Stenglein to Eagles for Waters?

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Grolm37 said:
had to give this thread 100 posts - only seemed fair

TP does hate Freo though
i wonder why he dislikes them so damned much, almost an obsession


Ask your self if you like Port Adelaide, then ask that question to a west coast supporter about liking Fremantle :cool:
 

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Grolm37 said:
no doubt
but how many crows supporters (or port) put threads on the AFL board bagging Port (or the crows) and on such a constant basis


Have you been to the Port Adelaide forum anytime this season?

Go and have a look and ask again ;)
 
Tyson20 said:
actually the choice is all ours moron! we dont get the trade we're after, Tyson doesnt go to Perth in 2004 via Adelaide. he either stays with Adelaide or he goes into the preseason draft...i believe this is now called the "Nick Stevens Rule"... :rolleyes: ;)


I think I made the point earlier that Adelaide do have a choice. BUT if you don't trade him to where he wants to go it makes it hard to resign him if he gets peed off, he then could go into the preseason draft and Adelaide get nada.
This is why clubs will do their best to make a trade happen. Also understand that trades occur between clubs, sometimes you don't get the best end of a deal but what goes around comes around. And this is why the WCE will probably get a good deal but will also work hard to not shaft the AFC.
This comment is not so much to you Tyson but more in using your comment to lead into mine.
 
RIPPER_46 said:
He would be behind Paul Johnson in the pecking order.

Johnson starred in his one game accumulating 1 handpass and giving away 1 freekick.

And Sandilands carved up the opposition ruckmen this year, right Ripper?

Right!

*winks*
 
southjoy said:
I think I made the point earlier that Adelaide do have a choice. BUT if you don't trade him to where he wants to go it makes it hard to resign him if he gets peed off, he then could go into the preseason draft and Adelaide get nada.
This is why clubs will do their best to make a trade happen. Also understand that trades occur between clubs, sometimes you don't get the best end of a deal but what goes around comes around. And this is why the WCE will probably get a good deal but will also work hard to not shaft the AFC.
This comment is not so much to you Tyson but more in using your comment to lead into mine.


Being serious, because we are always serious on the board.

If Tyson S indeed does say the AFC he wishes to go back to WA (WCE) and a reasonable trade can not happen, is he willing to leave Adelaide and head to Victoria for 2 years still not to be guaranteed a trade to WA after that time or sign a new contract with the AFC.

It is in both clubs best interest to work a suitable trade for the player because if it gets back to the player that the WCE (an example) shafted the crows would that player be happy about going there after all
 
Total Package said:
See there is 1 big difference here. People WANT to come to WA to live.... Hence Waters loves it here. People CAN't WAIT to get out of Adelaide... hence Johnson leaving.

Why didn't Johnson go to Perth then?

Mmmmmmm - perhaps other factors at work oh bigoted one.
 
Tyson20 said:
actually the choice is all ours moron! we dont get the trade we're after, Tyson doesnt go to Perth in 2004 via Adelaide. he either stays with Adelaide or he goes into the preseason draft...i believe this is now called the "Nick Stevens Rule"... :rolleyes: ;)

Like you have the depth to try and pull off a Port Adelaide move :rolleyes:
 
Jabber said:
Like you have the depth to try and pull off a Port Adelaide move :rolleyes:

Think about it.

Adelaide don't trade with West Coast. Stinger goes into the pre-season draft.

Adelaide has pick 5, West Coast has pick 9 at best. Victorian clubs have picks 1-4.

Stinger will never get to Perth that way.

A deal will either be done or he will stay in Adelaide. Simple as that.
 

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Jars458 said:
Think about it.

Adelaide don't trade with West Coast. Stinger goes into the pre-season draft.

Adelaide has pick 5, West Coast has pick 9 at best. Victorian clubs have picks 1-4.

Stinger will never get to Perth that way.

A deal will either be done or he will stay in Adelaide. Simple as that.

Price himself out of the PS draft and play a year of WAFL - simple as that.
 
Since when was it a requirment to have a talented defensive midfielder??, I think its pretty stupid to come on this board and point out the problems of a midfield that has beaten the Brisbane midfield 4 outta 5 times. We have won 8 out of our past 9 because we have such an attacking midfield. If anything we should add another attacking midfielders so we can run teams off there feet. Why would we change our game plan now. Having a very attacking midfield has worked for us and teams like Brisbane, why wouldnt it work for us..

As far as Stenglein for Waters goes, I think it is very unlikely. If my memory serves me correctly there was an article in the West about Beau Waters and Butler renting an apartment together next year. Sure didnt sound like he had intentions on leaving. To me it sounds like Adelaide media trying to create interest to keep the Adelaide fans watching there show and to give them hope i guess. Chad Fletcher seems to think that a 2nd Rounder and a decent player like Chambers would be enough to get Stenglein over here so ill just trust his opinion before i listen to you all. To me that sounds like a fair and even deal which Adelaide fans should just live with. He wants to go, He will go and thats the most your gonna get for him..
 
F-U said:
Chad Fletcher seems to think that a 2nd Rounder and a decent player like Chambers would be enough to get Stenglein over here so ill just trust his opinion before i listen to you all.
Where did you see that one?
 
Jars458 said:
Think about it.

Adelaide don't trade with West Coast. Stinger goes into the pre-season draft.

Adelaide has pick 5, West Coast has pick 9 at best. Victorian clubs have picks 1-4.

Stinger will never get to Perth that way.

A deal will either be done or he will stay in Adelaide. Simple as that.

He wants to go back.... if Adelaide don't do a deal they will just have an unmotivated player living in a city he doesn't want to be in... in a team that will struggle near the bottom of the ladder.... and thats at best. At worst he will leave and go in the draft and Adelaide will get nothing for him... and Adelaide are in no position to be losing their so called best players for nothing. The Eagles? Well they don't need him... so they won't be giving up quality players to get him. There is only 2 possible losers in this and thats Stenglein or Adelaide.
 
Total Package said:
He wants to go back.... if Adelaide don't do a deal they will just have an unmotivated player living in a city he doesn't want to be in... in a team that will struggle near the bottom of the ladder.... and thats at best. At worst he will leave and go in the draft and Adelaide will get nothing for him... and Adelaide are in no position to be losing their so called best players for nothing. The Eagles? Well they don't need him... so they won't be giving up quality players to get him. There is only 2 possible losers in this and thats Stenglein or Adelaide.

Or West Coast who get a player they clearly don't need if you listen to the fans, instead of drafting young blood? If WCE don't need him then he can move back to Perth and be a plumber if he likes it so much.

Not bagging WCE - just saying that just because a player wants to move to a city doesn't mean the team they want to go to should do anything but trade for what they want.
 
funkyfreo said:
Or West Coast who get a player they clearly don't need if you listen to the fans, instead of drafting young blood? If WCE don't need him then he can move back to Perth and be a plumber if he likes it so much.

Not bagging WCE - just saying that just because a player wants to move to a city doesn't mean the team they want to go to should do anything but trade for what they want.

I think we have enough young blood. We have 15 players 23 years old and under in the team and the moment and a whole heap like Nicoski, Hansen, Jones, Johnson, Selwood etc who are all under 22 and can't get into the team or are injured. The only thing where we are lacking is maybe in the back half... having another medium-tall like a Adam Hunter to play on someone like an o'Loughlin.

but...whilst we are on the subject of midfields... there is one guy who might end up starting in the centre on Saturday night and ripping Sydney a new arseh*le.. and it will be a guy they have not have thought of... his name is not Judd, Kerr, Fletcher, Cousins, Embley or Braun. He is young and they have played him in the middle in spurts this year and he has looked absolute class.... but Worsfold has moved him back into the forward line so that he doesn't grab too many opposition coaches attention. An identical thing was done in 1990 with a certain Chris Lewis who was unleashed in the middle in the finals and dominated..... and yes this player does strike a resemblence ;) Just remember where you heard it first ;)
 
Jabber said:
Price himself out of the PS draft and play a year of WAFL - simple as that.

And then what?

Not that it matters. We all know only there will only be one of two outcomes. Stinger to WC or stay at Adelaide. I'd say him going to Fremantle is perhaps an outside chance too.

Comments like the above are just getting ridiculous.


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Total Package said:
I think we have enough young blood. We have 15 players 23 years old and under in the team and the moment and a whole heap like Nicoski, Hansen, Jones, Johnson, Selwood etc who are all under 22 and can't get into the team or are injured. The only thing where we are lacking is maybe in the back half... having another medium-tall like a Adam Hunter to play on someone like an o'Loughlin.

but...whilst we are on the subject of midfields... there is one guy who might end up starting in the centre on Saturday night and ripping Sydney a new arseh*le.. and it will be a guy they have not have thought of... his name is not Judd, Kerr, Fletcher, Cousins, Embley or Braun. He is young and they have played him in the middle in spurts this year and he has looked absolute class.... but Worsfold has moved him back into the forward line so that he doesn't grab too many opposition coaches attention. An identical thing was done in 1990 with a certain Chris Lewis who was unleashed in the middle in the finals and dominated..... and yes this player does strike a resemblence ;) Just remember where you heard it first ;)


STEGGLES!!!!!
 
id love stenglein at the eagles. he would work as a great utility, taking on a tough defensive role week to week, be it in the midfield or defense. or could be thrown into the midfield as an in-and-under ball getter to back up kerr if we are getting beaten.

with gardiner presumably spending more time up forward in future instead of in the ruck, that kind of marginalizes beech a bit, especially as mcdougal, hansen and lynch are starting to string good games together now.

i hope we can get him for (something like) chambers and our number 2, he would be a definite improvement over the likes of green and hunter.
 
BigBoss said:
Would Stenglein get a game in the Brisbane/Port/StKilda midfield?
Then WTF would West Coast want with him!?!
We already have Roan Jones and Kasey Green who are at his level.. and they play WAFL.

Big Boss,

I think there's photocopying to be done...
 

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