Supercoach 2009 - Discussions

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BTW has Coughlan been ruled out for this year, because I like his current price of $260,000 atm, and if he doesn't play this season he could go down to the price of a rookie, as that price doesn't taken into account he hasn't played a game all season.
 

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BTW has Coughlan been ruled out for this year, because I like his current price of $260,000 atm, and if he doesn't play this season he could go down to the price of a rookie, as that price doesn't taken into account he hasn't played a game all season.

I doubt Coughlan will play this year, if you were the Richmond coaching staff, would you bother?
 
Just a quick question for those that have played SC before. When working out the starting price for 09 will they just carry across the finishing price from 08 or do they use the players average score over the 08 season & multiply that by the factor "thingy", I think it was 5.something this year?
 
Just a quick question for those that have played SC before. When working out the starting price for 09 will they just carry across the finishing price from 08 or do they use the players average score over the 08 season & multiply that by the factor "thingy", I think it was 5.something this year?

Yeah they use the averages.

I was talking about price wise you nong! :p

They will be treated the same still...still use theyre averages. Shaw will be cheap...everyone knew that already
 
Yeah they use the averages.



They will be treated the same still...still use theyre averages. Shaw will be cheap...everyone knew that already


For all playetrs? This is my first year/.....

for example dalziel has an average over 100... but has only played 3 games.. if his average ends up being say 102 or something.. but only plays 5-6 games... will his price be up with the other players who have a 102 av even though they are players who have played for a couple opf years?
 
For all playetrs? This is my first year/.....

for example dalziel has an average over 100... but has only played 3 games.. if his average ends up being say 102 or something.. but only plays 5-6 games... will his price be up with the other players who have a 102 av even though they are players who have played for a couple opf years?

It's also weighted against games played. Because he'll play a maximum of 7-8 games his average won't be treated the same as a player who plays 20+ games
 
For all playetrs? This is my first year/.....

for example dalziel has an average over 100... but has only played 3 games.. if his average ends up being say 102 or something.. but only plays 5-6 games... will his price be up with the other players who have a 102 av even though they are players who have played for a couple opf years?

We were trying to figure that out on the DT board the other day in this thread:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472780

Basically the conclusion that we came to was that players who play very few games, as Dalziell has this year, may get a discount towards their 2009 prices (no guarantees though). Keep in mind that this is a DT thread, so some of the particulars may be different for SC, but if Dalziell continues to play out the season it is more than likely he will be the most overpriced player available next season. The most pertinent post of the thread was this one from SkankDanker:

At the beginning of each year I have downloaded the entire playing lists for the last few years to check and I can assure you that the price is based purely on average regardless of the number of games played. Don't make me post em all...

There is a handful of players who are discounted for no real reason.

As far as player discounts, we'll just have to wait and see.
 

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Foley?

He was fantastic in SC last year, has been tagged reasonably well this year and only getting the 70's-80's mark mostly.

Might be a good buy next year? :thumbsu:
 
90% sure on my rucks for next year

Cox Petrie Natanui Vickery

Watts as a reserve in fwd

depending on form late in year dangerfeild on bench or on feild

hurley =best defender in draft = reserve

Mid Ablett gibbs judd hodge

Get on the porps he should be cheap due to late season injuries resulting in price drop
 
Unless Ablett has a few bad weeks to finish this season I won't be buying him next year. There is no reason to suggest that he wont go back to being a normal midfield gun as Bartel did this season.

Judd is a must imo. He didn't have much of a pre-season this year and is still averaging 107 odd. We know he can average very big and at 25 (yea still so young) he should be peaking. Carlton on the rise as well.
 
Judd is a must imo. He didn't have much of a pre-season this year and is still averaging 107 odd. We know he can average very big and at 25 (yea still so young) he should be peaking. Carlton on the rise as well.

Was thinking this just yesterday. Have had him in my team all year, thought I'd pick him up as a serviceable player, can't believe how well he has done. First in for '09 :thumbsu:.

Could someone help me out as to how the SC prices are worked out? Considering the stagnant salary cap each year, do the prices stay the same each year as well?
 
Jason Akermanis is currently 294k. So i'd consider him for next year if his price remains the same.

Jason Porplyzia is still only 353k. Could he go up even further next year?

Coughlan for the Tigers will be the Nick Stevens of 2009 i reckon. And Foley if you have the guts, could go sick next year, especially since his value has gone down almost 100k this year.

Judd i reckon will be a definate, since he can get even better than he normally is. Chad Cornes is a certain get.

And Buddy, definatley getting him as my first forward. Since he has so much scope for improvement, and already gets monster scores.

And guns who have gone down on their 2007 starting price include;

Brett Kirk (down 105k)
J. Brown (down 95k)
Heath Shaw (down 198k)
Andy Mac (down 133k)
Goodes (down 101k)
NDS (down 148k)

Amazingley, Dean Cox has gone up on his original price from 2007. :(
 
Jason Akermanis is currently 294k. So i'd consider him for next year if his price remains the same.

Jason Porplyzia is still only 353k. Could he go up even further next year?

Coughlan for the Tigers will be the Nick Stevens of 2009 i reckon. And Foley if you have the guts, could go sick next year, especially since his value has gone down almost 100k this year.

Judd i reckon will be a definate, since he can get even better than he normally is. Chad Cornes is a certain get.

And Buddy, definatley getting him as my first forward. Since he has so much scope for improvement, and already gets monster scores.

And guns who have gone down on their 2007 starting price include;

Brett Kirk (down 105k)
J. Brown (down 95k)
Heath Shaw (down 198k)
Andy Mac (down 133k)
Goodes (down 101k)
NDS (down 148k)

Amazingley, Dean Cox has gone up on his original price from 2007. :(

Current prices have nothing to do with their price next year. It's all about their average and a magic number. Some of the players you listed may be around the price they are just by coincidence.
 
Current prices have nothing to do with their price next year. It's all about their average and a magic number. Some of the players you listed may be around the price they are just by coincidence.

Does said 'magic number' change for SC each year? Does anybody know what it is/was?
 
Does said 'magic number' change for SC each year? Does anybody know what it is/was?

For those looking ahead to next year, as their 2008 season is over, might want to read on.

To calculate player prices for 2009, for guys who have played at least 7 games, I multiplied their 2008 average (correct to the nearest whole number) by 5252 (the potential magic number). A six digit number will come up, and these are the results.

ie. Gary Ablett 136x5252= 714 272
Lance Frankiln 109x5252= 573 468
Josh Drummond 89x5252= 467 428
Heath Shaw 92x 5252= 483 184
Brad Ottens 64x5252 = 336 128

For players that have played 0 games they will get a 40% discount next season
ie. Mark Coughlan 0.6x260 000=155000
Paul Haselby 0.6x467 000 = 280200
Nathan Ablett 0.6x307 000=184200

Other players who have played 1-6 games will either get a 10, 20, 30, or 40% discount- the more games you play, the less a discount you receive.
For these players calculate their price as you would with my first example, and then times that number by either 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, or 0.9, to get an estimated discounted price.

I hope this has helped you with 2009 planning, in regards to 'the magic number'. The magic number was only a guess, so this should be used as a guide only.
 
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