List Mgmt. The 2019 Trade and Free Agency Thread

[harry000]

Mmmm, but one averages 25 touches a game and the other averages 15. Obviously a bit more end result for their work for one of the players, there.

Thats why they will play different roles. Ed Langdon is a damaging winger who can run both ways (good numbers for both inside 50s and rebound 50s). Tomlinson is a "clean up when things go pear shaped" winger.

1. Turnover safety - he can push back and pick up a forward of any size or mid on transition if they have burnt their man off. He is rated elite for spoils and one percenters.
2. Defensive outlet - if the defence is under too much pressure he provides an outlet. He is a good mark and win contested ball when needed so he can collect that quick kick out of defence and then find a target with a short kick.

If he can aid with those two things which he already is doing for GWS he will improve our side.

If he can get his hands on the ball more and become more damaging forward of centre then it's a huge win.

Not to mention he can play anywhere on the ground (even ruck) if we have an injury.

 

[demondavey]

Why is the winger we've just recruited now playing in the middle? Such a Melbourne thing to do.

It’s the same thing mate

 

[TheCount]

Harley? Calves aren't up to running up and down the ground, just sit him in the forward line and lwt him do his thing.

Would do ... but doubt the club would.

 

[CWaffles]

Would do ... but doubt the club would.

Yep wouldn't cost us alot, we need to take a few chances. If we could get him on the ground he could be a real match winner.

 

[Cannon82]

It’s the same thing mate

Inside, outside, same same.

 

[Eternal Schism]

Hawks got away with highway robbery. Would have hoped for a bit more for Frost.

NFI why club isn't after Butler.

Boggles the mind. Comes from a successful program as well, could bring a bit more of Hardwick ethos to the side.

 

[Cannon82]

Thats why they will play different roles. Ed Langdon is a damaging winger who can run both ways (good numbers for both inside 50s and rebound 50s). Tomlinson is a "clean up when things go pear shaped" winger.

1. Turnover safety - he can push back and pick up a forward of any size or mid on transition if they have burnt their man off. He is rated elite for spoils and one percenters.
2. Defensive outlet - if the defence is under too much pressure he provides an outlet. He is a good mark and win contested ball when needed so he can collect that quick kick out of defence and then find a target with a short kick.

If he can aid with those two things which he already is doing for GWS he will improve our side.

If he can get his hands on the ball more and become more damaging forward of centre then it's a huge win.

Not to mention he can play anywhere on the ground (even ruck) if we have an injury.

What people think Tomlinson offers and what he'll actually do on match days are very likely a long way apart.

 

[demondavey]

Inside, outside, same same.

In this day and age a centre can be either

 

[demondavey]

Mahoney needs to sort the small forward issue out. Unless AVB and Hannan are genuinely fit then we are struggling for smaller to medium options.

Butler should be looked at, along with Gray. Also, anyone getting a feeling we might be trying something with Brad Hill? Fremantle not moving much with the Saints.

 

[Cannon82]

In this day and age a centre can be either

Right, well I think we'll be switching Brayshaw and Langdon when it comes to match-day.

 

[TheCount]

Also, anyone getting a feeling we might be trying something with Brad Hill? Fremantle not moving much with the Saints.

Can't afford his massive contract, JM said as much.

Nothing was asked about if we were planning on doing anything with Pick 3 tho, which feels like a missed opportunity.

Any update there Devastating Boris

 

[demondavey]

Right, well I think we'll be switching Brayshaw and Langdon when it comes to match-day.

And what will that do? The way I see it is if we can have Langdon and Tomlinson / Salem playing outside midfielders and Oliver & Viney playing purely inside then Brayshaw and Harmes can be hybrids.

 

[demondavey]

Can't afford his massive contract, JM said as much.

Nothing was asked about if we were planning on doing anything with Pick 3 tho, which feels like a missed opportunity.

Any update there Devastating Boris

Honestly think we need to find a way. I mean if the Saints can’t get it done where will he go? Hawthorn? We need to find a way if we can.

 

[schmuttt]

Hill is only leaving to go to the saints no one else will pay what they’re offering.

 

[Jordie_tackles]

Mahoney needs to sort the small forward issue out. Unless AVB and Hannan are genuinely fit then we are struggling for smaller to medium options.

Butler should be looked at, along with Gray. Also, anyone getting a feeling we might be trying something with Brad Hill? Fremantle not moving much with the Saints.

Or Spargo, Lockhart, Bedford and Chandler need to show a lot more.

 

[demondavey]

Or Spargo, Lockhart, Bedford and Chandler need to show a lot more.

We still need to recruit a gun small. Just to continue to add pressure on the rest of the list and build depth. Saints and Blues around Butler, we need to get in on that.

 

[demondavey]

Hill is only leaving to go to the saints no one else will pay what they’re offering.

Hawks?

 

[schmuttt]

Hawks?

isnt hawks style to pay that much

 

[markm106]

Hill is only leaving to go to the saints no one else will pay what they’re offering.

JM also said he wouldn’t get involved when the player has indicated where he wants to go. But yeah we ain’t paying 900k.

 

[Dark Avenger]

I did some digging

In 2014, we traded pick 23 ---> Frost, 40 and 53.
In 2019, we traded Frost, 42, 61 and 65~ ---> 33~ and 50

The ~ icons are approximate for 2020 picks.

So basically we kept Frost for 5 years and 70+ games, made him a better player, then gave him away to get roughly equal, if not less back than what we started with 5 years ago.

For some reason young players who have done nothing but can potentially be good are worth more than proven good players.

 

[Jordie_tackles]

We still need to recruit a gun small. Just to continue to add pressure on the rest of the list and build depth. Saints and Blues around Butler, we need to get in on that.

I agree, it is stunning that the majority of the fanbase can be calling out for this type of player and that the brains trust isn’t interested? Especially when some gray and butler should cost a bag of chips.

 

[Jordie_tackles]

For some reason young players who have done nothing but can potentially be good are worth more than proven good players.

Yep we are getting smashed for not offering this star defender a contract, he is offers good money by hawks and we get a future second with multiple 4ths going out?

 

[markm106]

The overall traded Frost and Langdon worked out well. Club backing in May and Lever getting on the park and why not with Burgess overseeing it. Also Tomlinson can go back so not like we have no options.

 

[schmuttt]

I’m fine with our deals today. I’m not fine with the small forward problem.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Can't afford his massive contract, JM said as much.

Nothing was asked about if we were planning on doing anything with Pick 3 tho, which feels like a missed opportunity.

Any update there Devastating Boris

So a split is still on the cards by the sounds.

Also was told by my mate at GWS. That JM’s interview smacked of someone who is watching something very intently and biding his time.