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Hawks aren’t young though
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Hawks aren’t young though
We are the 2nd youngest team in the comp?
Just reckon you’re lacking any real stars compared to the youth of other teams.
Day, Weddle, Newcombe and then nothing but B graders.
Who’s the A grade talent I’ve missed? Dylan Moore probably.Worth re-visiting your thoughts here ?
Who’s the A grade talent I’ve missed?
Yeah well I look forward to your mid table mediocrity with those b gradersYou think we are beating all those teams without A-grade talent?
All the following are elite in their positions.
Sicily
Meek
Scrimshaw
D'Ambrosio
Day
Newcombe
Weddle
Hardwick
There there is:
Moore
Amon
Nash
Frost
Our last 3 months have been better than every team other than the Swans. And they are currently falling away.
Give us 9 behinds and we would be 3rd on the ladder right now.
Sam Mitchell is managing the list?Sam is creating a list profile based on the game style he wants them to execute. I suspect the focus of that profile speed over height. Most of the pieces are in place.
Some guys can have patches of 'A-Grade' form, but that's different to actually being an A-Grader.You think we are beating all those teams without A-grade talent?
All the following are elite in their positions.
Sicily
Meek
Scrimshaw
D'Ambrosio
Day
Newcombe
Weddle
Hardwick
There there is:
Moore
Amon
Nash
Frost
Our last 3 months have been better than every team other than the Swans. And they are currently falling away.
Give us 9 behinds and we would be 3rd on the ladder right now.
Long long way? Moore will likely break AA this year and is a definite A grader in his position, Newcombe was in the AA squad last year, if Day wasn't injured for the first 5-6 games would go close to the AA squad, Meek has been a top 3 ruckman this year based on impact and hit outs / HTA, d'ambrosio could go close to the AA squad...Some guys can have patches of 'A-Grade' form, but that's different to actually being an A-Grader.
Sometimes the stars align and guys look like superstars. Then suddenly they're not.
There's a long, long way to go before you can call any Hawthorn player other than Sicily an A-Grader.
Frost is like an A-Grader right now.Long long way? Moore will likely break AA this year and is a definite A grader in his position, Newcombe was in the AA squad last year, if Day wasn't injured for the first 5-6 games would go close to the AA squad, Meek has been a top 3 ruckman this year based on impact and hit outs / HTA, d'ambrosio could go close to the AA squad...
So you've gone from saying we're a long long way off having more A graders, to saying we have players who are playing at an A grade level but they need to prove themselves. Vastly different statements.Frost is like an A-Grader right now.
Most of them are!
They weren't during rounds 1-5 though. But they are now.
Will they be from rounds 19-22 (or however many rounds there are)?
Will they be A-Graders during finals?
Will they be A-Graders next year?
It's like the Des Headland tale. Was he an A-Grader? He was in Brisbane in that team. Was he at Freo? Nowhere near it.
Reality is that Hawthorn have slipped under the comp's guard. They've had bigger fish to fry rather than worrying about what lowly Hawthorn have been up to.
Meanwhile... Hawthorn are on fire and have punched a few in the face.
At some point, and it will likely be right now, opposition coaches will start putting in significant work on Hawthorn and what they're doing.
They'll get worked out. And when they do, we'll find out who the real A-Graders are.
Hawks don’t need stars to win premierships. Just ask the All Australian selectors who only gave us 2 spots in each of our premiership wins.
I think they're the same thing aren't they?So you've gone from saying we're a long long way off having more A graders, to saying we have players who are playing at an A grade level but they need to prove themselves. Vastly different statements.
On the weekend Adelaide, West Coast, GWS, Gold Coast, Richmond and North Melbourne all played younger teams. So 7th youngest.
You're still fairly young but nothing like as young as you were early in the year.
Yeah, look a lot of this is incorrect.Frost is like an A-Grader right now.
Most of them are!
They weren't during rounds 1-5 though. But they are now.
Will they be from rounds 19-22 (or however many rounds there are)?
Will they be A-Graders during finals?
Will they be A-Graders next year?
It's like the Des Headland tale. Was he an A-Grader? He was in Brisbane in that team. Was he at Freo? Nowhere near it.
Reality is that Hawthorn have slipped under the comp's guard. They've had bigger fish to fry rather than worrying about what lowly Hawthorn have been up to.
Meanwhile... Hawthorn are on fire and have punched a few in the face.
At some point, and it will likely be right now, opposition coaches will start putting in significant work on Hawthorn and what they're doing.
They'll get worked out. And when they do, we'll find out who the real A-Graders are.
They're the same thing?I think they're the same thing aren't they?
Being an A-Grade player versus playing at an A-Grade level in a team unit that is on fire are two different things.
I'd argue that most AFL players are capable of playing at an A-Grade level. That doesn't make them A-Graders.
Definitely is not a team of stars. 8 mid range players from other clubs, a number of mid season/rookie draft type players.
But I enjoy the culture that Mitchell is building. I am of a similar age to Mitchell and do not understand alot of the gestures/bonding stuff the players do on TikTok but I suppose its the modern version of a few beers after the game.
That's naive.The idea that clubs didn’t know anything about them, hadn’t planned for them or that their oppo analysts let them “get under their guard” is just blatant fantasy in a competition where any given club can win each week.