NO TROLLS Taylor Walker racial slur

[1970crow]

The weird thing is McClure claims the alleged conversation was from within the huddle to another Crows player. I've been in thousands of huddles over my life and not once have I heard a conversation between players from within the oppositions teams huddle. You hear angry coach screams, and the team breaking the huddle, but never any internal conversations.

If it were players and spectators chirping back and forth with each other on the walk before the huddle, that's one thing, but actually in the huddle, you would have Buckley's chance at overhearing anything that was said.

Something's missing in this article

Yeh, I never saw that rapist that I knew rape anybody either, so there's absolutely no way they could have done what they're being accused of. You can't be serious with this line of defence. You're saying that the players that are saying they heard him say something didn't hear it and your reasoning is because you've never heard anything in a huddle. And to be honest, this attempt to shoot the messenger is ridiculous. My first though is that I wouldn't have though Tex to be in the huddle, normally the non-players are a little way back talking among themselves, not in the cut and thrust of the huddle. So I then read the article again and it clearly states that the supposed comments were made "at" the quarter time huddle, not "in" the quarter time huddle. So you need to go back to the drawing board on this. what you've posted is total rubbish.

 

[Maddogmetro]

Yeh, I never saw that rapist that I knew rape anybody either, so there's absolutely no way they could have done what they're being accused of. You can't be serious with this line of defence. You're saying that the players that are saying they heard him say something didn't hear it and your reasoning is because you've never heard anything in a huddle. And to be honest, this attempt to shoot the messenger is ridiculous. My first though is that I wouldn't have though Tex to be in the huddle, normally the non-players are a little way back talking among themselves, not in the cut and thrust of the huddle. So I then read the article again and it clearly states that the supposed comments were made "at" the quarter time huddle, not "in" the quarter time huddle. So you need to go back to the drawing board on this. what you've posted is total rubbish.

To be fair, you've just made up inferences without any proof to back your thoughts.

 

[ams4crows]

The positive, that this was *allegedly* said in the huddle so only Crows people were around and somebody stood up to a leader and star of the club and said "Hey that's not ok to say"

That's community progress, we need more people calling others out when they step over the racism line.

 

[1970crow]

Correct.

The inference is definitely that Crows players or an official reported it to the Club...

Gee whiz, Sam would want to have gotten that one right, because he'd certainly need to have some solid evidence to even state the above, if he hasn't he'd be opening himself up to litigation.....again.

He's not, he's only reporting what has happened so far. He's not suggesting that Tex did it, only that there are accusations and that the AFC has passed it up to the AFL. These are facts. If you were to suggest him guilty, then you'd be opening yourself up to action.

 

[1970crow]

Just because I want to believe the best from Tex I could imagine him saying something like "he's a ******* dog/mongrel" in response to that and perhaps people not seeing the incident maybe thinking it's racially motivated?

Can definitely see this being a possibility the way the education system shits in kids ears these days. A non-racist negative comment is perceived as racist purely because of the colour of that persons skin. The person making the comment isn't racist, the delicate little teenage ****wit is though.

 

[Mutineer]

The weird thing is McClure claims the alleged conversation was from within the huddle to another Crows player. I've been in thousands of huddles over my life and not once have I heard a conversation between players from within the oppositions teams huddle. You hear angry coach screams, and the team breaking the huddle, but never any internal conversations.

If it were players and spectators chirping back and forth with each other on the walk before the huddle, that's one thing, but actually in the huddle, you would have Buckley's chance at overhearing anything that was said.

Something's missing in this article

I don't even think the timeline is right given Robbie Young's cowardly action belting Matt Crouch in the guts and racing off at 100 K/M/H like the weak so and so he is....that happened early in the 2nd quarter and given Tex is close with Matty I'd think if any reference to Young was made it would be after that lowly act of Young's?

 

[GrommoT]

Well, this could inadvertently help our pick 1 hopes


If we suspended him off our own decision, could we be open to the ∀FL charging us with tanking? At least now, the ∀FL would have a hand in suspending Tex (if it comes to that).

 

[Maddogmetro]

He's not, he's only reporting what has happened so far. He's not suggesting that Tex did it, only that there are accusations and that the AFC has passed it up to the AFL. These are facts. If you were to suggest him guilty, then you'd be opening yourself up to action.

You obviously know nothing about media techniques then. Articles are worded and structured to infer something that isn't necessarily explicitly stated. People are not that smart.

 

[1970crow]

Using word dog maybe considered racial slur for some.

Calling those that ordinarily would be referred a 'dog' is generally doing a disservice to dogs. Dogs are amazingly loyal animals and many breeds would lay down there very lives against insurmountable odds to protect their pack. It's a slur that I see in the same vein as the 'king hit', it just doesn't make sense. Unless 'king hit' came from the king getting the first whack in without any risk of other person protecting themselves in olden time fights.

 

[1970crow]

And?

I knew you'd jump headlong into defence of Tex without information of anything to do with the club. A normally minded person awaits the outcome before either crucifying the complainants or the alleged perpetrator.

 

[SydCrow]

He should have just called him a campaigner.

 

[Golumless]

Long audible sigh.

 

[CrowMike]

Any word on the alleged words/ phrases that were used? DM me.

 

[StonesThrow]

He should have just called him a campaigner.

an insufferable campaigner

 

[1970crow]

So why wouldn't the club suspend him straight away?

Another judge, jury and executioner i see!

Club has run their own investigation and haven't arrived at a conclusion, so they've handballed it upstairs. Tex is innocent until proven guilty and whilst in dispute he should continue to play. That we haven't suspended him doesn't speak to much in either direction. We're not exactly objective arbiters when it comes to looking after our club champs. But there's no doubt that whatever has gone down, we didn't feel we could stare down the complainants and tell them to GAGF, we've run our investigation and this is the outcome, like it or **** off elsewhere. The internal machinations are the interesting bit for now, the remarks themselves are boring until we get a result from the AFL investigation.

 

[1970crow]

Joke at the start of the thread aside (which I stand by, McClure can be right and a campaigner at the same time, the two aren't mutually exclusive) I agree with the consensus.

Zero tolerance

And if it weakens us for North Melbourne so much the better

I've a different view, there can be a large chasm between language used between inner city types and country kids that grew up with Aboriginal people as mates. I don't doubt that the inner city types thought they heard a racists comment, but it's equally as plausible that Tex was using language that was perfectly ok around actual Aboriginal people throughout his entire early life.

 

[Deaneus!]

I call bullshit.

although they can dock us premiership points if they want, all of them.

Calling those that ordinarily would be referred a 'dog' is generally doing a disservice to dogs. Dogs are amazingly loyal animals and many breeds would lay down there very lives against insurmountable odds to protect their pack.

Yup, one of my language bugbears, drives me nuts. Also, use of the word campaigner in a derogatory fashion… “you’re a campaigner!”

oh, I’m a part of the female anatomy you’re practically obsessed with and would beg to get near? noted

 

[pjcrows]

Until we know what was allegedly said it's impossible to say anything definitive, really.

If it was an obvious racial slur then then I don't think you'd get too many arguments for a public apology and a decent spell.

It'll be interesting to see how the club handle it. Typically we're good at towing party lines (read: AFL lines) rather than backing in the player.

And those ticked off by McClure mentioning the camp - that's why he did it. Extra coin in his pocket from Twitter Interactivity KPIs.

 

[WetCrow1991]

Well that's extremely poorly worded from you, Scorpus, because it's not a scandal if it's not true, buddy.

This is gossip column stuff until it can be verified, and you shouldn't be feeding the leeches on this thread until his guilt is proven.

Nah you've just ****ed up and misunderstood buddy.

 

[Cap]

Typically pathetic apologism from you. His source is mutliple players and officials.

your literacy is questionable

I didn't say it wasn't true, just that it had to be Sam Mclure and he had to mention the camp.

 

[FR0GGY]

What? Did you read the article??

It's not saying that anyone in the opposition heard it, it's inferring that several Crows players and an official heard it, and it was reported back to Crows admin, who've forwarded the allegation to the AFL.

Did you read it?
It literally says:
“which is believed to have upset several of the player’s teammates who want action to be taken if the comment was made.”

 

[Mutineer]

He should have just called him a campaigner.

And by all reports that would be on point given his Tribunal record.

 

[FR0GGY]

I've just had this 100% confirmed from a guy who knew about it a week ago.

allegedly what was said was very average, and some players very unhappy about it.

Crows players or north players?

 

[pjcrows]

I read that as Robbie Young's team mates were upset, not Walker's team mates. But I might be wrong.

Also "upset IF it was made". Well you're only upset if the comment was made. Why would they be upset if it wasn't made?

Clever (speculative) journalism.

 

[Mutineer]

Did you read it?
It literally says:
“which is believed to have upset several of the player’s teammates who want action to be taken if the comment was made.”

If?
Surely they would be aware if it was made or not?