Team Rd 1

[crows dude]

Callinan Tippett Mckernan
Porplysia Walker Henderson
Vince Dangerfield Mckay
Otten Davis Vanberlo
Johncock Rutten Sellar


Moran
Douglas
Thompson

Interchange
Martin
Petrenko
Smith
Sub - Stevens

 

[Pariah]

B: Johncock - Rutten - Stevens
HB: Tambling - Davis - Otten
C: Mackay - S.Thompson - Van Berlo
HF: Porplyzia - Walker - Knights
F Dangerfield - Tippett - Callinan
1R: Jacobs - Vince - Douglas
Interchange: Henderson - Doughty -Sloane
Sub: Jaensch
Emergencies: Talia - Reilly - Martin
Unlucky not to get a spot in the team: Maric, Mckernan, Sellar, Young, Smith, Petrenko, Gunston, Armtstrong and Symes.

It was tougher selecting the team for round 1 this time around with because of the extra depth we now have and the fact that we can only have 3 interchange players.

After last nights performances I'd probably make make only 1 change.

If Richard Tambling's form doesn't improve by round 1 I would replace him with either Brodie Smith, Brodie Martin,Matthew Jaensch, Brent Reilly, Jared Petrenko or Brad Symes.

If Bernie Vince or David Mackay aren't fit by round one I'd replace them with two of the following Brodie Smith, Brodie Martin, Brent Reilly or Matthew Jaensch.

 

[VSTone]

Johncock, Rutten, Stevens
Doughty, Davis, Otten
Symes, Thompson, Henderson
Knights, Walker, Douglas
Porplyzia, Tippet, Van Berlo

Moran, Vince, Dangerfield
Sloane, Reilly, Petrenko,
(Mckernan)

 

[Allefgib]

The one thing I do want to see by round 1 and then carried throughout the rest of the year is to throw out the team security concept.

If injuries are low there could be many players pushing for a spot in the best 22. We really need to focus on getting ames into all of those players and not just stick with a best 22 based on the fact someone is an incumbent having 'earnt' there position over a number of years and still playing good enough football to be in the side. If we have enough players good enough to be in the best 22 every week then selection needs to be earnt each and every week.

Lose the team security and end up with a better team.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Johncock, Rutten, Stevens
Doughty, Davis, Otten
Symes, Thompson, Henderson
Knights, Walker, Douglas
Porplyzia, Tippet, Van Berlo

Moran, Vince, Dangerfield
Sloane, Reilly, Petrenko,
(Mckernan)

Swap Moran for Jacobs and sadly, this is the team NC will pick for round one.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

The one thing I do want to see by round 1 and then carried throughout the rest of the year is to throw out the team security concept.

If injuries are low there could be many players pushing for a spot in the best 22. We really need to focus on getting ames into all of those players and not just stick with a best 22 based on the fact someone is an incumbent having 'earnt' there position over a number of years and still playing good enough football to be in the side. If we have enough players good enough to be in the best 22 every week then selection needs to be earnt each and every week.

Lose the team security and end up with a better team.

Yeah, good luck with that. Not going to happen. Stubborn Neil is stubborn Neil for a reason.

 

[Allefgib]

And just to be clear I'm not advocating playing all younger guys - I just want team security gone.

I want us to pick a side based on form and required balance each and every week.

Sure that probably means if fit that Thommo/Tips/Rutten are pretty much put on the board straight away as the structure and balance of the side works best when all 3 are fit and in the side. From there look at form and side balance to pick the rest of the side.

If Brodie Smith is in form and pushing for selection and David Mackay struggling to get it together - make the change.

If we lack hardness at the ball and run and Symes is in form and Tambling is hitting guys lace out but soft - make the change.

If Maric is 1R and has a game where he looks like he has hit a wall - don't let him play thorugh it, rest him and make a switch to Moran/Jacobs (assuming in reasonable form).

 

[ruscy002]

Will have a go...

B: Johncock - Rutten - Petrenko
HB: Doughty - Davis - Otten
C: Tambling - Thompson - Van Berlo
HF: Dangerfield - Walker - Knights
F: Porplyzia - Tippett - Callinan

R: Jacobs - Vince - Douglas
I: Mackay - Reilly - McKernan
S: Moran

Players missing out are:

Stevens - misses out because Otten is a quicker third tall option that can hurt the opposition more with his run and carry. On team balance we don't need Otto in the midfield yet.

Symes - is fighting it out for the same sort of spot as Doughty/Tambling, and I have them in front of him at the moment.

Hendo - starts in the SANFL because I expect/hope that Knights will pass him as a HFF option before round 1. If not then they're a straight swap.

Jaensch - only missing out on team balance, will get opportunities.

Maric - coin toss between him and Jacobs. I have Moran as the sub because he offers greater versatility and I'm hoping McKernan continues his form to provide the back-up ruck option.

Martin - same deal as Jaensch. Either of these guys (or Symes) could be a swap for Tambling if he really stinks up the rest of the NAB Cup/Challenge.

Sloane - shit, can't believe I couldn't find a spot for him...might have to rethink this team. Maybe could pass Reilly at some point as a tagger???

Smith - really wanted to get him in too, but not just yet.

Sellar - seems a long way off now after McKernan's performance last night.

Young - could easily have him as the third tall defender if we go with Otto in the midfield.

Hard to see guys like Stevens and Symes missing from the first 22 but I'd leave them out to make them earn their spots and to give the younger guys a chance of making a spot their own.

I love the competion for spots that comes from a fit and healthy list, I could not have imagined leaving some of these guys out before I started constructing the 22

 

[Huntercrow]

If no injuries

the walk up starts would be (and there ain't that many)

Danger
Davis
Johncock
Rutten
S.Thompson
Tippet
Van Berlo
Douglas
Sloane
Porps
Martin

And then...

Walker
Jacobs
Hendo
Stevens
Vince
Doughty
Smith
Knights
Mackay
Otten
Smack

pushing for the first 22...

Reilly
Gunston
Jaensch
Maric
Moran
Pets
Symes
Tambling
Sellar

Not yet..

Armstrong
Cooke
Craig
Lyons
Shaw
Talia
L.Thompson
Young

I have Sloane and Martin as certain starters and Stevo and Doughty to start (We'll need players with experience)

 

[Bockchoy67]

Lots of people with Smith in their 22.

Really rate the kid but give him some time. He might be ready, but he might not be as well. Last night was a step-up no doubt and he seemed very comfortable, but there's another few steps up for the real thing.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Our 21
Dangerfield
Davis
Doughty
Douglas
Jacobs
Johncock
Knights
Mackay
Otten
Porplyzia
Reilly
Rutten
Sloane
Stevens
Symes
Tambling
S Thompson
Tippett
van Berlo
Vince
Walker

Sub/Emergencies/Injury Cover out of these guys
Gunston
Henderson
Jaensch
Maric
Martin
McKernan
Moran
Petrenko
Smith

Nowhere near getting a game at the moment
Armstrong
Cook
Craig
Lyons
Sellar
Shaw
Talia
L Thompson
Young
Callinan
Wright
other rookies

 

[BACCS]

Our 21
Dangerfield
Davis
Doughty
Douglas
Jacobs
Johncock
Knights
Mackay
Otten
Porplyzia
Reilly
Rutten
Sloane
Stevens
Symes
Tambling
S Thompson
Tippett
van Berlo
Vince
Walker

Sub/Emergencies/Injury Cover out of these guys
Gunston
Henderson
Jaensch
Maric
Martin
McKernan
Moran
Petrenko
Smith

Nowhere near getting a game at the moment
Armstrong
Cook
Craig
Lyons
Sellar
Shaw
Talia
L Thompson
Young
Callinan
Wright
other rookies

Huh I could understand if they were in the injury cover section, but no way near? That is just ridiculous.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Huh I could understand if they were in the injury cover section, but no way near? That is just ridiculous.

Mate, I named THIRTY players ahead of them.

Even if they are the best of that last group that would make them Player 31 and Player 32.

That's nowehere near it in any language.

Who of my first thirty are you scrubbing?

 

[SydCrow]

Mate, I named THIRTY players ahead of them.

Even if they are the best of that last group that would make them Player 31 and Player 32.

That's nowehere near it in any language.

Who of my first thirty are you scrubbing?

In pure talent terms I agree with you, but I would put Sellar in as cover for Rutten, Davis or Stevens ahead of anyone in your subs/emergencies

I'm not sold on Tambling yet either

otherwise I reckon you are spot on

 

[ruscy002]

Mate, I named THIRTY players ahead of them.

Even if they are the best of that last group that would make them Player 31 and Player 32.

That's nowehere near it in any language.

Who of my first thirty are you scrubbing?

I agree with Sellar but Callinan is closer than you've indicated, purely from a structural point of view. We have no small forward of his type in our team (ie Porps leads up, Knights plays even higher), so with a good pre-season I think he's a lock for round 1. Sloane is close to this role but I'm backing in the specialist small forward.

Our 22s are quite similar, but I dared to dream with Pets and Smack in for Stevens and Symes

 

[BACCS]

Mate, I named THIRTY players ahead of them.

Even if they are the best of that last group that would make them Player 31 and Player 32.

That's nowehere near it in any language.

Who of my first thirty are you scrubbing?

I would have both ahead of Smith and Gunston at this stage, people are looking into last night way too far.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I would have both ahead of Smith and Gunston at this stage, people are looking into last night way too far.

Ok that's fair enough.

I'd have both Smith and Gunston ahead of them on current ability and on potential but you could be on the money with how the club views them.

 

[Campbell's Chunky]

This is how I'd go in...

B: Johncock, Rutten, Stevens
HB: Tambling, Davis, Van Berlo
C: Otten, Thompson, Mackay
HF: Douglas, Henderson, Knights
F: Walker, Tippett, Porplyzia
R: Jacobs, Vince, Dangerfield

I: McKernan, Sloane, Callinan
Sub: Martin

Unlucky: Doughty. He will play Round 1 IMO, but this is my team. Reilly also, but I rate him little.

 

[courageous_tom]

This is how I'd go in...



Unlucky: Doughty. He will play Round 1 IMO, but this is my team. Reilly also, but I rate him little.

Jeez the selectors are going to have a difficult year if everyone stays fit.

 

[spexau]

Jeez the selectors are going to have a difficult year if everyone stays fit.

No kidding. I've tried a few times to get a best 22 and have given up! Just have a solid 30 players who could all play in the 22 come round 1.

 

[sliver member]

Will have a go...

B: Johncock - Rutten - Petrenko
HB: Doughty - Davis - Otten
C: Tambling - Thompson - Van Berlo
HF: Dangerfield - Walker - Knights
F: Porplyzia - Tippett - Callinan

R: Jacobs - Vince - Douglas
I: Mackay - Reilly - McKernan
S: Moran

Players missing out are:

Stevens - misses out because Otten is a quicker third tall option that can hurt the opposition more with his run and carry. On team balance we don't need Otto in the midfield yet.

Symes - is fighting it out for the same sort of spot as Doughty/Tambling, and I have them in front of him at the moment.

Hendo - starts in the SANFL because I expect/hope that Knights will pass him as a HFF option before round 1. If not then they're a straight swap.

Jaensch - only missing out on team balance, will get opportunities.

Maric - coin toss between him and Jacobs. I have Moran as the sub because he offers greater versatility and I'm hoping McKernan continues his form to provide the back-up ruck option.

Martin - same deal as Jaensch. Either of these guys (or Symes) could be a swap for Tambling if he really stinks up the rest of the NAB Cup/Challenge.

Sloane - shit, can't believe I couldn't find a spot for him...might have to rethink this team. Maybe could pass Reilly at some point as a tagger???

Smith - really wanted to get him in too, but not just yet.

Sellar - seems a long way off now after McKernan's performance last night.

Young - could easily have him as the third tall defender if we go with Otto in the midfield.

Hard to see guys like Stevens and Symes missing from the first 22 but I'd leave them out to make them earn their spots and to give the younger guys a chance of making a spot their own.

I love the competion for spots that comes from a fit and healthy list, I could not have imagined leaving some of these guys out before I started constructing the 22

you must be dreaming if you think scott stevens won't play round 1 unless injury he will play the three tall defender. Neil craig has said that otten will be pushing up more towards the midfield this year.

 

[lunacy]

In pure talent terms I agree with you, but I would put Sellar in as cover for Rutten, Davis or Stevens ahead of anyone in your subs/emergencies

I'm not sold on Tambling yet either

otherwise I reckon you are spot on

Gees early days still, but we'd want him to improve pretty quickly over the next few weeks considering what we gave up for him in a strong/deep draft.

I'm not off the train yet and I know he missed a chunk of preseason, but he certainly hasn't escaped the spotlight. To give up 2 picks in a good draft you'd want him to be best 22 by round 1.

 

[sbenno]

Using Carls 21 ('cos I cbf coming up with my own)

B Johncock Rutten Doughty
HB Tambling Stevens van Berlo
C Otten Vince Mackay
HF Dangerfield Knights Douglas
F Walker Tippett Porplyzia

R Jacobs S Thompson Sloane
Int Symes Reilly Davis
Sub McKernan

Back to front as I see it:

Backline: Looks good, easily the most experienced and comfortable part of the ground for us. Davis, Otten, and Symes (and Walker LOL jk) can rotate through here if things aren't going well.

Mids: Not so experienced. Mackay and Vince currently injured, coming off poor seasons. Otto coming off injury, but showed good signs on Friday. Plenty of available rotations through here, Dangerfield, Douglas, Knights, Reilly, Symes, van Berlo, even Tambling.

Forwards: Good looking forward line, on paper at least. Will be awesome if it fires, but can be woeful, as we saw last year. Good to have Knights back. I see the Half Forwards basically as high midfielders (which is pretty much how they worked last year). Issue here is there isn't much option for rotation for Walker, Tippett and Porpous. Dangerfield could go deep, I suppose, and Vince has shown signs of forward prowess before, but taking those guys away hurts a mid where they are really needed.

Ruck: Pretty good here, thought Sloaney with his contested work and quick hands would be a valuable follower.

Int: Not a bad bench, biggest issue here is lack of 2R. We all know the issues with Tippett doing any significant time rucking, so IMO there needs to be a 2R here, rather than in the sub. Suggest McKernan/Maric/Moran in place of Symes. Based solely on Friday night, and need for extra forward line rotations, I'd go with McKernan for now, but if he picks up from where he left off last year, that would change quickly.

 

[Allefgib]

No kidding. I've tried a few times to get a best 22 and have given up! Just have a solid 30 players who could all play in the 22 come round 1.

Which is why team security concept needs to go.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Which is why team security concept needs to go.

Being honest, do you think it will?

I don't.