Grogg
Norm Smith Medallist
We need a rejig up forward. Opposing coaches aren't stupid, significant work will have been done on our structure, our major weaknesses will be exploited. obviously that is lack of ball retention.
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FWIW I don't think Shaw will end up at North but it is an interesting exercise to speculate on the value of players in not just a trade sense but a structure sense. I think for 2014 Tarrant is too important to trade out. If we try a new forward set up without him if it goes to shit then we don't have much to fall back on.I agree with you on this and to be honest, it's not what I want to happen.
However, and I've spouted a few times during the year, Collingwood are heavily into Robbie from Eddie down and we don't really have any other feasible options in luring Shaw without severely weakening ourselves in other key areas or affecting our draft. They won't accept our second rounder and I'd be livid if we handed them a first rounder if McDonald slides. I'm highly confident in any instance though that we will draft with a first round pick should we get one.
I believe if we are interested and Shaw selects us, if Collingwood asked for Robbie he will be in black and white stripes next year.
Here is the other thing to consider... should we target Shaw, knowing then that Atley and McDonald will spend more time in the middle, then again don't be surprised to see Ryan Bastinac's name pop up in trade week rags.
I personally would be happy to play 2 talls in the forward line, if we trade Tarrant.While having these guys you mention does make us more potent further up the field, how does it relate to our forward structure without another key position sized player? We lose Tarrant and we will need to find another key target from somewhere. Daw may be that guy, but not in 2014, unless we play Dish in a sacrificial, run all day up to the wings role. Not so sure that would be good for his feet.
Doesn't that point to the need for more skilled play though rather than a rejig of our forward set up? If you mean locking the ball in the forward 50 - 70 can't that be just as heavily influenced by the half forwards and mids pushing up into space as it can by one more smaller player in the F50?We need a rejig up forward. Opposing coaches aren't stupid, significant work will have been done on our structure, our major weaknesses will be exploited. obviously that is lack of ball retention.
FWIW I don't think Shaw will end up at North but it is an interesting exercise to speculate on the value of players in not just a trade sense but a structure sense. I think for 2014 Tarrant is too important to trade out. If we try a new forward set up without him if it goes to shit then we don't have much to fall back on.
Interesting re Basti. Would be be on the table before Gibson is out of the 22?
yes all of that can happen no doubt. given the midfield group has struggled with defensive positioning and has been acknowledged as a concern by the coaching staff, a rejig could provide an easing of pressure on that responsibility and at the same time give oppo coaches something to ponder.Doesn't that point to the need for more skilled play though rather than a rejig of our forward set up? If you mean locking the ball in the forward 50 - 70 can't that be just as heavily influenced by the half forwards and mids pushing up into space as it can by one more smaller player in the F50?
That's pretty interesting. I would have Bastinac closer to the untouchable category. His running and ability to crumb goals adds another dimension to our midfield group I think. The only other inside/outside goal-kicking mid we have is 28 year old Daniel Wells.In between, you find your trade bait (in the context of when you are hunting and not being hunted). They are your players that have suitable levels of skill to be wanted by other clubs but ones that are also replaceable/covered through depth squad. Slap bang on top of that list you have Tarrant and Bastinac.
I love how the same people who didn't want Martin now are asking for Heath Shaw.
One's a reknown rat packer with terrible onfield body language, the other is a young kid who loves to party.
Chapman, NDS, Luke & Garlett.
What else do we need?
If i once had Malthouse then Buckley as a coach id be pissed toIn Shaw's defence he usually only argues with Maxwell which is entirely understandable.
I would not give up Bastinac or Tarrant at all.
I'd prefer to get Docherty over Shaw. Shaw is a wank and also will be too expensive.
I'm warming to the idea of chapman but only just. NDS still a great get if we get him as a FA.
How about these ins
In: Docherty, NDS and Chapman
Out: Delaney and our 2nd or 3rd pick.
The Age reporting Collingwood will trade with GWS.
Adams for Shaw & exchange of draft picks.
bastinac and tarrant are going nowhere - god thank ..... some of the guys on here are not running the club.
Well I can tell yah right now that God didn't thank me for not running the club.bastinac and tarrant are going nowhere - god thank ..... some of the guys on here are not running the club.
He always has been a bit aloof and up himself.Well I can tell yah right now that God didn't thank me for not running the club.