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That word, 'elite', with Stevie J
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A whole lot of magic.
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OP has failed manificently
I have alway said Stevie j is the most under rated player in the AFL he is the only play that can do what Gary Ablett does
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He's more important to Geelong than Selwood is.
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OP created thread saying why do people not rate SJ in the top echelon and he dominated. Not sure how OP has failed? He/she was not bagging Johnson..
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I think he is elite. I think the reason why he's not universally seen as elite is people look at his game against the Eagles, for example, and he has it 30+ times, yet goes at 65%, has 6 clangers and burnt the ball a lot.
But he's an incredible footballer, stronger than what you think, deceptively quick, has an incredible football brain and isn't afraid to get his hands dirty with tackles etc.
But he's an incredible footballer, stronger than what you think, deceptively quick, has an incredible football brain and isn't afraid to get his hands dirty with tackles etc.
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He does some dumb things but when he's on song he can be one of the most damaging players in the game, like Ablett he can rip a game to shreds in the space of 5 minutes.
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What's that got to do with anything? Have you looked at Swan recently?
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He came third in last years Brownlow (even though he wasn't eligible). Imagine if hadn't of missed those 4 games due to suspension, he might have even beat the great Gazza. 
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Don't think he's ever finished in the top five. Didn't even finish top 10 last year, though I'd like to think he would have been right in the mix in 2009 and last year, had it not been for injuries and multiple suspensions, respectively.
But I think the B&F thing is pretty reflective of how he is assessed, compared to Ablett, Pendlebury, Watson, Selwood and others. While he's undoubtedly been one of the best players in the league over the past two years, I just reckon it's that he's too much of a roller coaster. He has a tendency to infuriate with some of his brain farts, which those other players just don't possess. It's unusual for an elite midfielder to do so many undisciplined things, practically every game. Geelong supporters still say things like 'You take the good with the bad', when talking about Johnson and I can't think of any other midfielder who's anywhere near his level that would have their club's supporters say the same.
The Hawthorn game was a classic example. Clear BOG and got the 10 coaches' votes. And yet, he probably did half a dozen things that just defied belief (in a bad way). Without watching the replay, I actually thought today was one of his most disciplined, mistake-free performances that I can remember. And yet, it was really just a good game for him, nowhere near some of his best performances over the past couple of years.
Sttew
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Grossly underrating Selwood's ability to seriously influence games in the balance.
SJ is a champ but butchers the ball more than Selwood
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At least he showers!! I read an article where Pendelbury said he hates showering and often goes without for days...
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God I wish Collingwood had taken him.
If not for that medical report we'd have the undisputed best midfield in the comp.
Then again we could have had Pav too.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda...
If not for that medical report we'd have the undisputed best midfield in the comp.
Then again we could have had Pav too.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda...
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and Jono Brown
But then you wouldn't have got the Big Q Stick
Apparently we were thinking we'd snare Selwood too until Geelong swooped.
Pendles, Swan, Selwood and Johnson delivering into a forward line of Cloke, Pav and J Brown... I'm at half mast!
True though, all that would mean nothing without the 'Stick'.
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I made literally no comment on Selwood's ability to influence games in the balance. Nor Johnson's, for that matter.
Commentators certainly don't mind ramming the 'Stevie J' love down the viewers throats.
FFS read the OP's comments properly and engage your brain before running off at the mouth as per usual.
Sttew
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Literally? Yes. But you said, "Would put him ahead of Selwood just because he is more reliable as a forward" and I said Selwood's ability in crunch moments is > than Johnston's ability to switch forward. Just an opinion.
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Firmly entrenched in the elite group of footballers running around at the moment.
GAJ is clearly out in front of the rest of his peers, but Stevie J is in the group closest to him.
GAJ is clearly out in front of the rest of his peers, but Stevie J is in the group closest to him.
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