List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

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Key Dates

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• Oct 17 to Nov 8: Pick swap window
• Nov 1 to Nov 8: Delisted free agency period
• Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
• Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

List Spots Available

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• 6 Main list
• 1 Rookie list

Current Draft Picks

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• Main Draft - 12,26,73,81,99
• Rookie Draft - 3

Recent News
• Luke Edwards delisted after deciding to step away from football due to ongoing concussion symptoms

 

[stallon]

Allen turned in too many passive games last year to be captain. Too many responses like "The leadership group needs to own this" and then we put in another 2 quarter effort next week. The talent is there, but he's not in the same class as Curnow, Cameron, Hogan, Lynch (healthy), Daniher, Larkey etc. He's had an almost career so far and probably won't age well with the knee issues.
And he can't get fit enough to push up to the wing on long leads like Waterman can and create space behind him for others. I'd rather we put time into Reid at 203 and Williams at 200 at FF and see what happens.

Could argue that theres is only so much he can do as a KPF to impact games that are lost in the midfield(almost all of our losses).
Most of those other KPFs you listed are playing in strong sides with good midfields delivering silver service, Allen has our rabble sending it forward. Its not really comparable at all

 

[Goomba1973]

That would be a HUGE call, I dont think we would push him out. Hes a WA local, Wce fan as a kid, captain of the club, etc. Would be a very bad look if he left via FA when we could have kept him as a restricted free agent. What sort of message does it send to the rest of the players, fans and prospective future players?

Our best bet was letting Waterman explore a trade this year, but that wasnt to be. Idk how we get Archer into the side unless we find a way to run with 4 talls in the forward line, or convert somebody to another role, like KPD or potentially Waterman plays further up the ground on a wing(if his 2024 form was a purple patch).

Jack Williams could swing back as a tall defender and have Waterman and Archer as our two talls in he forward line. Keep Waterman closer to goal .

 

[Monsterdarlz]

Wouldn’t be against trialling Archer and Jilliams as a 50/50 foward ruck split during games

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Could argue that theres is only so much he can do as a KPF to impact games that are lost in the midfield(almost all of our losses).
Most of those other KPFs you listed are playing in strong sides with good midfields delivering silver service, Allen has our rabble sending it forward. Its not really comparable at all

His defensive efforts were deplorable last year, given he wasn’t the only one, but as captain you expect better.

If he wasn’t captain, I think the club would entertain the idea and see how long we can leave the contract into the year, before making a decision. See where we are on the ladder, get an idea of compensation and see what Warner or other targets are doing.

 

[stallon]

His defensive efforts were deplorable last year, given he wasn’t the only one, but as captain you expect better.

If he wasn’t captain, I think the club would entertain the idea and see how long we can leave the contract into the year, before making a decision. See where we are on the ladder, get an idea of compensation and see what Warner or other targets are doing.

I agree with bolded, him being captain now makes it hard to do.
Id still be open to it though if Allen doesnt have an outstanding year and we can get a top 5 pick for him. Providing that we can trust our other 3 KPFs to perform still.
Waterman needs to back up 2024, J.Williams needs to keep improving, and Archer needs to really be pushing for game time.

 

[Mattman93]

Twomey doesn't really 'link' us with Shanahan or any of the players he names; he's asked about us, doesn't seem to have much of a firm idea, and just rattles off the handful of best players likely available around our pick.

Think we can disregard.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

I'm thinking we will draft only 4 players including Champion and sign up 2 SSP players.
We need to hit next year's draft hard along (including F/S & next gen academy players), with possibly more players traded in. So we need to be flexible in regards to list spots and not have extra players signed past 2025.

 

[Keys]

Set play should be Dewar to Cat A if there is even a remote chance Champion gets through to Cat B and select Max Knobel at pick 3 in the rookie draft.

That would leave 6 spots that could be split between the main list, Cat A rookies and DFA/SSP. I think 3 ND picks, another Cat A rookie and Carroll, Burgiel via the DFA/SSP is most likely at this stage.

Upgrading Dewar from Cat B to the rookie list is an unnecessary risk. If a bid comes for Champion then we will have achieved nothing other than cost ourselves a list spot for no other benefit

Leave Dewar as a Cat B

If no bid comes for Champion then select him with our last pick in the main draft

Or with our first pick in the rookie draft unless we are considering Knobel like you’ve suggested