Brighton up and comers in A Bailey and W Hetherington are on the move. This is 95% confirmed, I have been told that they are all but gone to a club in the Northern Central Footy League.

The sauce has been squeezed!!!