The Death Penalty for Chan

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We're not asking you to for sorry for Joko but yes, tying people to a tree and having them shot is definitely considered a major crime in pretty much everywhere on the planet. Glad you've acknowledged this.
Sentencing criminals to an inhumane death penalty is accepted as a non criminal activity in a handful of countries around the world, including Japan and the US.

Heroin smuggling is condemned and treated as a criminal act in just about every country on earth.

And I have no doubt the opinions of quite a few on here on an Aussie being sentenced to death, including ones that liked your post, if it was a convicted child sex offender or a convicted offender of any sort being sentenced to death in the US or Japan.

Good to see some posters on here using this incident to subtlely bash Indonesia for having a muslim society, well what can I say.
 
what's with putting them on crosses?

My theory is this has nothing to do with religion but it makes it almost certain that once the condemned are tied to the cross, they can't move. Even a few centimetres could be the difference between hitting the heart and missing and causing a drawn out death by drowning in one's own blood.
 
My theory is this has nothing to do with religion but it makes it almost certain that once the condemned are tied to the cross, they can't move. Even a few centimetres could be the difference between hitting the heart and missing and causing a drawn out death by drowning in one's own blood.

Sometimes they refuse to stand up. No young private in a firing squad really wants to shoot a coward curled up in ball on the ground
 
My theory is this has nothing to do with religion but it makes it almost certain that once the condemned are tied to the cross, they can't move. Even a few centimetres could be the difference between hitting the heart and missing and causing a drawn out death by drowning in one's own blood.
Yeah maybe - but couldnt they just tie their hands behind their back or something. Pretty strange symbolism from a primarily Muslim country.
 

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Sometimes they refuse to stand up. No young private in a firing squad really wants to shoot a coward curled up in ball on the ground

In that case they are normally strapped to a chair.

Options are apparently standing, sitting or kneeling.

Whatever way it is it's still barbaric.
 
Yeah maybe - but couldnt they just tie their hands behind their back or something. Pretty strange symbolism from a primarily Muslim country.
If they tie them to a crescent moon, it's an awkward shot.
 
Yeah maybe - but couldnt they just tie their hands behind their back or something. Pretty strange symbolism from a primarily Muslim country.
Not as strange as using an instrument of torture as a religious symbol in the first place.
 
Not as strange as using an instrument of torture as a religious symbol in the first place.
As Bill Hicks put it, “A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back he ever wants to see a ****ing cross? It's like going up to Jackie Onassis wearing a rifle pendant.”
 
it's time to move on and close this thread
You might be right. Personally, I think it will just fade into obscurity, as passion turns into indifference. I think it a good thing to have had this debate though. The death of other humans should be discussed seriously. It seems few opinions will have been changed as a result, but at least we now know what those opinions are.

That might be the purpose of this site.
 
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What made you think that?

just messing with ya
You might be right. Personally, I think it will just fade into obscurity, as passion turns to indifference. I think it a good thing to have had this debate though. The death of other humans should be discussed seriously. It seems few opinions will have been changed as a result, but at least we now know what those opinions are.

That might be the purpose of this site.

good point
 
Sentencing criminals to an inhumane death penalty is accepted as a non criminal activity in a handful of countries around the world, including Japan and the US.

Heroin smuggling is condemned and treated as a criminal act in just about every country on earth.

And I have no doubt the opinions of quite a few on here on an Aussie being sentenced to death, including ones that liked your post, if it was a convicted child sex offender or a convicted offender of any sort being sentenced to death in the US or Japan.

Good to see some posters on here using this incident to subtlely bash Indonesia for having a muslim society, well what can I say.
I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to say here.

I don't think they condemn drug smugglers to death in some states in the U.S. Not sure about Japan. What is the point? Homosexuality is considered a crime in quite a lot of places and is even punishable by death in some. That's wrong. End of story. Cultural practices can get effed if they are wrong. Why must they be respected? FGM is the same. Religious or cultural, if something is wrong, then it's wrong and people need to stand up against it.

I don't care if you're a child sex offender, murderer or drug smuggler, no one should be victim of (state-sanctioned) murder.
 
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