List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

[Keys]

Quick links

• Player contract status
• Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)
• Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Dates
• Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
• Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

List Spots Available
• 6 Main list
• 1 Rookie list

Available Draft Picks
• Main Draft - 12,26,72,77,87,92
• Rookie Draft - 3

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

I know Cal this Cal that but i don’t think we’re taking Reid if that’s the way draft falls. I think we’ll go Berry based on nothing.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

I have a strong suspicion that our draft hand will change. I’m not even going to speculate on who we’re taking. Happy to watch it unfold.

 

[noobermensch]

Apologies if someone posted this here already. I put together a draft guide, player profiles on the first round, then a dive into the deeper pool.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

I have a strong suspicion that our draft hand will change. I’m not even going to speculate on who we’re taking. Happy to watch it unfold.

If Allan, Lindsay and Reid are all gone before our pick, I'd be happy for us to split the pick.
Rather than using it on Hotton, Berry or Shanahan.

Hotton is very good player, but would be too much of a risk that early, especially with only one shot in the first round.
He is a proven contested ball winner, a strong mark, has plenty of x factor and can do some incredible things.
No better example of his abilities than his 32 disposal 4 goal game.


On the other hand IF Hotton is able to fully recover from his AFL with no ill effects, it might end up as a genuine bargain pick.
That being said, taking a punt on Hotton is still more palatable than drafting Berry or Shanahan with whatever pick 12 will end up being.

 

[squashface]

Keen for us to all get attached to Reid before Clarke live trades the pick for Liam Baker

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Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

's underpants.

 

[Coasters7]

noobermensch (with thanks) did a sensational package of his champs where he was the Vic Metro MVP. He’d be a very good get at 12 (15) IMO, decision making and skills are sublime, Pendleburyesque.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-draftee-highlights.1379835/post-84969465

The video of Ough directly below it is coincidentally from his BOG performance vs Calder maverick001 and anyone else that’s interested if we can do a deal with Essendon.

Where does the slow talk come from? Seems to have a decent burst of acceleration on him

 

[Dark Sharks]

This Murphy Reid talk has shades of Jaidyn Stephenson

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Jaidyn Stephenson

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

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Last 5

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13.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

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4.4

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

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4.3

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.2

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D

12.6

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K

8.0

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4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

sliding to our pick in 2017 all over again.

 

[eaglevision]

Where does the slow talk come from? Seems to have a decent burst of acceleration on him

He’s definitely not fast and didn’t do end of year testing which is a shame. I’ve said it before the game slows down around him with ball in hand, I can’t recall too many instances when his lack of speed has been costly but the question is does he fit into how McQualter wants the team to play?

Given the standard of our kicking and almost total lack of dynamic vision and unpredictability I think he’d be a good addition if available.

 

[eaglespremiers]

If Allan, Lindsay and Reid are all gone before our pick, I'd be happy for us to split the pick.

If they've all been taken there's a good chance Travaglia makes it to our pick in their stead. For me, that's a win.

Rather than using it on Hotton, Berry or Shanahan.

Look, I acknowledge that we don't need another key forward as a list need.
However, I've seen a lot of Shanahan this year (at least 12+ live games).
I got to chat to him and his mother for over an hour yesterday.
He's fairly reserved compared to some of the other draft prospects I've interacted with the last couple of years. Very happy to come west.
But, boy, on the field, there's something that gives me the feeling that he'll be a generational forward in the same mould as Josh Kennedy was.
He is 195cm, he takes the ball at its highest point, he crashes packs, his sinks goals from 50m out on the boundary. I think what makes sense as a selection from a positional point of view today may not stack up in retrospect in 5-7 years. I think Shanahan is far more bankable than a Hotton, Reid, Allan or Lindsay. I understand the impetus for us selecting one of them, however, by comparison, Shanahan has by far the highest ceiling.

 

[Coasters7]

He’s definitely not fast and didn’t do end of year testing which is a shame. I’ve said it before the game slows down around him with ball in hand, I can’t recall too many instances when his lack of speed has been costly but the question is does he fit into how McQualter wants the team to play?

Given the standard of our kicking and almost total lack of dynamic vision and unpredictability I think he’d be a good addition if available.

I know it’s just a highlights package but he burnt off a few guys in that video. Does he not have a top end speed? If not I don’t really mind because that initial burst is plenty for where we want him playing.

 

[mattyc75]

2 days and about 2h30 minutes until I can comment.

If it all plays out as it seems I would be a very happy man.

Take it you think we'll take knobel at some stage seeing aa trading for him didn't work?

On SM-S921B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[eaglevision]

I know it’s just a highlights package but he burnt off a few guys in that video. Does he not have a top end speed? If not I don’t really mind because that initial burst is plenty for where we want him playing.

No. He ran a 3 second 20m sprint at the start of the year and speed is not something that’s easy to teach. He’ll also look fast next to slow opponents which will obviously have a selection bias in his highlights. Noober also does videos where every touch/involvement is included so you may want to watch a few of those for a better picture of his speed but it’s certainly not his one wood.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Murphy seems the ideal cool head counterpart to the energy of Harley and Hewett. I think that trio has a lot of potential (I see Ginbey as a defender for the long term tbh). Throw in Hall as the more defensively-minded inside mid also.

I really hope he's there at our first.

 

[Obeanie1]

Im hoping we see some live trade for a late 1st or even earlier.

Our F1st for Dees pick 9. Tigers 10 on draft night. Add two ball getters now in this draft.

As long as we retain a 2025 1st and later picks we can do deals next year for clubs chasing points holding top 10 picks.

 

[Dark Sharks]

I know it’s just a highlights package but he burnt off a few guys in that video. Does he not have a top end speed? If not I don’t really mind because that initial burst is plenty for where we want him playing.

He doesn't really "burn" anyone off or create space via his pace. If he's already on the move he'll zip away from someone flat footed in a stoppage sure, but there's a distinct lack of explosiveness, which generally separates state level players like Trew for example, from AFL talent.

I actually low key get shades of Sheezel lite from Murphy. Neat, tidy skills, light frame without being an explosive athlete.

If we did manage to draft him, the chip scab role in defense doing the kick ins wouldn't be the worst idea in the world initially.

 

[eaglevision]

Murphy seems the ideal cool head counterpart to the energy of Harley and Hewett. I think that trio has a lot of potential (I see Ginbey as a defender for the long term tbh). Throw in Hall as the more defensively-minded inside mid also.

I really hope he's there at our first.

We could most certainly use his poise and delivery.

 

[Obeanie1]

If that is the case lazy Liam Ryan getting the sack

Any lazy forward will be getting the sack.

Time to set some new standards and get back to AFL levels.

 

[Keys]

If they've all been taken there's a good chance Travaglia makes it to our pick in their stead. For me, that's a win.

Look, I acknowledge that we don't need another key forward as a list need.
However, I've seen a lot of Shanahan this year (at least 12+ live games).
I got to chat to him and his mother for over an hour yesterday.
He's fairly reserved compared to some of the other draft prospects I've interacted with the last couple of years. Very happy to come west.
But, boy, on the field, there's something that gives me the feeling that he'll be a generational forward in the same mould as Josh Kennedy was.
He is 195cm, he takes the ball at its highest point, he crashes packs, his sinks goals from 50m out on the boundary. I think what makes sense as a selection from a positional point of view today may not stack up in retrospect in 5-7 years. I think Shanahan is far more bankable than a Hotton, Reid, Allan or Lindsay. I understand the impetus for us selecting one of them, however, by comparison, Shanahan has by far the highest ceiling.

I’d rather Reid over Shanahan due to list needs but you’ve made me feel better about him if it goes that way

Also explains the Richmond interest in him per Twomey’s phantom draft

 

[FootyOutlier]

Imagine Richmond, who shafted us for Liam Baker

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Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

, do one better and take the two players we want with their picks.

Anyways we should draft Reid.... Or maybe Shanahan as a tall midfielder

 

[Monocle]

He’s definitely not fast and didn’t do end of year testing which is a shame. I’ve said it before the game slows down around him with ball in hand, I can’t recall too many instances when his lack of speed has been costly but the question is does he fit into how McQualter wants the team to play?

Given the standard of our kicking and almost total lack of dynamic vision and unpredictability I think he’d be a good addition if available.

There are two type of footballing speed - Leg speed and Head speed.

Murphy has elite Head Speed , has quick reactions by hand and foot as he processes the game in real time faster than most.

It's why guys like Scott Pendlebury and Sam Mitchell where able to play the game for longer.

Murphy Reid is one of the very few that can process the game quicker than those around him, thats his point of difference.

The bonus is that he also has very good foot skills and clean hands.

As far as footy IQ goes he is the best in this draft cohort.

Remember good folk, leg speed , is worth SFA, if you don't know how to either use it or exploit it.... preferably both.

I doubt that Murphy Reid gets to our pick, however if he did, I would be super pissed if we didn't call his name out.

 

[eaglespremiers]

I’d rather Reid over Shanahan due to list needs but you’ve made me feel better about him if it goes that way

Also explains the Richmond interest in him per Twomey’s phantom draft

Video on Jobe will be out on Wednesday at this rate. About 60% through Tobie's video atm (hopefully this will be out tomorrow night).